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Custody of grandchild - possible without a fight?

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InnaPickle

Junior Member
Thanks for your insight Shel77. My last post was just a general statement, not directed at anyone in particular. Unfortunately we cannot afford boot camps and college classes. We are struggling now as it is to keep our heads above water. If the baby were not in the picture, this would be a much simpler decision. The 18 would leave in a month, and 17 in a year. Period. Thanks so much, and the best of luck to you as well! :)
 


stealth2

Under the Radar Member
Ditto what Shel said. And I do have a teen.

I don't see you being able to prove (18yo) Mom's unfit.
 

LdiJ

Senior Member
IrishLady47 said:
If your daughter is not taking care of the baby, you need to file a report with CPS, NOW!! This is a way of documenting she is unfit. Depending of the results of their investigation, they may think you should file for temporary guardianship of the baby. Or they may think foster care is more appropriate at this time. If they feel your daughter is unfit or neglectful of the child, they usually put the parent on a plan/counseling to prove fitness to care for the child.

Your daughter needs to face up to her responsibilities, the biggest was choosing to be a mother. If she can't do that or become capable w/in a short timeframe (like 1 year), the baby should be adopted. You taking over care of the baby is not going to help, you just enabling her irresponsibility. Be honest w/yourself, you are already having trouble w/2 out of 4 kids. Are you really capable of raising another? Maybe for the next 18 yrs?

Forget your pride (I'M THE GRANDPA) or your guilt (IT'S MY FAMILY DUTY). And, selfishness (BUT I LOVE THE BABY & WOULD MISS HIM). What is really the best chance of this baby having a good shot at life? He needs a parent/parents who will take care of him. So either Mom gets her act together quickly or the child should be taken away from her. He shouldn't suffer.

Best of luck!!

NO NO NO She can't call CPS. The baby is living in HER home. If CPS agrees that the baby is being neglected the baby will go STRAIGHT to foster care.
 

sroutlaw

Member
Honestly? (And yes, I am mom to FOUR daughters.) Tough love. I would have kicked her out at the beginning of pregnancy and let her live with her choice. There are many many homes for unwed mamas that probably would have done her a great deal of good - she very likely would have placed her child for adoption or would have gotten a GED and some job training skills as often kids tend to behave better for people other than their parents. At this point it is harder because baby is a reality and you are obviously attached as any grandparent would be, but also overattached because you are acting as the other parent de facto, even though you aren't responsible or entitled to those rights. I think if I were in your shoes, and I have really thought about this because my own parents went through this with my sister, TWICE - I think I would try to help her find a job and low income housing. Tough love but with a bit of parental guidance. Offer her two options : one, you will kick her and child out at the end of the month, period, or two, she will get her GED and a job within ninety days and will move out in that same time period. No other options.
You won't get the baby, Grandma. I know you love the baby and somewhere deep down you are replacing your daughter with the sweet and innocent and easier to love baby, but the baby is not yours. It belongs to your child. Keep that perspective in every action you take. When you see your daughter taking these naps (believe it or not, my sis did this as well), pour cold water on your daughter. When your daughter stays on the phone instead of taking care of her child, remove all phones from the house. Let your 17 year old see what happens every time, as this may serve an important lesson to the little madam. When your daughter wants to "go out" leave the house with all the kids, every time. Take all keys, so she has no way to go. This seems harsh, but this little girl, your child, has not been raised totally. It is time to take her off the t**, but you don't replace her with another child so that you don't have to feel the guilt. You continue to raise your child, so she can raise HERS.
Best luck, believe it or not my family has walked right where you are. Three years later my sister and her two children are thriving. She is a loving mother, not perfect, but so much better and more mature than she was. She lives in a small (300 sq ft max) house my dad built on the back of their small property, with both of her kids. The cost of building that small house was much less than any lawsuit, and now my sister can and must parent her children. Your daughter must be forced into the same thing, or you can kiss grandbaby goodbye to foster care.
Steph
 

InnaPickle

Junior Member
Update

Thanks for eveyone's help - my 18 year old DID get her sh*t togather and is now attending all her classes and doing MUCH better (I guess the threat of kicking her out actually worked - go figure). We are very proud of her, and the baby is doing great!


The 17 year old is now even worse. She dissapears for days at a time (she has been gone for two days now) and is extremely vulgar to us when we speak to her. She hasn't been to school in a week and this is going to land her back in court (more problems for us :mad: ). She has also been coming home drunk and high. When she takes off like this, should we contact the sheriff and report her as a runaway? EVERY time? We thought about taking away everything she owns and just leaving a mattress in her room, but we rent and know that she would simply destroy everything in there - this is something we cannot afford to fix if it happened. My God, this has turned into such a hassle.....I hope we can keep dealing with this crap until she turns 18. As God is my witness I am going to wake her up at 12:01 on her birthday and escort her to the front door.

Moderator: I'm aware that the second half in regards to my 17 year old doesn't fit into this thread, maybe move to the juvenile law thread? Thanks!

FYI: just for the record, I'm the stepdad/grandpa
 
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Ron1347

Member
A child gone astray...always the product and fault of his/her environment/parents? That blanket characterization is just utterly rediculous!
 

InnaPickle

Junior Member
Thank You!

Ron1347 said:
A child gone astray...always the product and fault of his/her environment/parents? That blanket characterization is just utterly rediculous!

You don't know how much of a comfort it is to hear someone else besides myself say that!
 

stealth2

Under the Radar Member
Ron1347 said:
A child gone astray...always the product and fault of his/her environment/parents? That blanket characterization is just utterly rediculous!

When it's just one kid? There could be other factors. When more than one kid in the same family goes wrong? Yeah, you can bet that parenting has something to do with it. Maybe not everything, but certainly something.
 

Subandera

Member
sorta kinda related

I knwo this does nto pertain in a way, but one statement you wrote made me think of my own situation... My ex mother in law owned our marital home and when my ex, her son abused me I got a restraining order and the very same day she came in and threw me out ... literally... and I was nto allowed to take my 3 children. Even tho my husband was not there the law said I had to leave without the kids since I had no where to go, so in a way she retained custody In case you ask, I will answer before you do... I could not fight back much physically or mentally or emotionally because I was 2 weeks post stroke and have use of jsut one arm.... (which has sense resolved) but she called the law when I said I wasn't going anywhere without my kids and they said I had to go wothout them
 

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