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Being sued re:Delinquent Credit Account

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ERIN79

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Hello everyone and thanks for taking the time to read my post. To make a really long story short here goes:

In Nov 2000 my husband was layed off from his job. I could not pay on any of my bills, except my rent (600.00) and car payment (500.00 a month due to high interest rate; cannot refinance). Those were the two most important. Today I got a call from one of the creditors stating that they were going to file a suit on me in court on Tuesday for $1300.00. He was very rude and called me young and irresponsible. He also asked how I could pay my car payment and none of my other bills. He stated that he would make sure the judge knows that I am paying my car payment and nothing else.

My Question is: Can the judge order me to sell my car?

I am really worried and upset about this. I cannot obtain a new loan due to my credit now, and if I don't have a car I don't have a job. I want any and all feedback! Thanks

Erin
 


HomeGuru

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ERIN79 said:
Hello everyone and thanks for taking the time to read my post. To make a really long story short here goes:

In Nov 2000 my husband was layed off from his job. I could not pay on any of my bills, except my rent (600.00) and car payment (500.00 a month due to high interest rate; cannot refinance). Those were the two most important. Today I got a call from one of the creditors stating that they were going to file a suit on me in court on Tuesday for $1300.00. He was very rude and called me young and irresponsible. He also asked how I could pay my car payment and none of my other bills. He stated that he would make sure the judge knows that I am paying my car payment and nothing else.

My Question is: Can the judge order me to sell my car?

I am really worried and upset about this. I cannot obtain a new loan due to my credit now, and if I don't have a car I don't have a job. I want any and all feedback! Thanks

Erin

My response: Jeez, I guess you are young and irresponsible.
I know several people that have jobs but no car.
And you come here asking for help and you last words are, "I want" rather than please. You are acting rude just like the collector.
 
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ERIN79

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Geez....

Give me a break! That wasn't very nice of you to say. I am not irresponsible. This year has been really hard for me, and my family. I do regret buying my car but there isn't much I can do about it. If I were to sell it I would still have to make payments on the difference. It's a lose lose situation.
 
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karapeterson

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sounds like the last guy that posted was a bill collector.....or car less..I wouldn't pay much care to his ignorance.Advice to you get a lawyer or try debt consolidation.Bill collectors say whatever they can to do one thing honey..collect their money...I have had one tell me i needed to pay the bill over the phone for a boyfriends account...lol had to ask him what he was on or how stupid he thought I was.just shows you they will take anyones money...and go to any lengths to get what they want.You can also put an end to their calls ..once you tell them you feel their calls are of a harassing manner its a law they have to quit phoning you.I am not a lawyer..this isnt legal advice just some feedback from another civilian!and everyone has to prioritze sometimes to have a life..don't let the collector get you down he probably has far less of a life then you ,is in more debt then you,and makes pennies at a job he will get burnt out on sooner or later.Its no sin to get frustrated with bill collectors even Jesus did...hence the time in the bible when he threw them out of his fathers house of worship.cheer up and get organized to make some sort of payment plan!
 

JETX

Senior Member
Sounds like the forum is getting full of these 'feel good, gee I wish' responders.....

Erin79: neither of the responses you have gotten so far are correct or fully factual.

Your question was, "Can the judge order me to sell my car?"

The short answer is no. The judge can't ORDER you to do anything specific. But, here is what will very probably happen:

You have been 'threatened' with a lawsuit. Whether that actually happens or not is in the hands of the creditor. If the caller was actually the creditor, they CAN take legal action against you. However, if it was a 'debt collector', he generally can NOT take legal action against you (unless he is actually the owner or authorized to act by the 'true' creditor).

Now, lets assume that he has the right to sue you and does so. You will receive a notification of the lawsuit. Since you don't seem to deny the validity of the claim, you should at least show up in court to see what happens and to protect any rights that you might have. Lets assume that the creditor prevails and now has a judgment against you.

A judgment is not like an 'everyday debt', it has some special allowances that can be used to enforce payment. Though you don't tell us where this is, your 'location' says Indiana, so lets assume that is the laws that will apply.

Indiana (this is written from the Plaintiff's point of view):
"If you are the winning party, the judgment entered by the court is a legal determination that another person owes you a certain sum of money, and court costs.

Your judgment will be recorded (i.e., entered and indexed) in the judgment docket of this county. At the time your judgment is recorded it becomes a
lien on any real property owned by the debtor in this county now or in the future. For your judgment to be a lien on real property in another county in this state it must be recorded in that county. This is done by obtaining a certified copy of the judgment and delivering it, along with the necessary fee, to the Clerk of the county in question for registering in that Clerk's judgment docket. The judgment will then become a lien on the debtor's real property in that county. Once the judgment is recorded, the judgment lien exists for a period of ten (10) years. At the end of the ten year period from its entry, the lien against real property will expire. However, the lien can be extended for another ten year period by bringing an action on a judgement within the ten year statute of limitations found in Ind. Code 34-1-2-2(6) prior to the expiration of the lien.

Although the judgment lien expires after ten years as a general rule, the judgment itself may be enforced for up to twenty (20) years after its entry. The expiration of the lien on real property will prevent the judgment creditor from collecting his or her judgment through execution on real property. After the expiration of twenty years a judgment is deemed satisfied under Ind. Code 34-1-2-14. The presumption of satisfaction is not conclusive and can be rebutted by the judgment creditor.

Collecting the judgment is your responsibility. The length of time it will take to collect will depend upon both your diligence and the debtor's ability to pay. When the judgment is entered, payment may be ordered in full or by installments. In addition, the court may order that the payments be made to the clerk's office. If payments are made to the clerk's office, neither that office nor the court will monitor payments, but you may have to call the clerk's office to ask about payments. If payment is not made, you have several legal methods of collection.

Filing a Proceedings Supplemental is the first step. When Proceedings Supplemental is filed, the debtor is ordered to appear in court and answer questions under oath about his or her ability to pay based upon income, assets, liabilities, family size, etc. If you know that the debtor has a job and know the address of his or her employer, you may ask the clerk to issue Interrogatories to the employer when you file the Proceedings Supplemental.
The court can determine from the answers to the Interrogatories whether the debtor has wages which can be garnished.

At the hearing, you will have the opportunity to ask the debtor, or inform the court, about the debtor's ability to pay. At the conclusion of the hearing, the judge may order the following:

* the Defendant to pay the judgment in full or in installments (the installments may be modified at any time in the future);

* the Defendant to supply the court with current information regarding employment status and address;

* the garnishment of the debtor's earnings;

* execution against the debtor's personal property;

At any time in the future if the debtor fails to follow a court order or if you have reason to believe that the debtor's ability to pay has improved, you may ask that the debtor be ordered to come back to court. This can be done throughout the lifetime of the judgment.

If the debtor is served with notice of the hearing and does not attend, the court, at the winnings party's request, may issue a body attachment and
have the debtor arrested and held in jail until another date for the hearing can be scheduled.

If the debtor cannot be found to be served with the order to appear, the winning party can request that the hearing be continued for a period of time
to allow more time to find the debtor and to serve him or her with notice of the hearing."

So, Erin79, you can see that the process of enforcing a judgment can be a pretty serious affair against you in the future. And, lets not forget that the judgment will include attorney fees (if applicable), court costs PLUS interest until paid.
 

wildthing

Member
Hi Halket,

In your response you said "Your judgment will be recorded (i.e., entered and indexed) in the judgment docket of this county. At the time your judgment is recorded it becomes a lien on any real property owned by the debtor in this county now or in the future." Question: how do you go about enforcing that lien? I have a judgment against a person for $500 that I won over 2 years ago and even though I have stayed on top of this situation this person has managed to purchase and sell 4 different vehicles in the past 2 years without me seeing a dime. He is self employed as a carpender so garnishing his wages is futile.

PS I won't ask the omnibus date question this time:)
 

JETX

Senior Member
I had a real good answer all typed out for you and all.... then realized that you had posted your off-topic message ontop of someone elses message thread. Sorry, but I will respect Erin79's right and not promote your off-topic message.

Post your own and I might try to help... if I see it.

Also, please note.... the enforcement of judgments is state-specific and the processes may be very different for your state than they are for Indiana (as in Erin79's case).
 
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DH1972

Guest
First of all I would like to say that if your debt is not a secured one, the collection agency cannot take any property from you to secure that debt owed them. The only thing they can do is take you to court and get a judgement against you or have your wages garnished by up to 25%. But if you can prove that you cannot live on 75% of your income you can challenge the amt of garnishment to be allowed against you. Also, aks the collector for a copy of what they are collecting on. I recently had a collection company state I owed them $400 due to hospital and dr. bills not being paid. I tried telling them that it was an insurance issue and that some of them should have been paid on and thought that they had been paid. I then called my insurance company and got the bills taken care of. Guess what, now the collection agency is trying to garnish my wages on paid bills. This IS ILLEGAL and I'm getting ready to fight this. I also tried getting them to let me make 2 payments to pay the debt off and they would not accept it. I only owe them $200. So as far as collection companies go, they suck. They also tack on all that interest court fees etc. because their employees get a percentage of the money you pay as commission and the state allows this. That is a crock as well. Another issue to bring up is how the collector stated he would let the judge know you were paying on your rent and car. If you go to nolo.com and do some research on collections and what bills should be paid first, the ones you are paying now are the most important and have to be paid. He was only using a scare tactic against you. And, if you have a car and house or apartment and are paying those bills on one income when it was at one time a two income household, I feel that does show responsibility. People need to put themselves in the other persons shoes before speaking against them on how they are handling their business. You could of said the heck with it and let all of it go, but what for? You would only be hurting yourself and allowing others to do what this collection agency did. Also, if they have bills in their suit that have been paid on and are taken care of, they cannot sue you for that money, it is fraudulent and you can sue them, be awarded money for your time, pain and suffering and other monies up to the mat. of $1,000. It's all on nolo.com. Do some research on their and you can get more info for your state. Laws are different from state to state but not so much that some of it isn't the same across the board. Hope this was of some help.

Sincerely,
DH
 

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