Dispute Transcripts

[stockton]

CALIFORNIA

CIVIL CASE.

I PAID FOR THE TRANSCRIPTS. 14 PAGES FOR $40

Me and a witness both remember several comments that didn’t show up on the transcripts.

The Court reporter used a laptop and possibly a regular steno. She seemed to be sitting to the side of the laptop.

I asked the Court reporter I would like to review her tapes. She said no.

Q: How can I force the Court reporter to show me her original tape?

Q: what would I expect to see if portions are omitted or changed? Cross-outs, white-outs, initials?

Q: is there any place to check her license?

Thanks In Advance for all the replies!

 

[Ohiogal]

File a motion with the court requesting a copy of the recordings.

 

[stockton]

Thank You For Your Reply!

I have seen her report.

I paid for it (civil).

But it has a number of vital omissions or revisions to be accidental or misunderstood.

I am having trouble with the judge. I suspect he vetted the report.

Who do i complain to or file a motion?

Would this be a MOTION IN LIMINE?

As I suspect the judge is behind the altering, do i talk to the appellate court or the chief judge of the court house, or administer of the court house?

Thank You In Advance for your reply!

 

[Ohiogal]

Thank You For Your Reply!

I have seen her report.

I paid for it (civil).

But it has a number of vital omissions or revisions to be accidental or misunderstood.

I am having trouble with the judge. I suspect he vetted the report.

Who do i complain to or file a motion?

Would this be a MOTION IN LIMINE?

As I suspect the judge is behind the altering, do i talk to the appellate court or the chief judge of the court house, or administer of the court house?

Thank You In Advance for your reply!

YOu think it has omissions or revisions? Seriously? You have NO PROOF of anything except that you are upset. What you need to do is file a motion requesting a copy of the recording from which the transcription was made. Start there. And no this would NOT be a motion in limine. And your suspicions matter not.

 

[stockton]

Ohiogal,

I appreciate your disbelief.

It would be that much worse to hear what I claim, happens a lot.

I have a Judge who changed his ruling outside of Court, off-the-record, and based his reason to do so on a lie by opposing counsel who didn’t even appear at the hearing!

Accordingly, he told the Court Clerk to “amend” the Minute Order, which she did 14 days later, and notified NO ONE—to reflect “objections were filed” when they had not been.

On top of this, the Court record has 3 libelous letters that the Judge admits to reading. None of the letters are “filed”. They are placed on the left side of the Court record. Filed documents on the right side.

And the clerks all have this blissful attitude that no one would think to send an inappropriate letter to prejudice the Judge.

Yet, my Court file has THREE! In blatant violation to the judicial codes and lawyers professional codes.

Now, how can a courtroom have so many violations, improprieties and ongoing?

Either I am a lunatic or 12 professional people are foolishly risking good paying sacred jobs for the sake of, I have no idea!

Bytheway, I do have a witness. Maybe two, that the TRANSCRIPTS are not accurate.

Last night I found a complaint site for Court Reporters

Mines, is a sad case of professional people in the judiciary who have extreme contempt for pro se-types like me

Q: if the missing statements are the Judge’s, I doubt sending him a motion will have much hope. Who else could I approach?

Q: is there anyone in charge of the whole courthouse that i could complain to for the whole group? would i call them, visit personally or file a motion?

Thanks In Advance for your reply!

 

[Proserpina]

Which may be all very well...but what can you actually PROVE?

 

[Ronin]

Your ONLY legal remedy in this case is a Court of Appeals. They are the ONLY ones who can change a ruling or order a judge to do anything.

But if you think lower court judges have contempt for pro se litigants, you will almost surely find your court of appeals to be even less friendly. Especially to pro se litigants who accuse judges, even if rightfully so, of being dishonest. Any such complaints will be promptly dismissed and case closed.

But as these things go, such lessons must often be learned the hard way.

 

[stockton]

Ronin,

Thank you for your reply!

i agree the appellate court will not like me complaining about a judge.

but it isnt a lesson i will learn ("...lessons must often be learned the hard way.), it is simply the only thing to do. it just so happens, it is the right thing to do.

i am no hero, i have been beat up by courts many times. but every time i at least fought back.

sometimes the best we can do is make those jackals show themselves. so far, 12 people have had to join in on the primary lie.

can i prove it?

i can prove it to you, i can prove it to anyone who isnt part of their system. but i doubt the COA will admit they can see it, as you point out.

these people usually do not have to face those they lie to. whatever rational they use for the "tiny" lie they make is certainly enough to get over any guilt, unless, they have to face the person-- and lie again!

if you have any ideas of what issue i could put before the coa that might force them to intervene, let me know.

i sent them a complaint that i actually have no meaningful access to the court!

Thank You In Advance for any repy!

 

[stockton]

Prosepina,

Thank you for your reply,

"what can you actually PROVE?"

actually the better question is "What can I make them not ignore?"

as Ronin pointed out, the COA is hardly a court of integrity. they have shown me nothing in jurisprudence that i would call justice.

But why don’t you have the urge to encourage someone to face up to them? Why offer-up despair?
Ronin and Ohiogal were also solemn in their replies.

So far, in four hearings, I have lost every one.
The only consolation I have is that everyone of these Court employees have at least one moment to dread, and that is what will I do next?

In Court, I accused the Trustee and his lawyer of being nothing more that “purse-snatchers” as they are taking money from an old lady.

“They” took that accusation out of the transcripts. That is how adamant they are, that they are in control and at the top.

But my way of thinking Prosepina, is—How did they get the Court Reporter to mis-transcribe that statement? Would she do it for money? Would she do it because it is a tag that no respectable person should have and she is convinced, other than what I say, they are respectable persons? Or does she get the TRANSCRIPTS with the changes and doesn’t ask why? My concern is how evil is this set of people? What will stop them? Is there a chance to slow them down?

Any ideas on slowing them down?

Thanks in Advance for your reply!

 

[Proserpina]

You're just not getting this, are you?

 

[Ronin]

You're just not getting this, are you?

Ditto.

In Court, I accused the Trustee and his lawyer of being nothing more that “purse-snatchers” as they are taking money from an old lady. “They” took that accusation out of the transcripts.

THIS is your complaint

Such a statement made in court has no probative value and is worthless, and is only an opinion made by a party of this case. Such a statement made out of court could be construed as defamatory and cause legal problems for the one making it.

To suggest that a dozen people would even care about such a statement, much less collude to conceal it, is ludicrous...

 

[stockton]

Proserpina and Ronin,

Thank you both for replying.

Sadly I have wrongly described my issues.

The excerpt I mentioned missing is a minor issue.

I mentioned it as an example of how much the TRANSCRIPTS have been altered.

The Judge admitted the opposing attorney sent him a letter outside of Court, objecting to his ruling appointing me Trustee. But it leaves out exactly what the attorney had told him that he relied on and it adds a different ending than what actually was said.

Judge: “I[B] issued an order mistakenly because [the opposing attorney] didn’t come to Court to object.”

“[the next day] [the opposing attorney] wrote a letter explaining why he didn’t appear….”

“And then, on our next hearing, I stayed the issuance of the earlier issued oral ruling. I refused to sign the order to give you an opportunity to show cause why I shouldn’t substitute {your sister] as a successor Trustee.”[/B]

This also might not be enough for you to realize the ethical violations involved.

My story is long and I make it longer by my nature of explaining.

The Minute Order said simply the Court appointed me successor Trustee and that I was to provide a proposed order stating that and pursuant to Rule 3.1312, to serve it on the opposing party. (which allows objections to form not substance, that is, he can object if I stretch the Judge’s actual ruling to include more than what the Judge intended. But he cannot object to the ruling itself, as he forfeited that right by not appearing.)

Despite this, that is exactly what the attorney and Judge did. The next day the attorney objected and the Judge told me he changed his mind. It is so blatant, the error cannot be swept away quickly or neatly.

Attempts have been made, and that is where a few Court employees have either joined or been recruited to the sham.
14 days later the Minute Order has been “amended.” Now it says “LATER, OFF THE RECORD, objections were filed.. by [the opposing attorney]… the Court stays the order pending [a later hearing].”

If this doesn’t make it clear the improprieties are serious and real, I thank you for letting me know I need to work on that as I need to be clear for the COA.

As to the other 12 people, that would be a long explanation.

But I beg all of you, please give me and whoever might write to you the benefit of doubt rather than not. We are asking for assistance not conversation.

If any of you would have replied, “try the California Court Re
porters Association website”-- or similar, I might have saved a day or two. Sometimes I just cannot get the right “Google” words to get me the site I am looking for. And that is when I come asking you Q’s as I did here.

“do I get it?”

Yes, I get the Court's are against pro se litigants. I get it that other Judges will be mad at me for exposing a bad Judge. I get it that it is difficult to believe so many are willingly complicit for little or no reason.

When attacked, it is not always a choice to submit to lessen the damage. Some people actually plan to destroy the victim. So, in some cases, the victim might as well try to stop the attack and maybe hit back!

Certainly, you two encourage that—don’t you?

Any strategy or tactical ideas?

Thank You In Advance for any/all replies!

 

[Proserpina]

No, seriously - you're not getting it at all.

But please, as you were advised several times earlier, consult with an attorney at your own leisure.

 

[goddessoflubboc]

Judges (legitimately) strike comments, statements, questions and responses from the record. Therefore what you hear in court may not match the transcript word for word.

You are making serious allegations, and what exactly were your proveable damages?

While some courts have disdain for those going pro se ALL courts have disdain for those who come after the judiciary. Even if it's warranted.

 

[Ronin]

Judges (legitimately) strike comments, statements, questions and responses from the record. Therefore what you hear in court may not match the transcript word for word.

While this is true, it would not be legitimate for a judge to do so on his own initiative without the parties knowing about this and having an opportunity to object (for the record).