Drivers license suspended, now what?

[Jay76]

Yeah Blondie, his friends are whomever he meets in his travels who will stand there and listen to his non-stop ramblings and who don't mind listening to his biggoted, sexist, racist, ethnic, paranoid, delusional etc. etc. remarks & comments etc.....Since there are not too many people who will listen to that for very long, he therefore has no friends unless he happens to come across someone similar and then guess what kind of advice he may get from THEM...........He was somewhat like an Archie Bunker type in his younger days but not funny. Age has caused those traits to become extreme now. I better stop there before I myself am accused of bashing or blasting rather than expressing the truth.

He already indirectly admitted he took off the license plate yesterday when rushing out the store to get to the bank before it closed. I heard him tell mother that he was late, not to hold him up as he still "had to put on his license tag". I did not comment then as he was in a real hurry. I just went out now and see that it is on there at the moment, he will probably take off again later. I'll take your advice on that though.

Mother lives under my roof also. Neither has one penny invested in my home btw but do contribute somewhat to their keep here. She is another story in herself. I won't even go into that or ya may think I am a masochist (sp?) for allowing them into my home to totally disrupt my life. Some people call me a Saint because I put up with all that from the two of them and others just probably wonder why I don't put them out. No one I have ever met would put up with what I do. Mother doesn't drive (never did) so no problems there. She nags etc. from sun-up till she falls asleep but basically is a good person at heart and does the best she can considering her own health & mental state & lack of education...........Yes they are still legally married but she left him 16 years ago for legitimate reasons and they only are back under the same roof now (mine) for the last three years since I allowed him to move in out of pity etc.........

May I ask what state you live in Blondie (where is Bikini Atoll). If ya care to keep private, I understand. Are the laws where you live the same as in Fla. if you are not in Fla. that is?

Thanks yet one more time for YOUR TIME etc......

I won't call APS that you mentioned today as I just have too much to do today and too much already on my mind. I will do it soon though. Would it be beneficial in any way that I put off calling the cops to take his drivers license until after I do the APS thingy or vice versa. I think I need to get him off the road asap though.

Yes, he can afford legal bills etc. even though not rich, he is comfy considering his lifestyle etc.......Fully covered for medical problems too although he is also talking about dropping his great coverage which he can easily afford to go to a little cheaper HMO or something like that. Knowing his mental state he may even drop all coverage, if I can't stop that.

Talk to ya later.

 

[rmet4nzkx]

You need to call the police today and have them pick up his license, you know it's suspended and that he will drive. You know you have to do something now, if he did drive and something happened, you could be held responsible. You don't want to be charged with aiding and abetting?

Then call APS or the police may call APS if they are mandated reporters, ask about that when you call them, let them know about the other signs of incompetency, you may be able to accompliah both with one call. You need to have control over his affairs soon.

 

[Jay76]

Thanks,

Doesn't look like he will go out today anywhere but I will get on it asap. He only drives about once or twice per week lately as he probably realizes or has been told by someone that he will be in trouble if caught/stopped. I will follow him if I have to (if he goes out before I get someone to come over to the house for his license) and stop a cop, so not to worry. Or I will disable the vehicle or take the tag myself.

 

[rmet4nzkx]

Thanks,

Doesn't look like he will go out today anywhere but I will get on it asap. He only drives about once or twice per week lately as he probably realizes or has been told by someone that he will be in trouble if caught/stopped. I will follow him if I have to (if he goes out before I get someone to come over to the house for his license) and stop a cop, so not to worry. Or I will disable the vehicle or take the tag myself.

Take the coil wire and the rotor, or a fuse
Call the police today, don't put it off

 

[Jay76]

OK...........Thanks.

 

[rmet4nzkx]

OK...........Thanks.

I know losing their driving privilege is devestating to an elderly person but it's in everyone's best interest and it's not as if he doesn't have a means to get around. Also transportation such as dial a ride is not free, there is a small fee usually less than a cab, some cities had taxi accommodations also, but it is designed to transport seniors and disabled door to door like a cab, someitmes they share a ride with others.

It will be easier once you have made the call, he won't have to know you called. Keep us updated.

 

[BlondiePB]

Originally Posted by rmet4nzkx
You need to call the police and have them pick up his license, you know it's suspended and that he will drive.

That's what Jay76 was first advised to do. I think we can all agree that dad needs help and needs to stay off the road. Dealing with the problem is much more complicated than just calling the police and APS. The police here in FL do not regularly call APS, though that's something that would be a great idea to implement.

From my "combat training," I can pretty much predict what Jay's dad will do. Should the police come and take his license (APS will not), dad will get upset and lash out and sulk for a very short while. Then, he will go and drive. Taking the tag off the car will work for a short time too. Even though dad is cognitive about putting the tag back on to go somewhere, dad or some other person will come up with the idea to take a piece of cardboard, get a black marker, put on the cardboard "lost tag" and the tag number (from registration), put the tag in the back window and drive off.

Disabling the car will result in dad getting it fixed. From what Jay76 stated, dad has all the keys to the truck Perhaps if dad leaves the truck open, Jay can install one of those steering wheel locks. Go get one today, Jay. Boy, will dad be furious!! And, make that call to APS today.

 

[BlondiePB]

Originally Posted by Jay76
Mother lives under my roof also.

She may also need a competency evaluation.

Neither has one penny invested in my home btw but do contribute somewhat to their keep here.

Should one of both of them be declared incompetent and you acquire guardianship, you can deal with that then.

She nags etc. from sun-up till she falls asleep....

The days that she doesn't is a sign that she's not feeling well and may need to see a physician.

I won't call APS that you mentioned today .....

You really MUST call APS today. Get things rolling!!

...he is also talking about dropping his great coverage which he can easily afford to go to a little cheaper HMO or something like that.

Without knowing his current plan, this may or may not be another competent decision.

 

[Jay76]

If I install one of those steering wheel locks can the vehicle still be towed and the lock then cut off by whomever? If so, why bother wasting the money and doing that?

I talked to three different law officers today and all said they do not send officers to the house to take away a license and therefore if he continues to drive under a suspended license & is caught then he will just have to suffer the consequences. So, I have just about decided to take the plate myself tonight and remove some fuses and maybe even let the air out of the tires and of course talk/argue with him etc.......I had wanted to stay out of it as much as possible but doesn't look like I will be able to?

Wasn't able to call APS today but plan on doing so soon, as soon as I find out more about them and about this & that before jumping in blindly with two feet. I am one who kinda needs to research out things somewhat first.

Yes mother is basically incompetent too but at least she isn't out on the road posing any potential problems for innocent people. I don't think I could put her through that though, him yes.

 

[rmet4nzkx]

Perhaps you can call the DMV and have the same people come by as tried to get him to go to get his medical exam come get his license. Write on the steering wheel lock in permenant marker, driver has no license do not fix car!

You don't have to check out APS just call them.

 

[Jay76]

Ok rmet4nzkx,

I will call them too tomorrow and ask them for advice but I don't think they will do anything either, if my hunch is right?

Sorry but yes I do have to find out all I can about APS (I didn't mean check to see if they are legit etc. as I'm sure they are etc.) .......I just need to know (in advance) what each step I will need to take with them and the consequences of each step before I take it, for the welfare of everyone involved. I just don't ask for advice here or anywhere and blindly run out the door and do what I am told by whomever. I check out what I'm told first and then implement it or act on it or ignore it. ..........I do however appreciate the time etc. that all of you are putting into this and I thank you once again for all your ideas & suggestions..

Do you think that writing that on the steering wheel lock is going to stop a tow truck driver in my area from towing the vehicle, I don't think so?? I was thinking of maybe driving his vehicle into the garage and keeping it locked up in there. What do y'all think about that idea?


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Perhaps you can call the DMV and have the same people come by as tried to get him to go to get his medical exam come get his license. Write on the steering wheel lock in permenant marker, driver has no license do not fix car!

You don't have to check out APS just call them.

 

[rmet4nzkx]

Putting it in the garage sounds like a plan kind of hard for them to tow it if you lock both the truck and the garage and the garage is yours you could also get an igniction interupt installed and keep the key.

Usually APS which is a part of Florida Department of Elder Affairs
http://elderaffairs.state.fl.us/
How can the Statewide Public Guardianship Office Help You? The Statewide Public Guardianship Office, housed within the Department of Elder Affairs, appoints local offices as directed by statute to provide guardianship services to persons who do not have adequate income or assets to afford a private guardian and there is no willing family or friend to serve. SPGO is also reponsible for the registration of Professional Guardians.

For more information , please call either SPGO at (850) 414-2381or 414-2000. To speak with a Public Guardian in your area , you may contact any of the local offices of public guardian throughout Florida. You may also contact the Elder Help Line in your area by calling 1-800-963-5337.

 

[Jay76]

Can't lock the truck, he has additional keys I'm sure. Yes, I can lock MY garage, he does not have a key for that. It is MY house (remember) not his or hers, no part of it. They only contribute to their keep here but own no part of the property or actual house.

BUT (hmmmmmm) can I in any way be accused of stealing his truck even if it is in my garage locked up and he knows about it??? With todays laws I am just not sure what is technically legal & what is not?

So does anyone ELSE second the motion of locking the truck in the garage in the morning?

 

[rmet4nzkx]

He has no license, you contacted the police, they know he has no license, if he complains they will check his license, it is not abuse you are acting accordance with public policy, you have it safe from Hurricane damage, right?
Contact the public guardian's office and they will walk you through the process so there will be no accusations. He is full of pi_ _ and vinigar uh?

 

[Jay76]

He has a license but suspended according to Tallahassee, over the phone. (Just being technical now)

The police do not "KNOW" his license is suspended, they just heard me say so over the phone & 1 in person heard it from me...... Seems like they could care less to check as they don't go to collect it.

Yeah, safe from possible Hurricane damage, safer anyway than if it was outside.

As I said, before I contact anyone I need to find out more about the steps before I jump in and start to take them. I'll try calling in the next day or two but will try to remain anonymous until I know what I am about to do.

I'm surprised I am hearing nothing from others who may know about all this? There has got to be others on here who went thru what I am going thru, at least with a similar case other than Blondie of course who has been very helpful so far.

Yes, you hit the nail on the head: He is full of pis_ & vinegar.

He has no license, you contacted the police, they know he has no license, if he complains they will check his license, it is not abuse you are acting accordance with public policy, you have it safe from Hurricane damage, right?
Contact the public guardian's office and they will walk you through the process so there will be no accusations. He is full of pi_ _ and vinigar uh?