Citation with multiple errors

[Just Blue]

Nope, I rarely travel out that way.

I so glad to hear that!! )

 

[jakejm79]

Ha, I have lived in the New England area and traveled extensively in it by car for work for many many years. While not much in that area, I have realized that much of small town New England is the same when it comes to policing and speed enforcement. That is why I know I wasn't doing 45+ in a 20 area, yes it was early in the morning and now one else is around, prime time for me to be singled out, for me to be doing 45 on radar my car's speedo would have been reading ~50, I know better than to do that through small town New England past the fire and police station, especially late at night when there are no other distractions, in fact if I tried to take that stretch of road (which is actually an elongated S bend with 2 near 90 degree curves) at 45-50 I would likely have been squealing tires and having a hard time controlling, I don't drive at 45 in a 30 let alone in a 20.

 

[Just Blue]

Ha, I have lived in the New England area and traveled extensively in it by car for work for many many years. While not much in that area, I have realized that much of small town New England is the same when it comes to policing and speed enforcement. That is why I know I wasn't doing 45+ in a 20 area, yes it was early in the morning and now one else is around, prime time for me to be singled out, for me to be doing 45 on radar my car's speedo would have been reading ~50, I know better than to do that through small town New England past the fire and police station, especially late at night when there are no other distractions, in fact if I tried to take that stretch of road (which is actually an elongated S bend with 2 near 90 degree curves) at 45-50 I would likely have been squealing tires and having a hard time controlling, I don't drive at 45 in a 30 let alone in a 20.

"Ha", I'll bite...What small town was this??

 

[HighwayMan]

if I tried to take that stretch of road (which is actually an elongated S bend with 2 near 90 degree curves) at 45-50 I would likely have been squealing tires and having a hard time controlling...

That's what they all say.

 

[jakejm79]

Maybe that is because there is some truth to it.

Also another thought regarding the date, my 20 days to respond goes by the date on the violation correct? So if that is predated (i.e. date was before the incident) it actually gives me less than 20 days to respond. I know in this case you will all say well 19 days is still more than enough time, etc. But what happens in a situation where the officer messed up the date by 10 days or 15 days - we don't deal in hypotheticals will be there answer I'm sure I will get. But if you get a ticket for running a stop sign, the argument of I came real close to stopping doesn't hold up, so why should I came real close to getting the date, speed, road right be allowed. Also 1 day might not seem like a huge deal, but what if I receive evidence on that one day that I wouldn't have had otherwise.

Another question, what right do I have to ask for the officer's schedule (or police dept schedule), if I can prove that he wasn't even working (or was elsewhere) at the date and time listed on the citation and he testifies that the information on the citation is true and correct then its pretty hard for him to claim that he either hasn't made a mistake (and is open to the possibility of making others) or that he just fat plain lied.

 

[Zigner]

Also another thought regarding the date...

Have you EVER written the prior year on something early in the new year? It's kind of the same thing. The officer probably started the shift before midnight and simply made a mistake. Mistakes are allowed and they are allowed to be corrected. You're so stuck on the little stuff.

 

[Mass_Shyster]

Another question, what right do I have to ask for the officer's schedule (or police dept schedule)

At a clerks hearing? None.

 

[jakejm79]

Have you EVER written the prior year on something early in the new year? It's kind of the same thing. The officer probably started the shift before midnight and simply made a mistake. Mistakes are allowed and they are allowed to be corrected. You're so stuck on the little stuff.

Yes I have and it was something important I would admit to my mistake and admit that I am prone to making numerous mistakes and suffer the consequences for making said mistakes. Also its not a mistake, its an error along with several other errors. If an error can be made in the date it can also be made with anything else written on the citation.

IMO the date that something happened is not the little stuff, its a pretty big thing, if you are going to accuse me of doing something at a certain time on a certain date at a certain place, you should get more than 1 out of 3 right.

Effectively what you are saying is an officer just needs to say they say said person speeding and not offer any specifics since we will just make those up, fill them in or correct them later on. You can't accuse someone of doing something if you can't specify when they did it.

If you are going to enforce the letter of the law, better make sure you get all the letters right.

 

[Zigner]

Best of luck to you.

 

[jakejm79]

At a clerks hearing? None.

Not at the hearing, before hand, I have the right to gather evidence, both to ascertain if I want to request a hearing and then to present at the hearing (or later court dates). I have the right to request the officer's training history with regards to radar devices, his/her notes on his/her half of the citation, etc, can I also request to see what hours he/she was working around the time the said offense too place?

 

[Zigner]

Not at the hearing, before hand, I have the right to gather evidence, both to ascertain if I want to request a hearing and then to present at the hearing (or later court dates). I have the right to request the officer's training history with regards to radar devices, his/her notes on his/her half of the citation, etc, can I also request to see what hours he/she was working around the time the said offense too place?

No...just no.

 

[jakejm79]

No...just no.

And what information are you basing that answer on, just out of curiosity?

 

[Zigner]

And what information are you basing that answer on, just out of curiosity?

Asked and answered. You know, you really should see a local attorney. This (or any) forum cannot help you.

 

[jakejm79]

A forum titled FreeAdvice, with a subforum specifically dealing with speeding violations, can't help me get answers and advice about deal with a speeding citation? Really?

If you don't have the knowledge to answer or feel like you don't want to provide any information to back up your answer then no need to really answer at all. Everyone is entitled to ask why or why not.

 

[Zigner]

A forum titled FreeAdvice, with a subforum specifically dealing with speeding violations, can't help me get answers and advice about deal with a speeding citation? Really?

If you don't have the knowledge to answer or feel like you don't want to provide any information to back up your answer then no need to really answer at all. Everyone is entitled to ask why or why not.

The problem is you're only here to hear what you want to hear here (hear hear!)