It must be true... ignorance is bliss?!
Please note the sequence of responses in this thread and in "Is This a Leagle Crime" thread.
Since you're too f#@ckin' lazy, I'll help;
from: "Is This a Leagle Crime" thread
on 3/22/03 @ 8:59pm
hmmbrdzz wrote:
I know damn well IAAL or HG don't need me to say anything, but I've just got to say that I take real offense at the crap you just said above. You know what calatty? I regret there are people like you on this forum (or in this world) who would offer legal advice to pedophiles. I bet you fondle children. How's that?
I'm surprised you aren't out today marching beside a pedophile who's protesting the war. I've never gotten "ugly" with you, but the crap above combined with the fact I've seen you give advice to molesters -- well..... it just doesn't add up that you give legal advice to molesters and then attempt to examine someone's sex life here when their response is "right on target". And why would you regret having spent five minutes of your time on IAAL here when you are so flipping liberal that you take the time to help druggies and child molesters? You don't have to answer.
hmmbrdzz
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on 3/26/03 @ 2:14 am
AmosMoses wrote:
calatty
Good God man, you are an attorney...I would hope that the amount of knowledge that you possess in these matters legal dwarfs what any of us laymen can come up with. That is your bag, your livelihood, and hopefully you have picked up something along the way in your years practicing law. But, as a laymen, when I ask a question, I am asking it because I want input. The more legally informed and educated the person is answering the query the "better" the answer usually is, so naturally a practicing attorney should present the absolute best answers. However, in the absence of one of these sweet little morsels doled out so few and far between by Your Eminence, I appreciate any and every response I get from the mere mortals. I have to laugh when IAAL gives an answer and peppers it with whatever nasty comments he can come up with...but, he IS answering to the tune of 20,000 times AND he is an attorney! Post conviction relief? I still don't know what it is, and if IAAL tells me it is such and such "but only a moron trailer trash idiot would ask a question like that, too lazy to look it up", well, hell, I STILL appreciate it. So, hows about if when someone gives me ANY advice on matters that you didn't see fit to respond to, why don't you just leave it at that. It's a damned sight far better than no answer, I can assure you. 20,000 "nasty" posts from IAAL? "Clueless" replies from hmmbrdzz? Silence from you? I'll take the two former ANY day, with a double dose of smarta$% from IAAL, to go.
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from: "Calatty" thread
on 3/26/03 @ 2:32 am
AmosMoses wrote:
Well, calatty? You want one of us idiots to take this, or is this worthy of your genius? A little tidbit for the peasants, please? Maybe if he was a child molester who ran a stop sign.....
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Please note that prior to the response by hmmbrdzz on 03/22/03 @ 8:59 pm, calatty had NOT responded to or mentioned hmmbrdzz in either of these two threads. The battle was between IAAL and calatty and each were holding their own.
calatty did not mention you prior to any of your responses in either of these two threads.
You both made an implication that calatty is a pedophile. You both claim you to detest pedophiles and proclaim your love for children (from other posts). Yet both use the words "child molester" and "pedophile" as if you were saying "good morning."
Then you say:
Posted by AmosMoses (see previous post in this thread)
"When calatty, or anyone else, brings up a post of mine and ridicules another poster for answering me (Oh yes, the great and wonderful calatty did just that...course this is the same guy who SAID, not implied, that southern guys just lynch suspects), I feel like I have a right to answer, and I will. If you missed that post don't blame me." [BTW, I did miss that post. (not!) Was it before you or hummbrdzz attacked calatty? (no!)].
Now you pretend to be defending yourself and your fellow poster (hmmbrdzz) when you two attack calatty first.
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Here is the "child molester" post:
What is the name of your state? Ohio
Not sure what you would call this or where to go for help or to turn someone in. When my wife was 16 (she is now 30) her brother on several occasions (her brother was 22 at the time) came into my wife's bedroom completely naked with an erection. She asked him what are you doing and asked him to leave and he would not and kept standing there. This happened 2 or 3 more times. The last time he got in the bed with her and she literally had to kick him. She told her granparents whom she lived with at the time but they just covered it up and never did anything about it. The brother has continued to do this same thing to young children. He was doing this to his stepdaughter and the stepdaughter's grandmother called Children's Services on him and his wife covered it up or somehow lied to them. He was found laying completely naked next to some infants that his wife was babysitting. He is a sick individual and God only know how many others or the real truth of what he has done to others. What can we do if anything? Who can we call? What kind of punishment etc?
calatty response:
The problem is that the DA or police cannot do anything to him until they have evidence that he committed a crime, so until then there is no point in calling. It is unfortunate that there are women who are willing to tolerate and cover up sexual misconduct by their husbands, but there is nothing you can do about it.
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Please note that in the "child molester" post it does not ever say that the brother in law was fondling or had sexual intercourse with his "victims." In fact he begins his post with "Not sure what you would call this..." and it appears he dosen't know "... the real truth of what he has done..." "fly_mj" the originator of the post does not ever say he witnessed these acts. Please also read "fly_mj's" other posts. It appears this guy does not like his brother in law.
It is also noteworthy that calatty DOES NOT IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM condone such behaviour in his response.
Posted by apples&oranges:
"People are accused and more often than not, guilty of heinous crimes. Sometimes they're accused and are not guilty or at least there is no evidence to suggest they are guilty except heresay (remember the McMartin preschool case?). It appears to me that you jumped on the "bandwagon" not because of what you know is true but because of statements written by others on this board. If I am wrong, do right me. The proof is in the pudding. Look at the whole of calatty responses rather than a thread or two."
Posted by: AmosMoses
"What in the hell are you talking about?? You are downright babbling here, so I really don't know how to address this...you are earning your moniker here, that's for damned sure!! This sounds like you are replying to another thread! The only thing you are right about here is that I responded to a thread because of what someone else posted. Of course I post statements because of what others post. This is a forum. You do know that we are real people here, don't you? I mean, you do realize that your PC is not generating these responses don't you, and this is not the FreeAdvice virtual reality response game, don't you? And, please show me a post where I even hinted that everybody that was accused of something was guilty of it. I swear I don't even remember implying that, although evidently I did, because I swear I don't think even you would babble that much. Truly, you've lost me here."
apples&oranges rebuttal:
Sit close... read carefully... The paragraph about guilt & innocence and the McMartin preshool case was written to demonstrate the effects of hearsay or how people "jump on the bandwagon" based on gossip and not what they actually know is true. Which in my opinion is what you did when you wrote "...Maybe if he was a child molester who ran a stop sign....." Since you rather not waste your time researching the truth and you're unable or unwilling to put my "babble" into context...
I can only lead the sheep to the water, I can't make them drink. As I did with hmmdrdzz, I too with you plead: "uncle."
