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Booster seat use during visitation
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From FL's DOT site
All children 5 years of age or younger must be properly restrained no matter where they are sitting in the vehicle. Children through age 3 must be secured in a separate carrier or a vehicle manufacturer's integrated child safety seat. For children aged 4 through 5 years, a separate carrier, an integrated child safety seat, or a safety belt may be used. (FL Statute 316.613).
All children 5 years of age or younger must be properly restrained no matter where they are sitting in the vehicle. Children through age 3 must be secured in a separate carrier or a vehicle manufacturer's integrated child safety seat. For children aged 4 through 5 years, a separate carrier, an integrated child safety seat, or a safety belt may be used. (FL Statute 316.613).
Today in NY a law went into effect that my now 5 year old has to be put back into a car seat. I am PO'd. I think that sometimes these things get out of hand. He has been out of a car seat for a year and a half now. He's tall for his age but still is under the new requirement. He fits in the seat just fine and now this. Ridiculous.
stealth2
Under the Radar Member
Rushia said:
If it makes you feel any better, not too long ago (a couple of years, if I recall), we had a law go into effect that said 8 years AND 80 pounds needed to be in a booster. Now, my 11 yo doesn't hit 80 yet. She's tall, but thin. Wanna try and tell a 9/10yo that she now needs to sit in a booster? Me neither.
stealth2 said:
Oh gosh, I feel your pain. My son is Panamanian and the average size of the people is somewhat smaller than the US. He'll be 8 in June and he weighs a whopping 44 lbs and is all of 3'9 3/4". (He proudly states that 3/4 of an inch.) We're wondering if he's going to end up taking his driver's test at 16, in a booster seat or worse, going to the prom in one. LOL
Mom2J
boy
shhh.
It is 6 or 60lbs in Cali.
But how about these woes...
My daughter is 16 with a drivers permit..
Duck and cover..
I would rather have car seat woes, than nightmares
She can't find the milk if it is behind the WATER... how is she gonna find an on-ramp in the dark?!!??
Oh Woe is me...
shhh.
It is 6 or 60lbs in Cali.
But how about these woes...
My daughter is 16 with a drivers permit..
Duck and cover..
I would rather have car seat woes, than nightmares
She can't find the milk if it is behind the WATER... how is she gonna find an on-ramp in the dark?!!??
Oh Woe is me...
Okay, now I'm glad I live on the other side of the country. When my 13-year old that has the same "blindness" starts to drive, I'll send her to you, since you've already had experience with it. LOL.ENASNI said:shhh.
It is 6 or 60lbs in Cali.
But how about these woes...
My daughter is 16 with a drivers permit..
Duck and cover..
I would rather have car seat woes, than nightmares
She can't find the milk if it is behind the WATER... how is she gonna find an on-ramp in the dark?!!??
Oh Woe is me...
Mom2J
Well the good news is after many emails flying back and forth and much argument, Dad has agreed to use the two booster seats I am providing in his two cars. He won't, however, guarantee my son will be in a booster if he rides with anyone else (too much trouble, of course.)
To the person who said I'd be lucky if Florida will release their jurisidiction, you're right, it could be a problem, although my attorney said since we've been residents of TN for over two years so we'd have a good chance.
And to the person who said whether it's a law or not, it's stupid and irresponsible to not have a child properly restrained, THANK YOU! I was beginning to think I was the only sensible, responsible parent left on the planet. You wouldn't believe some of what I've heard from my son's father. Apparently no one uses a booster seat in his neighborhood because it's not law and they don't have to. The ignorance out there is just amazing. Or they just suffer from a serious case of invincibility...I know my son's father does.
The fact is motor vehicle accidents are the leading cause of death in 2 to 14 year olds according to the NHTSA. The booster seat law, which is the NHTSA's number one priority this year, is already law in 28 states. It was also passed in Florida, but Governor Bush vetoed it because he was afraid it would inconvenience the tourists or put a financial strain on the poor. I think most tourists and the poor would rather have a booster seat than a dead child. And if you think I'm just being dramatic, check out the statistics on www.boosterseat.gov.
I'd like to share a response to an email I sent to the Florida Traffic Safety Resource Center:
Thank you for your email. Each year we in the Child Passenger Safety family
work to get our laws improved. I think we are closer to getting the booster
seat law than we are the primary seat belt law. One thing that has helped us
is educating our law enforcement. Many of them have gone through the
National Highway Safety Administration's 4-Day CPS certification course. In
many of our rural areas, just getting parents to use the seat belt is a
first step. I'm happy that states like Tennessee have approved the law, as
have many other states. In my mind, if Governor Bush could see a toddler
using only the vehicle's lap/shoulder belt, he would get the picture. He
worries about our tourist industry, and if he only realized how many people
from other states actually travel with the child's booster seats. Secretary
Meneta visited Florida last year to push legislation for a primary seat belt
law. It had no effect on our law makers. We are not giving up. Kids who ride
in booster seats love them. I hope your child will always travel as safely
as possible no matter what state he travels to. Thanks again for your email.
Karen R. Hanawalt
Traffic Safety Liaison
Florida Traffic Safety Resource Center
1-863-467-9367
Fax: 1-863-467-7701
For those of you who just think a booster seat law is just another hassle, think again. A $20 booster seat could save your 4 to 8 year old some day. Be glad a government agency like the NHTSA is making it a priority. One of the NHTSA's goals is to get a federal child restraint law passed that includes booster seat use. We can only hope....at least those of us who want our children to be safe, even in the care of irresponsible, stupid ex's.
To the person who said I'd be lucky if Florida will release their jurisidiction, you're right, it could be a problem, although my attorney said since we've been residents of TN for over two years so we'd have a good chance.
And to the person who said whether it's a law or not, it's stupid and irresponsible to not have a child properly restrained, THANK YOU! I was beginning to think I was the only sensible, responsible parent left on the planet. You wouldn't believe some of what I've heard from my son's father. Apparently no one uses a booster seat in his neighborhood because it's not law and they don't have to. The ignorance out there is just amazing. Or they just suffer from a serious case of invincibility...I know my son's father does.
The fact is motor vehicle accidents are the leading cause of death in 2 to 14 year olds according to the NHTSA. The booster seat law, which is the NHTSA's number one priority this year, is already law in 28 states. It was also passed in Florida, but Governor Bush vetoed it because he was afraid it would inconvenience the tourists or put a financial strain on the poor. I think most tourists and the poor would rather have a booster seat than a dead child. And if you think I'm just being dramatic, check out the statistics on www.boosterseat.gov.
I'd like to share a response to an email I sent to the Florida Traffic Safety Resource Center:
Thank you for your email. Each year we in the Child Passenger Safety family
work to get our laws improved. I think we are closer to getting the booster
seat law than we are the primary seat belt law. One thing that has helped us
is educating our law enforcement. Many of them have gone through the
National Highway Safety Administration's 4-Day CPS certification course. In
many of our rural areas, just getting parents to use the seat belt is a
first step. I'm happy that states like Tennessee have approved the law, as
have many other states. In my mind, if Governor Bush could see a toddler
using only the vehicle's lap/shoulder belt, he would get the picture. He
worries about our tourist industry, and if he only realized how many people
from other states actually travel with the child's booster seats. Secretary
Meneta visited Florida last year to push legislation for a primary seat belt
law. It had no effect on our law makers. We are not giving up. Kids who ride
in booster seats love them. I hope your child will always travel as safely
as possible no matter what state he travels to. Thanks again for your email.
Karen R. Hanawalt
Traffic Safety Liaison
Florida Traffic Safety Resource Center
1-863-467-9367
Fax: 1-863-467-7701
For those of you who just think a booster seat law is just another hassle, think again. A $20 booster seat could save your 4 to 8 year old some day. Be glad a government agency like the NHTSA is making it a priority. One of the NHTSA's goals is to get a federal child restraint law passed that includes booster seat use. We can only hope....at least those of us who want our children to be safe, even in the care of irresponsible, stupid ex's.
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abstract99
Senior Member
semerick said:
Sorry, but I feel less safe with him in that stupid booster seat. My son is five but tall for his age, but falls under the height requirement. In that seat, he sits up too high. If I get into an accident, my son is going to fly forward out of that seat and into the back of the passenger seat or snap his neck backwards over his seat. But once again, this is the government telling me I don't know how to protect my own child.