child support payent of $225 mnth

[hexeliebe]

No I didn't momma and that's why I am getting a little peeved at all this. The expenses I gave for living with the family are just that. I used what he is paying for rent now as an example of what he would probably pay anyway.

But it really doesn't matter anyway since he never asked anything other than "Is this fair".

Why is everyone so intent today on making the simplest of questions into a diatribe of rocket science? Just answer the question the poster asked. "Is this fair?"

 

[haiku]

the OP has since edited it to 225 per week, all he has to do to find out how "fair" it is, is plug his numbers into his state calculator. www.supportguidelines.com.

All I was pointing out was a "simple" way to think about how much it worked out a month to support his kids, and whether or not that sounds right to house feed and clothe them.

as to the rest of his questions...sports activities normally come out of the support, but we don't know what kind of sports his kids play. (some people cannot afford hockey for a reason LOL)

My opinion on college is it should be a 3 way split as to what each person involved can afford. But thats just me.....

 

[stealth2]

Be as peeved as you want:

"Rent of $400 a MONTH (assuming you are still living with family) and your half would be $200. Groceries for small children is about $100 a WEEK. Your half would be $50."

You have your units f*cked up, hex. If rent is $400 a MONTH, his "half" would be $200 a MONTH or $50 a WEEK if we take a month to equal 4 weeks. Your total of $450 a WEEK is off by $150. Do you really want me to go through your math again?

 

[Whyte Noise]

O.K. let's see if this makes sense.

Rent of $400 a month (assuming you are still living with family) and your half would be $200. Groceries for small children is about $100 a week. Your half would be $50.

Clothes, toys, entertainment and the nice things of life cost approximately another $50 a week or your half $25.

So far we have $275 if you were still living together.

Now let's include utilities, phone, cable, taxes and other necessities just to live and you will be spending approximately $100 a week if still living together. Your half would be another $50.

Now we're at $325 a week.

Childcare for small children (which you did not mention) is approximately $125 per child a week (for a safe, qualified environment) so that's a total of $250 a week or, your half is $125.

Now we're at $450 a week.

Now let's compare. Living together with wife and kids you would be paying approximately $450 a week for everything. Living apart and insuring your children are safe and healthy $255 a week.

Is that fair? You decide.

Using hex's figures...

$400 a MONTH rent = $100 a WEEK, split in half = $50 a week per spouse.

Entertainment = $50 a week, split in half = $25 per week, per spouse.

Phone, cable, etc. = $100 a week, split in half = $50 per week, per spouse.

Childcare = $250 per week for 2 children, split in half = $125 per week per spouse.

NOW, let's add.... (And this is per spouse....)

$50/wk. for rent, plus
$50/wk. for groceries, plus
$25/wk. for "entertainment", plus
$50/wk. for phone, cable, etc., plus
$125/wk. childcare =
$300/week total if the man and his spouse were still together and splitting everything.

She wants $255 a week. On paper, it looks like he's getting a break of $45.

But lets be realistic here.... CS guidelines don't tell you to pay 50% of your income. Even in Georgia, where all they consider is the NCP's gross income a month, the highest percentage is 37% of gross income, and that's for 5 or more kids. In an income shares model, the percentage would probably be a bit lower than that.

So, is it fair? I dunno. Can't say without plugging the numbers in the state's calculator. But it seems a bit high to me based on a shared income guideline.

JMO

 

[hexeliebe]

Well the question still remains. IS IT FAIR? That is the only question on the table at the present time. And simply plugging ANY figures into a state calculator won't give the answer.

Because a calculator is only an approximation of the cost associated with the legal responsibility of a NCP, NOT a fairness determination.

So, anyone want to answer the question?

 

[haiku]

I'll give you the answer....

LIFE is not fair!!!! Divorce sure as hell isn't fair to anyone.

No one, CP or NCP, will get rich from the decision. Unless you are bruce Willis and Demi moore, BOTH sides must make adjustments in lifestyle.

There is no way possible for anyone, even within the "lifestyle you had while married" guidelines, to enjoy the lifestyle they formerly had without working harder, and making adjustments.

And the only measurement of "fair" you can have is the state guidelines.

 

[stealth2]

So, anyone want to answer the question?

We still don't know if there are arrears involved, which would up the %.

Anyway - I'm outta here. Dinner at the folks. See y'all manana.

 

[Whyte Noise]

I already answered it. I said, I don't know if it is.

The ONLY one that decide if it's "fair" or not is the OP.... based on what his own income is, what his spouses income is, and what their guidelines say. He can weigh all those factors and decide if $255 a week is fair to HIM.

Because to me and MY income, $255 a week is ludicrous. I don't even make that in a week.

 

[DChristian112]

255 is pretty high for someone who makes 32k a year. Like I said, that is 55% of his income.

Yes Hex, you screwed up your calculations. But no one is holding it against you!

I do not know what the state guidelines are for his state. And I was not referring to any state guidelines.
Is 255 a week fair? I would think your soon to be ex wife would think so. However, it is a realistic amount that a judge would order on? Nope.
My ex makes 30k a year, and I receive 135 a week. That's with two children, and 30% of is income. That 135 a week does not include the arrears he still owes either.

Good Luck Original poster!

 

[rjmundo]

RJMUNDO

fIRST THAKS FOR THE HEATED DEBATE - VERY INFORMATIVE....

WHAT SHE NOW WANTS IS 300 A WEEK CHILD SUPPORT + ALIMONY.

I WILL BE ON MY OWN WITH THE RENT OF 410 MNTH.

NOW IS THIS FAIR?

RJ

 

[Lil Miss Smarty Panties]

Holy Mother of God. Get a lawyer fast.

 

[Whyte Noise]

Ok... so lets refigure here...

$300 a week CS x 52 weeks = $15,600 a year in CS alone.

$410 a month rent x 12 months = $4,920

Then, let's figure a CONSERVATIVE amount of $500 a month alimony (and we all know it'll more than likely be MORE than that..) $500 x 12 = $6,000

So... we add all that together...
$15,600 in CS a year, plus
$4,920 in rent a year, plus
$6,000 alimony a year for a grand total of....
________
$26,520 a year.

Out of $32,000 a year? Leaving the man $5,480 a year to live on????

Excuse me???

Fair?? For HER, of course it will be.

I can answer that question now hex.... is what she wants fair??

HELL NO.

 

[DChristian112]

In my opinion, alimony should be outlawed. I think it is stupid. I think if you are going to get a divorce, let it be done with, why collect his money every month for your self??? Supporting the kids, I understand. But why must he support her as well???

Tell her to kiss you @ss, and that you will see her in court.

1200 a month plus 500 a month for her, and maybe higher??
NO WAY IN HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Good Luck to you!

 

[hexeliebe]

And I will agree but only to the point that what is fair and not fair depends on what our esteemed POSTER does to fight this. If he does nothing then yes, it's fair. You get what you ask for.

GET AN ATTORNEY NOW!!!!

 

[VeronicaGia]

Re: child support payent of $225 wk

What is the name of your state?
PA

My wife and I have agreed to seperate.We have two children ages 5 and 3. Here is the rundown...

225 a wk, which can increase if I make more money, kids sports activities would be split half, college down the road is split,

all this on a base of 32k. 410 mnth rent + gas. does this seem fair..

concerned father.

PA law does not require college support. If you agree to it now, you will be held to it later. IMHO, remove the college support clause. If you want to help your kids directly during college, do so. But don't get yourself into a court order for it.