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[penncrew]

What is the name of your state?What is the name of your state? texas.. neice at 14 had a baby, her mom was planing to move here with them, but neice had other plans, and handed the baby over to the father ,they can not move here now because he will not give her back (the baby), police were called and told her mom that because there isent any custody that he
(father of baby) can do what he wants. now this is where im a bit confussed, I was under the impressiom that if you give birth to a baby the mother has automatic (sp) rights to the baby.I told her to call C.P.S.because he is using the baby to stop them from moving here( yes he has told her if you move you will never see the baby again) no helpfrom c.p.s. as far as I know.I told her to go to court and file for temporary custody to get the baby back,but shes not sure how or where (as in family court? )or cost, any help would be great .thank you :

 

[VeronicaGia]

What is the name of your state?What is the name of your state? texas.. neice at 14 had a baby, her mom was planing to move here with them, but neice had other plans, and handed the baby over to the father ,they can not move here now because he will not give her back (the baby), police were called and told her mom that because there isent any custody that he
(father of baby) can do what he wants. now this is where im a bit confussed, I was under the impressiom that if you give birth to a baby the mother has automatic (sp) rights to the baby.I told her to call C.P.S.because he is using the baby to stop them from moving here( yes he has told her if you move you will never see the baby again) no helpfrom c.p.s. as far as I know.I told her to go to court and file for temporary custody to get the baby back,but shes not sure how or where (as in family court? )or cost, any help would be great .thank you :

First off, why in the heck would you tell her to call CPS? Is the child abused or neglected? Why are you abusing this system created to protect children? All it does is deter the workers from children who ARE ABUSED!

Second, the police cannot help. This is a civil matter, so stop wasting their time too.

Finally, nothing is stopping her from moving. She simply will have to move without the child until this is taken care of. How long has dad had custody of this child?

 

[penncrew]

confused

to all who read my post. Im sorry that I upset and or made some mad at me all I was doing is asking for help , the baby is 4 monthd old and yes she is being
neglected , I wasent trying to tell her what to do I was only trying to find her help because she asked me too, I dont know how to help her or her daughter I wasent trying to waste anyones time. (police).I wasent even trying to keep cps from real abused and neglected cases,I was only telling here to call because she has no where else to turn.And we dont know what to do. Again I am sorry that I upset and /or made some mad at me thank you

 

[stealth2]

The only thing she can do now is take it to court. A lawyer will likely be looking for $1500-2000 up front as a retainer, and anywhere from $150-300/hour thereafter. A 14 yo is going to have trouble scraping up that sort of money, so family's going to have to pony up. 'Cause she's certainly not going to be able to represent herself.

 

[nextwife]

The child is the child of BOTH parents, once paternity is legally established. He has the same right to custody that she does. She can file for custody or shared custody. He does have the right to contest having the child moved out of the area. A judge will ultimately decide unless they together can agree to something that a judge will sign off on.

 

[stealth2]

Don't mind Veronica, she's just bitter.

And you're a newbie with 6 posts, so why should anyone give you any credibility?

 

[penncrew]

cnfused/thank you all

tx,

thank you all for your advice, my2cents the boy is 15 years old , he has been with my neice for a while and they both admited he was the father,and dna test
shows he is too.. the parents to my neice well long story short, my brother died in a horrible truck accident may of 2003 sis in law has been having a very hard time ( there is also a 11 year old son) and her daughter got pregent had baby .
she wanted to move here so my husband and I could help them out. and then the boy ( babys father) wont give back the baby.I dont know what else to say and do. She is asking me, inturn Im asking for help in here.Also they dont have money for a lawyer, nor do we,they would have been comming to a full house already ( 3 teens here) not much else there is to do then.got to figure somthing out.....thank you,.thank you all so very much .

 

[stealth2]

Gee, stealth2...awfully defensive of ol VeronicaGia. Is that because it's you??? Is that so you can argue both sides of the fence depending on your mood?

Nope, I'm not. And I apologized to you on the other thread. But you're jumping her for no reason.

 

[stealth2]

I really don't think she's going to get far without a lawyer. She could try calling the state bar to see if there's anyone who hasn't yet completed their pro bono time. If there's a law school nearby, they sometimes have law clinics to give the students practice. But I don't see how a 14 yo is going to be able to represent herself.

 

[LdiJ]

I really don't think she's going to get far without a lawyer. She could try calling the state bar to see if there's anyone who hasn't yet completed their pro bono time. If there's a law school nearby, they sometimes have law clinics to give the students practice. But I don't see how a 14 yo is going to be able to represent herself.

It sounds like she might qualify for legal aid.

 

[VeronicaGia]

Don't mind Veronica, she's just bitter.

How old is the Dad? What proof is there he is the father? What's up with your neices parents? Sounds to me that this child needs to be with a RESPONSIBLE adult, do you know of any?

Did dingbat redhead get a new handle or is her evil twin here now too?

It amazes me how people will help women do what this young man did and think nothing of it. Yet when the men do it, we need to call the police, CPS and claim abuse. Sorry, I'm not buying it.

Sounds like dad established paternity through a DNA test. Could be an uphill battle for mom, dad and baby. Too bad no one thought about adoption.

 

[nextwife]

You mean having two kids who aren't even old enough to be able to drive as parents may NOT be in a childs best interest? What a thought.

Why did it never occur to anyone that the father also had a right to be involved in raising his child? When there are two parents who wish to be involved, it is no longer unusual for a court to limit move-aways by the CP.

 

[penncrew]

just my opinion

tx Just want to say thank you to all who gave me advice .

to the others all I can say is that this is not a good place for the baby (they live about 2 hours from me) , I think that if a father can raise his children, with out a mom."God Bless" him , as a matter of fact there are 2 fathers in my neighboor who are doing that,there is no mother in either family, I help them when they ask cause girls can be a handfull .I know I have 4., 1 thats already married 3 teens at home and 6 month grandson. But this is a kid that is always in trouble and in and out of jail. yes he runs the streets and thinks he knows everthing,what teen dosent , but if I had the time to tell you everthing about this kid and what his probation even the police has informed us about, I think you might understand why we're asking for help , yes adoption
was concered but my neice realy wanted to keep the baby,and her mother agreed, with there loss I can see why.she had the baby gave it to him for a weekend and now he wont give her back, how sad when they have tryed to do everthing and to think in the little time he has had the baby(about a week now) she has been in the ER 4 times. because hes not feeding her enough,keeping her clean , ect....
we all have gotten call from the nurse/ doctor, but yet still we or they can get no help ,And I realy just came in here for advice,, not to get my head chewd off or my family to be cut down.or to be addressed as dumb with some of the remarks I read.
So again to all that gave me advice I thank you from my heart I will try legal aid and look into that pro bono(sp) lawyer thing. to others that were more than wiling to judge before asking more have a good life... thanks again

 

[VeronicaGia]

tx Just want to say thank you to all who gave me advice .

to the others all I can say is that this is not a good place for the baby (they live about 2 hours from me) , I think that if a father can raise his children, with out a mom."God Bless" him , as a matter of fact there are 2 fathers in my neighboor who are doing that,there is no mother in either family, I help them when they ask cause girls can be a handfull .I know I have 4., 1 thats already married 3 teens at home and 6 month grandson. But this is a kid that is always in trouble and in and out of jail. yes he runs the streets and thinks he knows everthing,what teen dosent , but if I had the time to tell you everthing about this kid and what his probation even the police has informed us about, I think you might understand why we're asking for help , yes adoption
was concered but my neice realy wanted to keep the baby,and her mother agreed, with there loss I can see why.she had the baby gave it to him for a weekend and now he wont give her back, how sad when they have tryed to do everthing and to think in the little time he has had the baby(about a week now) she has been in the ER 4 times. because hes not feeding her enough,keeping her clean , ect....
we all have gotten call from the nurse/ doctor, but yet still we or they can get no help ,And I realy just came in here for advice,, not to get my head chewd off or my family to be cut down.or to be addressed as dumb with some of the remarks I read.
So again to all that gave me advice I thank you from my heart I will try legal aid and look into that pro bono(sp) lawyer thing. to others that were more than wiling to judge before asking more have a good life... thanks again

You originally said " told her to call C.P.S.because he is using the baby to stop them from moving here."

Now you're saying the child has been in the ER 4 times, he's not feeding her, not keeping her clean, etc. So which is it? I got on your case for calling CPS for absolutely no reason, then finally you come up with a reason after a few days and several posts.

Forgive my being cynical, but those of us who have been here a while have seen this time and again. Someone wants to get the child away from the other parent and they really have no reason. Then all of the sudden, after several posts and arguments, the person claims the child is abused, they are abused, the person is a drug addict, the person has been accused of a crime, etc. This is information that needs to be put into the FIRST POST, otherwise, those of us who have been here a while simply won't believe it.

Can you blame us? After reading literally thousands of posts (and the lawyers here who meet thousands of people), when someone doesn't get what they want, all of the sudden it's because of abuse, domestic violence, whatever. If that was the case, it would have been brought up in the first place. So sorry for not believing you, but I don't. You took way too long to bring up his abuse of the child.

 

[prettyredhead]

Hello. Not my evil twin VEeeeeronica Mean thought there should be two of me.
Listen this child has just as much rights to her child as the father. This is what happens when you try to ban contraceptives in schools. Are the moral few proud? Kids like sex, it gives them some power over their lives where parents fail. Another lovely side effect of lack of apathy for Americas children. They are all OUR children.
Well, you should immediately file for custody, tell them what has happened. This boy cannot steal your baby. He can fight you for custody as well. Bad bad move letting his family have the baby. She is 14 for christsakes. I was playing with Barbies still. But this child plays with boys.
Well, a baby is at stake. You must prepare for a custody battle. Or "kid-nap" the baby before he gains custody. Since no one has custody, it isnt punishable, technically. You are still a minor, they dont send 14 year olds to SingSing, dont worry.
Get your baby back, your youth is over .