Could I be Hispanic?

[beautifuldiz]

but I heard that employers must have a certain number of minorities on their payroll.

There is no truth to this whatsoever. There is no such rule, and identifying yourself as Hispanic does not give you any advantage whatsoever in hiring.

Now, if you still want to identify yourself as Hispanic, feel free. But what you have heard is wrong.

Who are you talking to? That is my statement, but I am not the OP. And you are wrong, it's called an affirmative action program.

 

[beautifuldiz]

Check out affirmative action at the U.S. Department of Labor website

U.S. Department of Labor - Office of Federal Contract Compliance Programs (OFCCP) - Facts on Executive Order 11246 — Affirmative Action

 

[cbg]

Affirmative action does NOT state that employers must have a particular percentage of minority employees or give preference to minority employees. And not all employers are subject to affirmative action programs.

From your own cut and paste:

Q: Can the Laboratory consider race, ethnicity, or sex in employment practices such as hiring, training, promotion, or compensation?
A: No. Consideration of race, ethnicity, or sex in any employment practice is not permitted under Laboratory policy in compliance with nondiscrimination laws.

Next time you answer a post when you don't know what you're talking about, try not to look as much like an idiot as you just did.

 

[beautifuldiz]

Affirmative action does NOT state that employers must have a particular percentage of minority employees or give preference to minority employees. And not all employers are subject to affirmative action programs.

From your own cut and paste:

Q: Can the Laboratory consider race, ethnicity, or sex in employment practices such as hiring, training, promotion, or compensation?
A: No. Consideration of race, ethnicity, or sex in any employment practice is not permitted under Laboratory policy in compliance with nondiscrimination laws.

Next time you answer a post when you don't know what you're talking about, try not to look as much like an idiot as you just did.

Q: Generally, what does an affirmative action program contain?
A: An affirmative action program contains quantitative analyses designed to evaluate the composition of the Laboratory workforce and compare it to the composition of the relevant external labor pools; action-oriented programs with specific practical steps to address underutilization of minorities and women (if women and minorities are not being employed at a rate to be expected given their availability in the relevant external labor pools); internal auditing and reporting systems to measure the Laboratory’s progress in hiring minorities and women; and mechanisms to monitor the Laboratory’s employment decisions in order to evaluate the impact of those decisions on minorities and women.

Seriously, read the whole thing. They say they don't hire people just because they are a minority, because that would be discriminatory which would contradict their entire goal. They evaluate their progress in getting a proportionate number of minorities and women in their workforce. Who's the idiot now?

 

[beautifuldiz]

but I heard that employers must have a certain number of minorities on their payroll.

There is no truth to this whatsoever. There is no such rule, and identifying yourself as Hispanic does not give you any advantage whatsoever in hiring.

Now, if you still want to identify yourself as Hispanic, feel free. But what you have heard is wrong.

Just admit it cbg. You were wrong. There is truth to it!

 

[beautifuldiz]

Affirmative action does NOT state that employers must have a particular percentage of minority employees or give preference to minority employees. And not all employers are subject to affirmative action programs.

From your own cut and paste:

Q: Can the Laboratory consider race, ethnicity, or sex in employment practices such as hiring, training, promotion, or compensation?
A: No. Consideration of race, ethnicity, or sex in any employment practice is not permitted under Laboratory policy in compliance with nondiscrimination laws.

Next time you answer a post when you don't know what you're talking about, try not to look as much like an idiot as you just did.

Take your own advice.

 

[cbg]

I have been working in HR for 30 years, including working with Affirmative Action plans. AA plans, which do not apply to all employers (what you have posted is not a law, but one company's AA policy), do not require employers to hire people simply because they are minorities or to have a certain percentage of minority employees. So no, there is no truth to the statement under discussion.

Perhaps you'd like to provide your qualifications to discuss employment law?

I am not wrong. Particularly about your being an idiot.

 

[Banned_Princess]

Take your own advice.

You really have to cut the garbage.


All those long windy worthless posts that have no cites, all of your multiple postings that still have no cites, cut it out. Please, we are not interested in your baseless dribble.

Affirmative action is the process of a business or governmental agency in which it gives special rights of hiring or advancement to ethnic minorities to make up for past discrimination against that minority. Affirmative action has been the subject of debate, with opponents claiming that it produces reverse discrimination against Causcasians. Affirmative action programs are governed by a number of overlapping laws. A common principle is that whether for admissions or employment, affirmative action programs such as targeted recruitment and goals are encouraged to remedy past effects of discrimination; quotas are disfavored. Affirmative action in American employment law has evolved through a series of governmental proclamations, court decrees, and voluntary programs instigated by employers in the private sector. Private employers who receive no public funding are not required to adopt affimative action policies. Affirmative action policies are enforced by the entities adopting them if they are voluntary, while affirmative action policies required by government mandates can be enforced through the legal system.

Affirmative action policies vary. The following is an example of a university's affirmative action policy: "... is committed to ensuring that all educational programs and personnel actions including application, hiring, promotion, compensation, benefits, transfer, layoffs, training, tuition assistance, and social and recreational programs are administered without regard to race, color, sex (except where sex is a bona fide occupational qualification), sexual orientation, religion, national or ethnic origin, age (except where age is a bona fide occupational qualification), disability, or status as a disabled veteran or veteran of the Vietnam Era. The University's policy is applicable to faculty and other employees, applicants for faculty positions and other employment, and applicants to educational programs and activities. This policy is fundamental to the effective functioning of the University as an institution of teaching, scholarship, and public service

Affirmative action refers to concrete steps that are taken not only to eliminate discrimination—whether in employment, education, or contracting—but also to attempt to redress the effects of past discrimination. The underlying motive for affirmative action is the Constitutional principle of equal opportunity, which holds that all persons have the right to equal access to self-development. In other words, persons with equal abilities should have equal opportunities

Now that is the proper way to say you are worng and an idi and you can find the full definition at Affirmative Action Law & Legal Definition

 

[racer72]

Does it really matter in the eyes of the government? I recently filled out a pre census questionaire and under race, the options were:

() White/Hispanic
() Black
() Asian
() Pacific Islander
() Other

 

[Banned_Princess]

U.S. Department of Labor - Office of Federal Contract Compliance Programs (OFCCP) - Facts on Executive Order 11246 — Affirmative Action

And this only applies to government agencies, and government contractors. not private businesses, or joe public. Public or private businesses that are not connected financially with the government are not required to adopt any affirmative action policies.

Why don't you try to actually read what you are recklessly copy and pasting.