Sign on the dotted line. You say it is not about money yet you sue for $7,400,000, that is hypocritical/hippocritical. Just be up front, go with the attorneys that are willing to take your case on contingency, sue for money, then you will be able to be creative in the future in the future if it is God's will.
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Dissney Law suit--Good or Bad
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Owen Jesus
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Your right about it being hypocritical. That is why I'm doing everything in my power to delay signing on the dotted line. Once I sign, it becomes all about the money. I may have to sign sooner than I wanted.
As for
"MY RESPONSE: Do you think that I, or any attorney for that matter, went to law school just to work for free? Of course you do. Only you're allowed to make money, and I'm just here to work pro bono. Get real, will you. Have you ever heard of the separation of Church and State? Have you ever heard of an attorney who lived in a cardboard refrigerator box? Oh, please. Get off your soapbox. No one cares how you feel about God, and we, as attorneys don't want to hear about, either. When it comes to communicating with an attorney, you better learn to speak THEIR language; and their "language" is: "How much money is in it for me." That's it, end of story. You better get real, real fast."
That hurt a bit but I know I deserved it. Many of you have given me good advice but no one once mentioned a fee. If one of you said I'll write the lawsuit for (X amount of money) then we wouldn't still be talking about this.
As for
"MY RESPONSE: Do you think that I, or any attorney for that matter, went to law school just to work for free? Of course you do. Only you're allowed to make money, and I'm just here to work pro bono. Get real, will you. Have you ever heard of the separation of Church and State? Have you ever heard of an attorney who lived in a cardboard refrigerator box? Oh, please. Get off your soapbox. No one cares how you feel about God, and we, as attorneys don't want to hear about, either. When it comes to communicating with an attorney, you better learn to speak THEIR language; and their "language" is: "How much money is in it for me." That's it, end of story. You better get real, real fast."
That hurt a bit but I know I deserved it. Many of you have given me good advice but no one once mentioned a fee. If one of you said I'll write the lawsuit for (X amount of money) then we wouldn't still be talking about this.
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You are missing the point. The advice here is free.
If you want to have an attorney take a care on contingency, as you say you have lined up, you have to have a good case where they can collect, they have to be able to make a profit on it, that is why it is about money.
If you want to sue for any other reason, then you will have to pay an attorney a fee up front, so they get paid no matter the outcome.
If you have to ask us how to write your complaint, you are already at a disadvantage, that is why you need an attorney, no one is oging to be able to hold your hand through the whole process here.
This is about copyright infringement, clearly a civil matter about money, not a cause for which you will find an attorney to take on a pro bono basis, even though it is about more than money for you.
God has given you an opportunity to litigate this case, because there are attorney's willing to take it on contingency and an opportunity to possibly get what you want through the settlement in addition to money. Have faith that God can work through this situation, if it is his will.
If you want to have an attorney take a care on contingency, as you say you have lined up, you have to have a good case where they can collect, they have to be able to make a profit on it, that is why it is about money.
If you want to sue for any other reason, then you will have to pay an attorney a fee up front, so they get paid no matter the outcome.
If you have to ask us how to write your complaint, you are already at a disadvantage, that is why you need an attorney, no one is oging to be able to hold your hand through the whole process here.
This is about copyright infringement, clearly a civil matter about money, not a cause for which you will find an attorney to take on a pro bono basis, even though it is about more than money for you.
God has given you an opportunity to litigate this case, because there are attorney's willing to take it on contingency and an opportunity to possibly get what you want through the settlement in addition to money. Have faith that God can work through this situation, if it is his will.
Owen Jesus
Junior Member
Here is my dilemma. I have two really good firms willing to take this case on contingency. I sent most of the proof I sent to these law-firms to both "60 minutes" and "48 Hours". My contact at "48 Hours" told me that "60 minutes" may be interested in doing the story because I am requesting that Dissney give us a fair contract to do the shows they way they were intended to be done. Doing so we would forfeit any monetary damages due to us. Once I "sign on the dotted line" the option to simply ask for contracts to do our show is no longer an option because like you said, lawyers are about the money, not about getting a Christian based show on Dissney. In addition, it is much less likely that "60 Minutes" will be interested in yet another case against Disney where someone is looking for a big payoff. For 10 years I've been working on making a show that was good enough to make it on Dissney's lineup but also had a Christian main character. Obviously Dissney likes the shows I come up with because I sent them two shows and now they have two shows just like the formats I sent them, minus the Christian main character.
In my dream world, I get the lawsuit filed without "signing on the dotted line". "60 Minutes" or some other news show airs the story, Disney weights the options of getting another good show on their network or going to court and fighting it out. Their decision will determine IF I need to sign on the dotted line.
Here is the problem. We have a ton of proof and that is why we have law firms "lining up" to take this case on contingency. Even if we win 7 million, there is no guarantee that this Christian based show will make it on any major network. 20 million dollars will not remedy the fact I spent the last ten years of my life trying to get Dissney to pick up our shows and they did pick them up, just minus the Christian character.
In my dream world, I get the lawsuit filed without "signing on the dotted line". "60 Minutes" or some other news show airs the story, Disney weights the options of getting another good show on their network or going to court and fighting it out. Their decision will determine IF I need to sign on the dotted line.
Here is the problem. We have a ton of proof and that is why we have law firms "lining up" to take this case on contingency. Even if we win 7 million, there is no guarantee that this Christian based show will make it on any major network. 20 million dollars will not remedy the fact I spent the last ten years of my life trying to get Dissney to pick up our shows and they did pick them up, just minus the Christian character.
Owen Jesus
Junior Member
Letter to Roy Disney part 1
If anyone is interested in writing the suit and filing it for me for a fee, please e-mail me at clownschool@earthlink.net
Here is the LONG letter sent to Roy Disney. Almost all of the details are in there. If anyone is interested in taking on this challenge please let me know before 8/7 as I will be "signing on the dotted line" with a firm that will be taking over from there.
Thanks again for all your help
Dear Mr. Roy Disney:
I send this plea to you against the wishes of my lawyers and my staff, but I feel you deserve an explanation and a chance to intervene in the interest of your company. First of all I want to introduce myself. My name is Ron Czajkowski; I'm a father of three, I have been with my wife for 16 years and I have spent the last 10 years trying to come up with a Christian based show that was good enough to be a member of the Disney family. I use the name Owen Jesus as a pen name, because this project is not about me and I have no interest in fame. I am a Christian, though I don't think anyone would call me overly religious or a fanatic. Though I am far from perfect and have made many mistakes in my life, I think you will find that I am a person who is honest and I try my best to have a high level of integrity.
When I am not working on the "Clown School" series I try to be a good husband and a good father. I work a regular job as a carpenter, and I am the head of the United Methodist Men's Group in Schodack, NY. One of the men that meets with me every week just happens to know your nephew, Pat Disney, and went to college with him at Elmira College. I live 20 minutes from the president (Cyma Zarghami) of Nickelodeon's weekend home, and she knows of me but does not know me personally.
I may not have all the facts, and you may be holding a piece of the puzzle that I am unaware of, so I want to apologize in advance if you are offended by this letter. I hope I do not offend you, and I base this letter on all of the information and facts I have in my possession.
In my lifetime I have only created three different kids programs or TV show formats. These projects are "Clown School Jr," "Clown School Misfits" and "Clown School the Movie Memory Game" (based on "Clown School Misfits"). I need to make it clear right up front that my staff and I don't want to accuse your company of anything, we are not interested in law suits, we don't want a big check and we don't want to see anyone get fired. That said, the fact is that somehow two of the three projects I have created seem to have found their way onto your network under different names. After working ten years on this project, and spending thousands and thousands of dollars, the "Clown School" project has come to a screeching halt due to this problem and only you have the ability to get it back on track.
Over the past 5-6 years, we have sent your company two of the three projects ("Clown School Jr." and "Clown School Misfits"). I have enclosed in this packet a cassette tape for you to listen to and a copy of the registration form from the Writers Guild of America. When you open the shrink wrapped cassette tape, you will notice the date it was produced and as you listen to the tape, we refer to the Heavy Weight Champion of the world Evander Holyfield whom we were hoping would appear on our show. It has been many years since Evander Holyfield has been boxing champion of the world, so I hope these things provide enough proof to you that this is not a scam. If you look closely at the credits on the tape, my real name appears nowhere but instead the credits for any work I did was given to the name "Owen Jesus." I mention this because this project is not about me and I have no intention of making it about me. The tape was made as a promotional item to help us get a TV pilot made and much of the profits were to be used to do live shows for terminally ill children. As a Christian, I believe there is a better place waiting for us after we pass away, and I can think of no one else on earth that needs to hear that message more than a child who is scared, in pain, and knows they will soon be separated from the ones they love.
Though Disney was the only company we ever really envisioned doing this show, we were unsuccessful in getting your company to call us back even after sending several of these cassettes and original scripts. In September of 2003, a show called "Jojo's Circus" aired on Disney and the bottom line is someone took the parts they liked from Clown School (Jr.), threw away the religious theme, watered it down to a generic preschool theme, changed a couple names and marketed it as "Jojo's Circus".
Here are a few of the similarities based on the descriptions from the Disney website:
The star of our show is a cute little girl clown named Sunshine, and yours is a cute little girl clown named Jojo.
Our main character is an enthusiastic child clown, yours is a "enthusiastic kindergarten clown."
We start every episode with the characters in clown school, your clowns "learn how much fun Clown School can be."
Sunshine is the bold one and sticks up for her friends. Jojo is "the bold one (and) leader of the group."
Sunshine always tries to keep her friends out of trouble by coming up with good advice, Jojo "always finds a way to help her friends when they're in trouble."
Prissy always wears a pink dress, Trina is all dressed in pink.
Prissy is a spoiled brat and often comes off as mean, Trina "sometimes comes off as mean."
Prissy dresses up as a ballerina in this audio episode, Trina is a ballerina.
Our clowns live in Clownville, your clowns live in Clowntown.
We ask children to help us find our shows pet sidekick, Mr. Giggles (in the original script) and you ask children to find your pet sidekick, Goliath.
We did the story of David and Goliath and you have a Lion named Goliath.
Our clowns have a "pet" monkey and Jojo has a "pet" lion.
Clumsy is scared of everything but so much wants to be brave; Croaky is "easily scared but dreams big and is on the safer side of the gang."
We did the "60 second perk-up" to encourage movement (in the original script); your show encourages kids to get up and move around.
You have a clumsy clown school teacher, and we have a clumsy clown school teacher.
Stinky wants to grow up to be a rodeo clown, Skeebo wants to grow up to be a funny clown.
We have a secondary character named Baby Smarty-pant, you have a secondary character named Baby Charlie.
Our show ends with the "What did you ALL learn today?" segment, your show ends with the, "What did you learn today segment?"
A couple similarities is coincidence, there is an obvious pattern here and the list goes on.
If anyone is interested in writing the suit and filing it for me for a fee, please e-mail me at clownschool@earthlink.net
Here is the LONG letter sent to Roy Disney. Almost all of the details are in there. If anyone is interested in taking on this challenge please let me know before 8/7 as I will be "signing on the dotted line" with a firm that will be taking over from there.
Thanks again for all your help
Dear Mr. Roy Disney:
I send this plea to you against the wishes of my lawyers and my staff, but I feel you deserve an explanation and a chance to intervene in the interest of your company. First of all I want to introduce myself. My name is Ron Czajkowski; I'm a father of three, I have been with my wife for 16 years and I have spent the last 10 years trying to come up with a Christian based show that was good enough to be a member of the Disney family. I use the name Owen Jesus as a pen name, because this project is not about me and I have no interest in fame. I am a Christian, though I don't think anyone would call me overly religious or a fanatic. Though I am far from perfect and have made many mistakes in my life, I think you will find that I am a person who is honest and I try my best to have a high level of integrity.
When I am not working on the "Clown School" series I try to be a good husband and a good father. I work a regular job as a carpenter, and I am the head of the United Methodist Men's Group in Schodack, NY. One of the men that meets with me every week just happens to know your nephew, Pat Disney, and went to college with him at Elmira College. I live 20 minutes from the president (Cyma Zarghami) of Nickelodeon's weekend home, and she knows of me but does not know me personally.
I may not have all the facts, and you may be holding a piece of the puzzle that I am unaware of, so I want to apologize in advance if you are offended by this letter. I hope I do not offend you, and I base this letter on all of the information and facts I have in my possession.
In my lifetime I have only created three different kids programs or TV show formats. These projects are "Clown School Jr," "Clown School Misfits" and "Clown School the Movie Memory Game" (based on "Clown School Misfits"). I need to make it clear right up front that my staff and I don't want to accuse your company of anything, we are not interested in law suits, we don't want a big check and we don't want to see anyone get fired. That said, the fact is that somehow two of the three projects I have created seem to have found their way onto your network under different names. After working ten years on this project, and spending thousands and thousands of dollars, the "Clown School" project has come to a screeching halt due to this problem and only you have the ability to get it back on track.
Over the past 5-6 years, we have sent your company two of the three projects ("Clown School Jr." and "Clown School Misfits"). I have enclosed in this packet a cassette tape for you to listen to and a copy of the registration form from the Writers Guild of America. When you open the shrink wrapped cassette tape, you will notice the date it was produced and as you listen to the tape, we refer to the Heavy Weight Champion of the world Evander Holyfield whom we were hoping would appear on our show. It has been many years since Evander Holyfield has been boxing champion of the world, so I hope these things provide enough proof to you that this is not a scam. If you look closely at the credits on the tape, my real name appears nowhere but instead the credits for any work I did was given to the name "Owen Jesus." I mention this because this project is not about me and I have no intention of making it about me. The tape was made as a promotional item to help us get a TV pilot made and much of the profits were to be used to do live shows for terminally ill children. As a Christian, I believe there is a better place waiting for us after we pass away, and I can think of no one else on earth that needs to hear that message more than a child who is scared, in pain, and knows they will soon be separated from the ones they love.
Though Disney was the only company we ever really envisioned doing this show, we were unsuccessful in getting your company to call us back even after sending several of these cassettes and original scripts. In September of 2003, a show called "Jojo's Circus" aired on Disney and the bottom line is someone took the parts they liked from Clown School (Jr.), threw away the religious theme, watered it down to a generic preschool theme, changed a couple names and marketed it as "Jojo's Circus".
Here are a few of the similarities based on the descriptions from the Disney website:
The star of our show is a cute little girl clown named Sunshine, and yours is a cute little girl clown named Jojo.
Our main character is an enthusiastic child clown, yours is a "enthusiastic kindergarten clown."
We start every episode with the characters in clown school, your clowns "learn how much fun Clown School can be."
Sunshine is the bold one and sticks up for her friends. Jojo is "the bold one (and) leader of the group."
Sunshine always tries to keep her friends out of trouble by coming up with good advice, Jojo "always finds a way to help her friends when they're in trouble."
Prissy always wears a pink dress, Trina is all dressed in pink.
Prissy is a spoiled brat and often comes off as mean, Trina "sometimes comes off as mean."
Prissy dresses up as a ballerina in this audio episode, Trina is a ballerina.
Our clowns live in Clownville, your clowns live in Clowntown.
We ask children to help us find our shows pet sidekick, Mr. Giggles (in the original script) and you ask children to find your pet sidekick, Goliath.
We did the story of David and Goliath and you have a Lion named Goliath.
Our clowns have a "pet" monkey and Jojo has a "pet" lion.
Clumsy is scared of everything but so much wants to be brave; Croaky is "easily scared but dreams big and is on the safer side of the gang."
We did the "60 second perk-up" to encourage movement (in the original script); your show encourages kids to get up and move around.
You have a clumsy clown school teacher, and we have a clumsy clown school teacher.
Stinky wants to grow up to be a rodeo clown, Skeebo wants to grow up to be a funny clown.
We have a secondary character named Baby Smarty-pant, you have a secondary character named Baby Charlie.
Our show ends with the "What did you ALL learn today?" segment, your show ends with the, "What did you learn today segment?"
A couple similarities is coincidence, there is an obvious pattern here and the list goes on.
Owen Jesus
Junior Member
Letter to Roy Disney part 2
Before I go on to my second project, I need to point out that even though "Jojo's Circus" has been airing on Disney twice a day as of September 2003, not one person on my staff leaked this information to the press and no lawsuits were filed. We simply let it go. I say this because I know you get hundreds of people claiming Disney stole their ideas and are looking for a quick buck. Disney has been airing "Clown School Jr"./ "Jojo's Circus" for 1 year and 7 months twice a day, 5 days a week, and yet we remained silent. Keeping this from the press has been nothing short of a miracle considering we have staff members in MA, Ontario, NY, LA, Victoria B.C, Alaska and Georgia. Even though we had ample proof that you were airing our show, we did not ask you for a dime nor did we scream foul to the media. The reason is, we don't care about your money, the only reason I have spent the last ten years working on this project is because my goal is to get a good kids show on a major network that has a Christian main character. At present time, being gay is more trendy than being a Christian, which is evident by the fact that there are 50 times more gay characters on TV than there are Christians. Personally, I don't care how many shows there are with gay characters, but I created the "Clown School" project to show the world that you don't have to beg for money, wear polyester and walk around with protest signs to be a Christian. Christianity is about doing the right thing and treating all people as if they are as important or even more important than yourself.
Instead of letting the Jojo's Circus issue eat away at me, I went back to the drawing board and rewrote the format and scripts to target an older age group and "Clown School Jr." evolved into "Clown School Misfits." Even before Jojo's circus aired, the idea of turning these characters into a musical group was already in place as musical artists such as Pajamajon (Woodstock), Zankt (NYC) and Grammy Award winner Kevin Brandow (Albany) were already signed up to be the "vocal voices" of our colorful characters. By August of 2003, the first song (Grouchy's Song) was recorded at Richie Cannata's world renowned. "Cove City Sound Studios." With the lyrics, "Clumsy is my brother and he does what I say,;he wants to be like me, and I like it that way" there leaves no doubt our format had already established that the crazy colorful cast were now a musical group.
By October of 2003 many changes were made to the "Clown School Project" in order to separate its format from that of "Jojo's Circus." At this point, I felt that there was no way Disney would be involved in taking our idea and believed it was someone from the production company producing "Jojo's Circus." The irony was that we were changing our own show, so we didn't get sued by Disney, the same company we were trying so hard to get into. The idea of making a cartoon or claymation show changed into a live action show, with music as it's new attraction, since our clowns were now a musical group. We did our best to change our scripts that targeted preschool children to an older age group, and I rushed the process in order to be ready for the planned recording of our TV pilot. We were excited about the fact that we had a musical show that we could tour with around the country and hoped one day to be a daily production at Disney California or Florida. I pictured my entire family moving to California or Florida, performing 5 times a week for Disney, and becoming part of the Disney family. I even convinced my wife and children to take acting lessons for over six months so they could play the characters in the TV pilot, so if Disney ever picked up our show, we could perform as a family at one of Disney's parks.
By December 2003 we obtained a certificate of registration from the Library of Congress copyright office for the newly revised "Clown School" ("Clown School Misfits").
This time we would be more careful to leave paper trails and limit the number of people who were allowed to see the scripts. During the month of December 2003 the scripts were sent to two sources: Disney and Word Entertainment. Word Entertainment was going though a reorganization, and were dealing with new ownership, and asked us to resubmit the project sometime in the summer of 2004 when they would once again open their doors to new projects. As in the past, we did not hear anything from Disney, but we were still hopeful that we would get that call.
Our pilot episode was shot in April of 2004, and by November our show was finally ready to be sent out in rough form to be pitched again to Disney and Word Entertainment. This time no scripts were sent, just the DVD and pitches themselves. By chance, I met a man who just happened to know Cyma Zarghami, the president of Nickelodeon. Being a friend of a friend, she agreed to look at the project for us. A copy of the "Clown School Misfits," script was hand delivered to her weekend home. This brings the total to three companies in the entire world that had access to the "Clown School Misfits" format/script.
In the meantime, I created a third kids’ show which was created exclusively for Cyma and Nickelodeon called, "Clown School-the Movie Memory Game," which was a game-show. Just by chance, Cyma did not come upstate for a two week period, and I intercepted the scripts and DVD of the "Clown School Misfits" project and replaced it with a packet which included only my third project "Clown School-The Movie Memory Game." This brings the total back down to only two companies in the world that had access to the format. On November 3rd, Word Entertainment received the DVD, reviewed the show, and politely passed on the project. I had always thought the show was a bit over the top for a Christian network or distributor, so we were not really upset with this outcome. We were still hopeful that Disney would pick up the "Clown School Misfits" project or Cyma and Nickelodeon would pick up the "Clown School Movie Memory Game" project. We waited a month or two, and when we did not hear back from Disney or Nickelodeon, we sent a proposal to Cyma offering her (and Nickelodeon) full control of the project with only a few stipulations. For the first time in the history of television, both a Jewish and Christian based show had a chance to air on a major network. With Word Entertainment passing on the project, and Nickelodeon still looking over the project, there was only one other company in the world that had access to the format and full scripts. That company was Disney.
A few weeks ago I was at church and was surrounded by children. We were sorting out the audio version of "Clown School Jr" and were getting over 400 of them together to hand out free for an upcoming parade the characters of "Clown School" were involved in. After all, these audio tapes were no longer any good to me because they were so much like the "Jojo's Circus" format I couldn't sell them for fear of Disney's legal department. Also, they were of no value to me because I couldn't use them to pitch a show that was already on the air. I figured since they had been sitting around in boxes and I couldn't use them, why not donate them to the church to see if we could catch the attention of the town’s people? Hopefully, we might get some new members for the local church. As it turns out, one of the members of the men's group came up to me and said something like, "They did it again." Not only was Disney airing a homogonized version of "Clown School Jr.," they were now airing a second show with the backbone of the revised "Clown School Misfits." This show "Doodle Bops" is about "live action" solid color clown-like characters that perform in a musical band. This just happened to be the exact changes made to our show in order to separate it from "Jojo's Circus." Believe it or not, I don't have cable and was not aware of the show "Doodle Bops." I did not see the show until Monday, May 16th at 11 AM.
Here are only a few of the similarities (again the descriptions of your characters are from your own website):
Our clowns are a musical band, your clown-like characters are a musical band.
Every one of our characters are dressed in their own primary color including face, hair/ hat and clothes, so are yours.
Clumsy has blue hair, clothes and face paint, Rooney has blue hair, clothes and face paint.
Clumsy plays the bass, Rooney plays guitar.
Clumsy is the "genius" of the group, "Rooney is good at inventing things."
Clumsy's favorite activities are singing, sleeping and hiding, "Rooney's favorite activity is singing."
Grouchy has a red hat, clothes and face paint; Moe has red hair, clothes and face paint
Grouchy plays bass and sings, Moe plays the drums.
Grouchy is the "loud" mouth of the Group; Moe's favorite activity is making noise.
Stinky's hair is always messy; Moe's hair is always messy.
Sunshine plays the drums and the keyboards; Deedee Doodle plays the keyboards.
Sunshine's dress is covered with smiles and she has smiles on her cheeks, "Deedee always has a smile."
Prissy has pink hair, a pink dress and pink makeup on her face; Deedee has pink hair, a pink dress and a pink face paint.
Prissy is the resident rich kid and travels the world; "Deedee loves to read about places around the world."
We have the green bus; you have the doodle bus
We have ONE puppet character called Mr. Giggles that plays jokes on the rest of the cast; you have ONE puppet character called Mudge the Cat that tells jokes.
They do not call them clowns, but they look and act exactly like clowns and out of the thousands of characters Disney has had though the years, how many clown shows has Disney aired? Strangely enough, we sent Disney two shows with clowns and Disney now has two shows with clowns.
Before I go on to my second project, I need to point out that even though "Jojo's Circus" has been airing on Disney twice a day as of September 2003, not one person on my staff leaked this information to the press and no lawsuits were filed. We simply let it go. I say this because I know you get hundreds of people claiming Disney stole their ideas and are looking for a quick buck. Disney has been airing "Clown School Jr"./ "Jojo's Circus" for 1 year and 7 months twice a day, 5 days a week, and yet we remained silent. Keeping this from the press has been nothing short of a miracle considering we have staff members in MA, Ontario, NY, LA, Victoria B.C, Alaska and Georgia. Even though we had ample proof that you were airing our show, we did not ask you for a dime nor did we scream foul to the media. The reason is, we don't care about your money, the only reason I have spent the last ten years working on this project is because my goal is to get a good kids show on a major network that has a Christian main character. At present time, being gay is more trendy than being a Christian, which is evident by the fact that there are 50 times more gay characters on TV than there are Christians. Personally, I don't care how many shows there are with gay characters, but I created the "Clown School" project to show the world that you don't have to beg for money, wear polyester and walk around with protest signs to be a Christian. Christianity is about doing the right thing and treating all people as if they are as important or even more important than yourself.
Instead of letting the Jojo's Circus issue eat away at me, I went back to the drawing board and rewrote the format and scripts to target an older age group and "Clown School Jr." evolved into "Clown School Misfits." Even before Jojo's circus aired, the idea of turning these characters into a musical group was already in place as musical artists such as Pajamajon (Woodstock), Zankt (NYC) and Grammy Award winner Kevin Brandow (Albany) were already signed up to be the "vocal voices" of our colorful characters. By August of 2003, the first song (Grouchy's Song) was recorded at Richie Cannata's world renowned. "Cove City Sound Studios." With the lyrics, "Clumsy is my brother and he does what I say,;he wants to be like me, and I like it that way" there leaves no doubt our format had already established that the crazy colorful cast were now a musical group.
By October of 2003 many changes were made to the "Clown School Project" in order to separate its format from that of "Jojo's Circus." At this point, I felt that there was no way Disney would be involved in taking our idea and believed it was someone from the production company producing "Jojo's Circus." The irony was that we were changing our own show, so we didn't get sued by Disney, the same company we were trying so hard to get into. The idea of making a cartoon or claymation show changed into a live action show, with music as it's new attraction, since our clowns were now a musical group. We did our best to change our scripts that targeted preschool children to an older age group, and I rushed the process in order to be ready for the planned recording of our TV pilot. We were excited about the fact that we had a musical show that we could tour with around the country and hoped one day to be a daily production at Disney California or Florida. I pictured my entire family moving to California or Florida, performing 5 times a week for Disney, and becoming part of the Disney family. I even convinced my wife and children to take acting lessons for over six months so they could play the characters in the TV pilot, so if Disney ever picked up our show, we could perform as a family at one of Disney's parks.
By December 2003 we obtained a certificate of registration from the Library of Congress copyright office for the newly revised "Clown School" ("Clown School Misfits").
This time we would be more careful to leave paper trails and limit the number of people who were allowed to see the scripts. During the month of December 2003 the scripts were sent to two sources: Disney and Word Entertainment. Word Entertainment was going though a reorganization, and were dealing with new ownership, and asked us to resubmit the project sometime in the summer of 2004 when they would once again open their doors to new projects. As in the past, we did not hear anything from Disney, but we were still hopeful that we would get that call.
Our pilot episode was shot in April of 2004, and by November our show was finally ready to be sent out in rough form to be pitched again to Disney and Word Entertainment. This time no scripts were sent, just the DVD and pitches themselves. By chance, I met a man who just happened to know Cyma Zarghami, the president of Nickelodeon. Being a friend of a friend, she agreed to look at the project for us. A copy of the "Clown School Misfits," script was hand delivered to her weekend home. This brings the total to three companies in the entire world that had access to the "Clown School Misfits" format/script.
In the meantime, I created a third kids’ show which was created exclusively for Cyma and Nickelodeon called, "Clown School-the Movie Memory Game," which was a game-show. Just by chance, Cyma did not come upstate for a two week period, and I intercepted the scripts and DVD of the "Clown School Misfits" project and replaced it with a packet which included only my third project "Clown School-The Movie Memory Game." This brings the total back down to only two companies in the world that had access to the format. On November 3rd, Word Entertainment received the DVD, reviewed the show, and politely passed on the project. I had always thought the show was a bit over the top for a Christian network or distributor, so we were not really upset with this outcome. We were still hopeful that Disney would pick up the "Clown School Misfits" project or Cyma and Nickelodeon would pick up the "Clown School Movie Memory Game" project. We waited a month or two, and when we did not hear back from Disney or Nickelodeon, we sent a proposal to Cyma offering her (and Nickelodeon) full control of the project with only a few stipulations. For the first time in the history of television, both a Jewish and Christian based show had a chance to air on a major network. With Word Entertainment passing on the project, and Nickelodeon still looking over the project, there was only one other company in the world that had access to the format and full scripts. That company was Disney.
A few weeks ago I was at church and was surrounded by children. We were sorting out the audio version of "Clown School Jr" and were getting over 400 of them together to hand out free for an upcoming parade the characters of "Clown School" were involved in. After all, these audio tapes were no longer any good to me because they were so much like the "Jojo's Circus" format I couldn't sell them for fear of Disney's legal department. Also, they were of no value to me because I couldn't use them to pitch a show that was already on the air. I figured since they had been sitting around in boxes and I couldn't use them, why not donate them to the church to see if we could catch the attention of the town’s people? Hopefully, we might get some new members for the local church. As it turns out, one of the members of the men's group came up to me and said something like, "They did it again." Not only was Disney airing a homogonized version of "Clown School Jr.," they were now airing a second show with the backbone of the revised "Clown School Misfits." This show "Doodle Bops" is about "live action" solid color clown-like characters that perform in a musical band. This just happened to be the exact changes made to our show in order to separate it from "Jojo's Circus." Believe it or not, I don't have cable and was not aware of the show "Doodle Bops." I did not see the show until Monday, May 16th at 11 AM.
Here are only a few of the similarities (again the descriptions of your characters are from your own website):
Our clowns are a musical band, your clown-like characters are a musical band.
Every one of our characters are dressed in their own primary color including face, hair/ hat and clothes, so are yours.
Clumsy has blue hair, clothes and face paint, Rooney has blue hair, clothes and face paint.
Clumsy plays the bass, Rooney plays guitar.
Clumsy is the "genius" of the group, "Rooney is good at inventing things."
Clumsy's favorite activities are singing, sleeping and hiding, "Rooney's favorite activity is singing."
Grouchy has a red hat, clothes and face paint; Moe has red hair, clothes and face paint
Grouchy plays bass and sings, Moe plays the drums.
Grouchy is the "loud" mouth of the Group; Moe's favorite activity is making noise.
Stinky's hair is always messy; Moe's hair is always messy.
Sunshine plays the drums and the keyboards; Deedee Doodle plays the keyboards.
Sunshine's dress is covered with smiles and she has smiles on her cheeks, "Deedee always has a smile."
Prissy has pink hair, a pink dress and pink makeup on her face; Deedee has pink hair, a pink dress and a pink face paint.
Prissy is the resident rich kid and travels the world; "Deedee loves to read about places around the world."
We have the green bus; you have the doodle bus
We have ONE puppet character called Mr. Giggles that plays jokes on the rest of the cast; you have ONE puppet character called Mudge the Cat that tells jokes.
They do not call them clowns, but they look and act exactly like clowns and out of the thousands of characters Disney has had though the years, how many clown shows has Disney aired? Strangely enough, we sent Disney two shows with clowns and Disney now has two shows with clowns.
Owen Jesus
Junior Member
letter to Roy Disney part 3
Below are some of the time lines to support the information I have provided for you which is just the tip of the iceberg.
Date line :
February 1999- registered "Clown School" and format with the Writers Guild of America
August 1999 - Finished recording/ editing "Clown School" audio version
August 1999 - Sent copies of audio version of "Clown School" to every Disney affiliate
September 2003 – "Jojo's Circus" aired on Disney
September 2003 - Changed format from "Clown School Jr" to "Clown School Misfits" due to the many similarities of "JoJo's Circus."
October 2003 - Obtained certificate of registration from the Library of Congress copyright office for the newly revised "Clown School."
October 2003 -Sent newly revised scripts to Disney and Word Entertainment
April 2004 - Shot live action TV pilot
April 2004 - Sent preview video with theme song and photos from the set to Disney and Word Entertainment
August 2004 - Sent out video footage with theme song, rock video and opening credits
November 2004 - Sent out copies of "Clown School (misfits)" to Disney and Word Entertainment and Nickelodeon.
April 2005 – "Doodle Bop" premiers on Disney
Your first inclination would be to point at the production companies producing these shows, but the paper trail leads directly to Disney and our company has never had any contact with either Cartoon Pizza or Cookie Jar Productions. Next, you will try to highlight the differences of the shows and try to deviate from the issue at hand. Both of these shows have the exact same base format as our two shows, and our shows are now worthless. However, I do not want to hurt Disney because one or two people from your company are apparently making deals under the table. So where do we go from here? We can spend years pointing fingers and playing "the glove doesn't fit game" or we can settle this where we both come out unscathed. I know you have all the money in the world to make it look like these shows are worlds apart and can destroy my character in a heart beat. We have over 1000 people who would be willing to testify in court in order to validate these facts and many more. I hope going directly to you with this letter proves to you that I am not the bad guy in this drama and that I feel we can work this out. Even without all this proof, if you are willing to answer these two questions honesty, you may find you have some internal issues to deal with.
1) Out of the 10,000 scripts and projects Disney has reviewed, what are the chances that Disney would be airing two shows that are similar to ours during the same decade, on the same channel and on the same days knowing in fact that I have only submitted two shows to Disney in my entire lifetime?
2) Knowing that I have only sent Disney two shows/ formats and both involve clownish figures, how realistic is it to believe that it is just by chance we both have clowns that go to clown school on one show and we both have clown-like figures that form a musical band on the other even without knowing Disney had access to both our formats long before they aired?
I know these questions seem silly, but common sense and integrity seems to evaporate when it comes to issues of money and legal loopholes. That is why I come to you to deal with this issue directly. I am sure you are totally unaware of this issue, but I am still hopeful we can work this out without the lawyers or the press. Our project is now at a standstill because no network or distributor will risk picking up our show if there is a chance they will be sued by Disney. Our staff and production company can do nothing until we start a dialogue with you to correct this issue. Out of respect to you and your company, we have not brought this to the media and even overlooked the "Jojo's Circus" issue. I hope that you return that respect by contacting us by the end of the month with more than a denial or letter from your lawyers. There is no need to point out the differences our shows have or that the "creators" of these shows are not affiliated with Disney. When all is said and done, "Jojo's Circus" is a watered down version of "Clown School Jr." and the "Doodle Bops" is a watered down version of "Clown School Misfits" and Disney is profiting from them both. We already know that Disney could never admit any prior knowledge of our shows, due to the many other lawsuits you have against you, even if you wanted to. We are not looking for a confession or a quick buck. As far as I am concerned this is an internal problem that you can deal with, and I don't want to know who, when, where or why. I do not believe Disney blatantly steals shows, but someone seems to have gotten a hold of the scripts we sent to you, sent them to other production companies to cover their trail, bought them back and got some kickback money at the expense of your company, our company and your stockholders. I'm not angry with Disney and a multi-million dollar law suit only hurts Disney's stockholders and no amount of money will change the fact that our shows are now unsellable. If you and I can't work this out, then my quest to have a Christian based show on a major network may never be realized. There is no amount of money that will make this right, but you have the power to make it right.
Below are some of the time lines to support the information I have provided for you which is just the tip of the iceberg.
Date line :
February 1999- registered "Clown School" and format with the Writers Guild of America
August 1999 - Finished recording/ editing "Clown School" audio version
August 1999 - Sent copies of audio version of "Clown School" to every Disney affiliate
September 2003 – "Jojo's Circus" aired on Disney
September 2003 - Changed format from "Clown School Jr" to "Clown School Misfits" due to the many similarities of "JoJo's Circus."
October 2003 - Obtained certificate of registration from the Library of Congress copyright office for the newly revised "Clown School."
October 2003 -Sent newly revised scripts to Disney and Word Entertainment
April 2004 - Shot live action TV pilot
April 2004 - Sent preview video with theme song and photos from the set to Disney and Word Entertainment
August 2004 - Sent out video footage with theme song, rock video and opening credits
November 2004 - Sent out copies of "Clown School (misfits)" to Disney and Word Entertainment and Nickelodeon.
April 2005 – "Doodle Bop" premiers on Disney
Your first inclination would be to point at the production companies producing these shows, but the paper trail leads directly to Disney and our company has never had any contact with either Cartoon Pizza or Cookie Jar Productions. Next, you will try to highlight the differences of the shows and try to deviate from the issue at hand. Both of these shows have the exact same base format as our two shows, and our shows are now worthless. However, I do not want to hurt Disney because one or two people from your company are apparently making deals under the table. So where do we go from here? We can spend years pointing fingers and playing "the glove doesn't fit game" or we can settle this where we both come out unscathed. I know you have all the money in the world to make it look like these shows are worlds apart and can destroy my character in a heart beat. We have over 1000 people who would be willing to testify in court in order to validate these facts and many more. I hope going directly to you with this letter proves to you that I am not the bad guy in this drama and that I feel we can work this out. Even without all this proof, if you are willing to answer these two questions honesty, you may find you have some internal issues to deal with.
1) Out of the 10,000 scripts and projects Disney has reviewed, what are the chances that Disney would be airing two shows that are similar to ours during the same decade, on the same channel and on the same days knowing in fact that I have only submitted two shows to Disney in my entire lifetime?
2) Knowing that I have only sent Disney two shows/ formats and both involve clownish figures, how realistic is it to believe that it is just by chance we both have clowns that go to clown school on one show and we both have clown-like figures that form a musical band on the other even without knowing Disney had access to both our formats long before they aired?
I know these questions seem silly, but common sense and integrity seems to evaporate when it comes to issues of money and legal loopholes. That is why I come to you to deal with this issue directly. I am sure you are totally unaware of this issue, but I am still hopeful we can work this out without the lawyers or the press. Our project is now at a standstill because no network or distributor will risk picking up our show if there is a chance they will be sued by Disney. Our staff and production company can do nothing until we start a dialogue with you to correct this issue. Out of respect to you and your company, we have not brought this to the media and even overlooked the "Jojo's Circus" issue. I hope that you return that respect by contacting us by the end of the month with more than a denial or letter from your lawyers. There is no need to point out the differences our shows have or that the "creators" of these shows are not affiliated with Disney. When all is said and done, "Jojo's Circus" is a watered down version of "Clown School Jr." and the "Doodle Bops" is a watered down version of "Clown School Misfits" and Disney is profiting from them both. We already know that Disney could never admit any prior knowledge of our shows, due to the many other lawsuits you have against you, even if you wanted to. We are not looking for a confession or a quick buck. As far as I am concerned this is an internal problem that you can deal with, and I don't want to know who, when, where or why. I do not believe Disney blatantly steals shows, but someone seems to have gotten a hold of the scripts we sent to you, sent them to other production companies to cover their trail, bought them back and got some kickback money at the expense of your company, our company and your stockholders. I'm not angry with Disney and a multi-million dollar law suit only hurts Disney's stockholders and no amount of money will change the fact that our shows are now unsellable. If you and I can't work this out, then my quest to have a Christian based show on a major network may never be realized. There is no amount of money that will make this right, but you have the power to make it right.
Owen Jesus
Junior Member
letter to Roy Disney part 4
Instead of spending millions in shareholders’ money in court fees and lawyers fees, I ask that you simply give Clown School Production the same backing, budget and time slots as you did "Jojo's Circus" and "Doodle Bops" and the situation goes away and we can enjoy a wonderful partnership. Everyone makes mistakes, it is how you correct those mistakes that matters to us now. I feel really sorry for mentioning Cyma and Nickelodeon in this letter because Nickelodeon had nothing to do with this situation, but I needed to be honest about the paper trails. I am forwarding this letter to Cyma out of respect to her for being an unwilling participant in this unfortunate drama. I am sure you know of each other, being in the same industry, and I think she can support parts of this story if you wish to contact her.
If I die and it takes fifty years to settle this and our shows one day become the first Christian and Jewish Kids’ shows on a major network, then this is an issue worth fighting for. You can offer me $10 million dollars to settle this issue, and I will decline the offer. No amount of money will guarantee that our shows will be aired on a major network. That is why they were created and that is the only way this will be settled. I don't mean to sound preachy, but I believe that my time on this earth is only a "commercial break" on the network of time. I believe Jesus died for us, and I can't think of a better way to thank him than doing whatever it takes to let others know that life is nothing but a dress rehearsal for the real show that is to come. "Clown School" was created to reach out to the kids whose parents don't know this and only a network such as yours can reach that audience.
What we get out of the deal is we will finally see the shows produced the way they were intended to be shown, and non-Christians will get a glimpse of what Judaism and Christianity is really all about. "Clown School Jr." will have its basic original format. It will be made with claymation or as a cartoon, target preschoolers and have one cute bible story from the old testament. The word Christian will not be mentioned because it will reach out to the Jewish community. "Clown School Misfits" will be a live action show, will target 4-7 year olds and will have one bible story from either the old testament or new testament. It is obvious that your company already feels I create pretty good shows, but to be honest with you, I am not a great writer and I don't plan on writing the shows without a lot of help. I am no longer interested in having my family involved as actors for Disney, so together we can come up with a team of good actors and writers that will make the show great and we both have a happy ending.
Several months ago we test marketed a rough edit of "Clown School Misfits" at the local middle school. As rough as it was (no actors, no backgrounds, no sound effects) the pilot scored higher than any other TV show on ANY network besides "Sponge Bob Square Pants" and the "Fairly Odd Parents." If you are interested, I can send you the final results, but all question forms were sent directly to Nickelodeon and are no longer in our possession.
What Disney gets out of this is they don't have to admit to anything (which will be of major importance in any lawsuits you are involved in presently and in the future), save millions of dollars of stockholders money, get a new target group to watch your channel and get two new shows to add to your empire. It is a win-win situation, and I pray this can be settled without the lawyers or the press, but I will no longer ask our staff to remain silent about this issue if Disney is not willing to make this right. Please help me by encouraging your company to correct the wrong that has been done. In return, I will do my best to make a good show, without thick propaganda and will work WITH Disney to do so. After all, a watered down version of anything is never as good as the original. If the half developed generic versions of our shows are a hit (presently "Jojo's Circus" and "Doodle Bops" are both being aired twice a day, everyday) then how can the original jam packed shows be a flop? By correcting this mistake, you will be reaching out to both the Jewish and Christian community which will not only be a big step for Disney but will also be a groundbreaking step. Please, please do the right thing for both of our sakes. To be blatantly honest, it would be to our advantage to let the media work this out for us knowing that there is no such thing as negative publicity. If we went directly to the press, this would be a huge story and would have "hyped up" the eventual premiere of these shows. If we don't end up airing these on Disney, the only other way another company would even touch these projects now is if they get to be the hero in the eyes of the people and the press. That would mean we would be forced to milk this story for everything it is worth, until another network comes to the rescue. The last thing Disney needs is another network to take a stand as the "caring" company that embraces these Christian and Jewish based shows as Disney plays "the glove doesn't fit game" and lets the lawyers do what they do best. Good for them, good for us, not so good for Disney. That is why I come to you first. I am fully aware that this is not the "smart" thing to do, but in my heart I know it is the right thing to do.
Thank you for your time and I pray that God blesses you,
Sincerely
Owen Jesus (AKA Ron Czajkowski)
Clown School Productions
Instead of spending millions in shareholders’ money in court fees and lawyers fees, I ask that you simply give Clown School Production the same backing, budget and time slots as you did "Jojo's Circus" and "Doodle Bops" and the situation goes away and we can enjoy a wonderful partnership. Everyone makes mistakes, it is how you correct those mistakes that matters to us now. I feel really sorry for mentioning Cyma and Nickelodeon in this letter because Nickelodeon had nothing to do with this situation, but I needed to be honest about the paper trails. I am forwarding this letter to Cyma out of respect to her for being an unwilling participant in this unfortunate drama. I am sure you know of each other, being in the same industry, and I think she can support parts of this story if you wish to contact her.
If I die and it takes fifty years to settle this and our shows one day become the first Christian and Jewish Kids’ shows on a major network, then this is an issue worth fighting for. You can offer me $10 million dollars to settle this issue, and I will decline the offer. No amount of money will guarantee that our shows will be aired on a major network. That is why they were created and that is the only way this will be settled. I don't mean to sound preachy, but I believe that my time on this earth is only a "commercial break" on the network of time. I believe Jesus died for us, and I can't think of a better way to thank him than doing whatever it takes to let others know that life is nothing but a dress rehearsal for the real show that is to come. "Clown School" was created to reach out to the kids whose parents don't know this and only a network such as yours can reach that audience.
What we get out of the deal is we will finally see the shows produced the way they were intended to be shown, and non-Christians will get a glimpse of what Judaism and Christianity is really all about. "Clown School Jr." will have its basic original format. It will be made with claymation or as a cartoon, target preschoolers and have one cute bible story from the old testament. The word Christian will not be mentioned because it will reach out to the Jewish community. "Clown School Misfits" will be a live action show, will target 4-7 year olds and will have one bible story from either the old testament or new testament. It is obvious that your company already feels I create pretty good shows, but to be honest with you, I am not a great writer and I don't plan on writing the shows without a lot of help. I am no longer interested in having my family involved as actors for Disney, so together we can come up with a team of good actors and writers that will make the show great and we both have a happy ending.
Several months ago we test marketed a rough edit of "Clown School Misfits" at the local middle school. As rough as it was (no actors, no backgrounds, no sound effects) the pilot scored higher than any other TV show on ANY network besides "Sponge Bob Square Pants" and the "Fairly Odd Parents." If you are interested, I can send you the final results, but all question forms were sent directly to Nickelodeon and are no longer in our possession.
What Disney gets out of this is they don't have to admit to anything (which will be of major importance in any lawsuits you are involved in presently and in the future), save millions of dollars of stockholders money, get a new target group to watch your channel and get two new shows to add to your empire. It is a win-win situation, and I pray this can be settled without the lawyers or the press, but I will no longer ask our staff to remain silent about this issue if Disney is not willing to make this right. Please help me by encouraging your company to correct the wrong that has been done. In return, I will do my best to make a good show, without thick propaganda and will work WITH Disney to do so. After all, a watered down version of anything is never as good as the original. If the half developed generic versions of our shows are a hit (presently "Jojo's Circus" and "Doodle Bops" are both being aired twice a day, everyday) then how can the original jam packed shows be a flop? By correcting this mistake, you will be reaching out to both the Jewish and Christian community which will not only be a big step for Disney but will also be a groundbreaking step. Please, please do the right thing for both of our sakes. To be blatantly honest, it would be to our advantage to let the media work this out for us knowing that there is no such thing as negative publicity. If we went directly to the press, this would be a huge story and would have "hyped up" the eventual premiere of these shows. If we don't end up airing these on Disney, the only other way another company would even touch these projects now is if they get to be the hero in the eyes of the people and the press. That would mean we would be forced to milk this story for everything it is worth, until another network comes to the rescue. The last thing Disney needs is another network to take a stand as the "caring" company that embraces these Christian and Jewish based shows as Disney plays "the glove doesn't fit game" and lets the lawyers do what they do best. Good for them, good for us, not so good for Disney. That is why I come to you first. I am fully aware that this is not the "smart" thing to do, but in my heart I know it is the right thing to do.
Thank you for your time and I pray that God blesses you,
Sincerely
Owen Jesus (AKA Ron Czajkowski)
Clown School Productions
There once lived a firm believer in GOD, who strongly believed that GOD would always help him out in times of crisis. There were heavy rains, the river overflowed and soon the entire town was beginning to be covered with the flood waters.
People started vacating as flood waters started flowing into the streets and then into their houses. A neighbor was about to leave his house with his family asked this man to join him. But he refused to move ofrom his house saying that, he believed in GOD and was sure that GOD would never allow him to die in the flood water and would certainly come to save him. Shaking his head the neighbor left with his family and so did everyone else except the man.
Soon, the flood waters entered the first floor of his house and he was forced to move to the second floor of his home. After a while a local rescue boat came in search of those who were still trapped inside their houses and the man on the boat asked our devotee to join them. Again, our devotee refused to budge. He continued to pray and believed that GOD would perform a miricle and help him. The rescue boat left.
The water level increased the man moved up to the roof of his house. There he continued to pray, looking up at the skies expecting GOD to arrive any time. As he was looking the skies, a rescue helicopter arrived this time and on seeing our devotee standing on the roof top of his house, the man inside the helicopter offered to throw a rope down and rescue the man out of the increasing flood waters. Yet, again the man refused to give up saying, "GOD shall not let me down". The helicopter too left the place to rescue other people.
The flood water level just kept increasing till the man finally drowned. After his death, the devotee went to the GOD and questioned him with anger, "GOD, I believed in you so much. I was your greatest believer throughout my life. Yet, you did not come to save me during the time of my crisis and now I'm dead. Why did you do this to me?"
"What?", asked the surprised GOD to the man, "How can you say that I didn't help you, when I indeed did come to your rescue."
Surprised, he asked, "When did you come to save me GOD?".
GOD replied, "First I came to rescue you as your neighbor, but you refused my help. Then again, I came in a boat hoping to pull you out of the flood water, but again you refused my help. Finally, as a last ditch effort I came in a helicopter to save you. Again you refused my help. What else did you expect me to do?".
People started vacating as flood waters started flowing into the streets and then into their houses. A neighbor was about to leave his house with his family asked this man to join him. But he refused to move ofrom his house saying that, he believed in GOD and was sure that GOD would never allow him to die in the flood water and would certainly come to save him. Shaking his head the neighbor left with his family and so did everyone else except the man.
Soon, the flood waters entered the first floor of his house and he was forced to move to the second floor of his home. After a while a local rescue boat came in search of those who were still trapped inside their houses and the man on the boat asked our devotee to join them. Again, our devotee refused to budge. He continued to pray and believed that GOD would perform a miricle and help him. The rescue boat left.
The water level increased the man moved up to the roof of his house. There he continued to pray, looking up at the skies expecting GOD to arrive any time. As he was looking the skies, a rescue helicopter arrived this time and on seeing our devotee standing on the roof top of his house, the man inside the helicopter offered to throw a rope down and rescue the man out of the increasing flood waters. Yet, again the man refused to give up saying, "GOD shall not let me down". The helicopter too left the place to rescue other people.
The flood water level just kept increasing till the man finally drowned. After his death, the devotee went to the GOD and questioned him with anger, "GOD, I believed in you so much. I was your greatest believer throughout my life. Yet, you did not come to save me during the time of my crisis and now I'm dead. Why did you do this to me?"
"What?", asked the surprised GOD to the man, "How can you say that I didn't help you, when I indeed did come to your rescue."
Surprised, he asked, "When did you come to save me GOD?".
GOD replied, "First I came to rescue you as your neighbor, but you refused my help. Then again, I came in a boat hoping to pull you out of the flood water, but again you refused my help. Finally, as a last ditch effort I came in a helicopter to save you. Again you refused my help. What else did you expect me to do?".
Owen Jesus
Junior Member
I atleast expected Roy to forward the letter to the legal department. Maybe he did and they are just waiting for the lawsuit to be filed.
I still have a few more days before I sign on with a lawfirm. Any lawyer out there willing to write the lawsuit for me? I expected to pay $200-$300 plus the $200 filing fee if anyone is interested. It would me the difference between me fighting for a Christian show to be on the air vs. money for lawyers and for me to make a video series that may never make it on the air. All I have ever wanted was to see Dissney put a show on that has a Christian main character. Is that too much to ask?
I still have a few more days before I sign on with a lawfirm. Any lawyer out there willing to write the lawsuit for me? I expected to pay $200-$300 plus the $200 filing fee if anyone is interested. It would me the difference between me fighting for a Christian show to be on the air vs. money for lawyers and for me to make a video series that may never make it on the air. All I have ever wanted was to see Dissney put a show on that has a Christian main character. Is that too much to ask?
I AM ALWAYS LIABLE
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Owen Jesus said:I atleast expected Roy to forward the letter to the legal department. Maybe he did and they are just waiting for the lawsuit to be filed.
I still have a few more days before I sign on with a lawfirm. Any lawyer out there willing to write the lawsuit for me? I expected to pay $200-$300 plus the $200 filing fee if anyone is interested. It would me the difference between me fighting for a Christian show to be on the air vs. money for lawyers and for me to make a video series that may never make it on the air. All I have ever wanted was to see Dissney put a show on that has a Christian main character. Is that too much to ask?
My response:
You expect to pay an attorney to write you a Federal Complaint for $300.00? Wow, I'd like to jump at that! A whole $300.00? That's an incredible amount . . . if this were 1972!
You people on the "Religious Right" just bust me up!
By the way, when was the last time you saw something "secular" in a Disney movie or television show? No wonder Roy isn't communicating with you!
IAAL
Owen Jesus
Junior Member
OK, so $300 is chump change, sorry I didn't realize that. So give me a realistic figure and I'll pay it. For all the time and energy put into busting my chops, the suit could have been written three times over.
As for the religious right, I'm not exactly the poster boy for Christianity. I love my Rock n' Roll, own a Harley and have been known to swear like a trucker. I'm not trying to come off as some Holy Roller. I've just spent a small fortune and 10 years of my life on something I believe to be good for kids. Everyone complains about the quality of TV now days. I finally came up with not one but two shows that were good enough to make it on Playhouse Dissney. I just want a chance to get a third show on their network.
As for the religious right, I'm not exactly the poster boy for Christianity. I love my Rock n' Roll, own a Harley and have been known to swear like a trucker. I'm not trying to come off as some Holy Roller. I've just spent a small fortune and 10 years of my life on something I believe to be good for kids. Everyone complains about the quality of TV now days. I finally came up with not one but two shows that were good enough to make it on Playhouse Dissney. I just want a chance to get a third show on their network.
Owen Jesus
Junior Member
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I want to thank you for your advise. I have been pondering your advise and I am finally going to take it. I have dropped the idea of getting someone to write the lawsuit and I am going to hand it over to the big boys. We have a top notch firm looking everything over and I could be "signing on the dotted line as early as Friday. I am actually relieved because fighting this battle alone has been exhausting. Once I turn the whole case over there is no turning back. So much for "making nice" with Dissney.
Thanks again for your advise.
I want to thank you for your advise. I have been pondering your advise and I am finally going to take it. I have dropped the idea of getting someone to write the lawsuit and I am going to hand it over to the big boys. We have a top notch firm looking everything over and I could be "signing on the dotted line as early as Friday. I am actually relieved because fighting this battle alone has been exhausting. Once I turn the whole case over there is no turning back. So much for "making nice" with Dissney.
Thanks again for your advise.