Ex is asking for support modification...

[Skooter95]

shouldn't you be grateful??

QUOTE "But the funny thing is-- he is having his employer take an extra $25 out of his check for support ..and that's great for me & my kids..but I would think that might show the judge that he can obviously "afford" to pay his current $130/wk. since he is paying an extra $25 each week when he doesn't even have to be! Would anyone agree with me on that?" END QUOTE


INgrl31.....my question to you is shouldn't you be happy that he is finally paying you back child support? It seems to me that instead of you being grateful you are receiving the EXTRA $25.00 our of his check every payday, you instead are trying to get more money out of him. Seems like he's trying in my opinion. And no i'm not a stepmother that married a father who owes child support. I PAY child support and do not in the least think he's right for getting so far behind but the point is, he's paying you back now so be thankful.

 

[INgrl31]

actually I am not asking for MORE support from him...I only want to keep it at the amount that the court already set... my point in saying that he is paying an extra $25 is that he is asking for his support obligation to be lowered and I would think that if it was too much of a hardship to pay the $130 a wk. then how is he able to pay the extra $25 when it's not even court ordered . Obviously he did not pay any of his support for many years as he is currently more then $15,000 in arrears...

 

[Skooter95]

Sorry I misinterpreted what you had said about asking for more support. I didn't know he was asking for it to be lowered, but maybe one of the reasons is because he is so far behind that if it was lowered, he feels he could pay you back quicker?? Just an idea and i'm not trying to defend him just trying to figure this out.

 

[gateach]

Re: Uh NO that is not true!!!

Please know what you are talking about before trying to give me your two cents!! [/B]

I believe the sarcasm began here. Name calling is not necessary, but do not let your emotions get the best of you when people don't tell you what you want to hear. Advice is just that .. advice. It may not be what we want to hear, but you also do not have to take it. People give advice based on their own personal experiences, experiences of people they know, or knowledge they may have attained through books.
I have received many student loans to pay for college tuition over the years. The checks always went directly to the school, but I do know other people who requested more money than they needed for books and tuition. They used this money to "live off of" while they were in school so that they wouldn't have to work. The money IS a loan, not a wage. Many of them are in financial trouble now because they are having to pay back the loans. One or two have filed bankruptcy, BUT their child support and the student loans were not wiped out by the bankruptcy.
As I said earlier, advice is personal.
How old is the father? Has he decided to go to college as a 30+ student or is he younger than 25?

 

[Bre's_mom]

yeah there's always atleast two idiots in every bunch!!
Anyone else wanna get on my "ignore" list?!! LOL

Don't EVEN go there, I am not the idiot, you are, don't try denying it...You think your so funny, well YOUR NOT!
Even if your ex is behind in support,(yes that's not good) but he's paying now, and he's going to college to better himself, so why not agree to it being lowered while he's in college, do you not realize that when he's done with college, he'll be making lots of money, which means you will get more money?(and you seem pretty money hungry, Don't you have a good job?, cause if you did you would'nt be so worried about the support being reduced, unless your a greedy bitch ) And if you did agree to it, it can be stated in the new order, that this is only while he's attending college. And here's something I'd like to know, I thought you were not going to reply to this post anymore, and you did Your acting like a child. Grow up.

 

[CMSC]

well Grace_adler what i said was "most" ppl who have replied..I never said "all" nor did I say "you grace_adler" now did i??? why so defensive anyway??!!

I came here to ask a question & was in turn attacked by some NCP & new wives...which I did not deserve... I did not come here to fight & argue with immature unintelligent ppl....now I did not say I am talking about you..but ...IF THE SHOE FITS WEAR IT GRACE_ADLER !!!!!!

So that said...I will not respond to anymore of these rude posts of yours or anyone elses as far as that goes !

SKANK ALERT, SKANK ALERT!!!!!!

I really don't think you are prepared enough to deal with the people on here. Nor are you mature enough, your attack of Grace, says it all.

You get $520/month for 2 children and another poster on this thread gets $900 and you all say that isn't enough? Get another job! Crap! I get $34.62/week for two children COMBINED and that is only when CSE gets off their ass!! I have yet to scrounge and hunt and beg and plead to see what all my ex "may" own or what money he "may" have coming in!

You are remarried, spend your time and energy on that marriage!

 

[Grace_Adler]

Yeah that's what I'm talking about!

Gee, do you think we'll ever be able to go on that European Vacation? We're getting closer. You're up to how much now? LOL That $34.62 might just be enough.

Oh no, we have another skank or troll? *slaps forehead*

Thank you Bre's and ryry's mom.

It also seems mighty funny that all the rest of us on here are on the same page. Don't you just love the newbies (no offense to the others) that come on here and assume you are attacking them just because of one little statement they misinterpret and starting shooting off their mouth without bothering to verify it? Then they start adding all this crap to it that doesn't have anything to do with what you're talking about. Damn, where is BLCM's thread to new posters? LOL

*scratches head, shrugs shoulders and sighs* I'll just never understand some people.

QUOTE]Originally posted by INgrl31
yeah there's always atleast two idiots in every bunch!!
Anyone else wanna get on my "ignore" list?!! LOL [/QUOTE]

Oh really? You and who else? Nevermind, I can pick several on the forum, none of which are on this thread. In fact, I haven't seen them around in a while.

Well at least I'm on your "ignore" list. That is a bit more good news.

 

[Thumbelina58]

Ingrl31....... I live in IN.... I married a man.....

who was previously married to someone JUST like YOU. No wait, gotta give you credit- she was WORSE!! We CURRENTLY pay 1000.00 a month in support for ONE friggin child who, for TWO years did not even LIVE WITH THE MOTHER!!! YES, my husband made a HUGE mistake, married a NUT case, adopted HER 4 children, who, by the way, ALL left HER home less than a month after HE did..... who are all under the age of 21 and EACH have at least 2 children. ( 7 children w/ 3 more on the way) YET, this woman WANTS MORE in support, because everytime she gets a windfall (her mothers' death, income tax refund) she goes BEYOND her means- buys a new car, house, computer system, and then GUESS WHAT- refuses to get a JOB to make the payments on them!! Instead, she dogs out my husband because HE doesn't pay her enough to sit on her ass and keep the things she put down payments on!!! What REALLY REALLY pisses me off is that my husband WORKS his ass off. Takes EVERY class he can take, goes to every workshop he can, to make himself better at a skill he has been doing for less than 4 years. (retired from the Military at a different occupation) and yet, she HAS REFUSED to accept jobs that were handed to her, with NO interview, even!! Point being, the more HE makes- the more SHE is entitled to recieve!!!!!
and, of course, the MORE SHE EXPECTS!! You must be her clone! He is TRYING to better himself, as he well should be. He made a new life.. while she dwells on her "wonderful life" with him before he abandoned her.... even though SHE filed for divorce, and expects him to pay for HER until their daughter turns 18. ALL THE WHILE, mind you, refusing to let him know where their daughter is- because, er, she's in the "witness protection program". ARE YOU HER????????

 

[CMSC]

Yeah that's what I'm talking about!

Gee, do you think we'll ever be able to go on that European Vacation? We're getting closer. You're up to how much now? LOL That $34.62 might just be enough.

well considering I haven't gotten any in 8 weeks I don't think it will be of much use!LOL

 

[OnlyOneVoice]

Correct me if I'm wrong but for something to be classified as income it must fit IRS guidelines as income so unfortunately no

Grants in aid and loans for school aren't classified as income and are not required reporting as income.

So no you can't get a percentage of his grants because those were given for a specific purpose and are not guaranteed for any specific amount of time.

I know you're frustrated and I know you probably need more money but you won't be able to get it by petitioning for modification based on his "grants and student loans".

I would however petition the courts to do something to enforce the repayment of his arrears.

 

[INgrl31]

Ahh..once again the "new" wife speaks...get over it lady..no one told you that you had to marry a man with an ex & kids...
You ppl are ridiculous...I AM NOT ASKING FOR MORE CHILD SUPPORT MONEY....DO YOU NOT HEAR MEEEEE??????
Your obviously on the OTHER side of my situation..and believe me if you were on this side you would be trying to keep your c.s. coming in too..especially if you had not received any help financially from the father in more then 9 yrs !!!!
I don't expect any of the NCP's or the "new wives" to understand where I am coming from because you can't see passed your own hatefullness to actually put your self in anyone else's shoes! In your eyes the ex wives are the ones who are taking your money every week..WELL DEAL WITH IT !!!

 

[INgrl31]

Onlyonevoice.....I think you probably missed the first post I made (I know there have been quite a few & really too many to read) But anyway, I am not asking for more money...my ex has petitioned the court for a modification..I am only trying to keep the money that was previously ordered...

 

[haiku]

OK fine, but heres the deal, if it is proven on his part he is making subtantially less, through no fault of his own, and it meets the guidelines for a reduction, he can get it.

the child support is based on income only. so pushing to use grants or things he chooses to have "put aside" in his check won't work, as bottom line it is about his income. when you go to court you want all his income records and bank statements. And also be prepared to show your own!


(in any case I highly reccomend you consult with a lawyer, and I hope you listen to what they have to say, because it is alot easier to hear things you don't want to hear on a message board than it is in person.)

 

[nextwife]

" ....HE is the one that has contracted with the original owners...I know that with a contract home it would prob. be hard to prove (or impossible) any equity in the home since he is not the actual owner..but these homes are being used as rentals so he is making some money off of them each month.."


Just so that you can potentially get past this presumption/ concern, you can do the following:

go to the county courthouse and research
a) WHO is in title.
b) If the current owner obtained a purchase money mortgage at the time of the transfer, because that would mean that NO, there is no land contract sale with the original owners, even an unrecorded one as they were paid in full when it closed. Get a copy of any and all open mortgages. You can also discover if any prior mortgages to the previous owner were satisfied. Get a copy of the tax bill. IN many areas, the last deed will contain the tax stamps or data needed to extrapolate the purchase price.
c) Do the math. Calculate, based upon the mortgage, how much the payments, including P&I, property taxes, property insurance, sewer charges, lawn cutting, snow plowing, lighting, heat and AC for common areas, general maintenance and reserve for major repairs (such as eventual roof & furnace replacement). And the amount of DP needed to make up the difference. Now deduct out the likely rent, remembering that some owners may still be living out the balance of a lease done before the previous ownership and not yet up to market rents

You will likely discover that whoever IS the owner is getting no cash flow yet from this ownership. Down the line they will, but most multifamilies bought at current market values do not cash flow right away, as the owner paid market value, and rents often lag behind. EVEN if you are correct, and somehow, despite ALL legal evidence to the contrary, he DOES have a contract to eventually own them, via a purchase arrangement with his mom, there is likely no income as yet.

 

[jeanine]

This is the most entertaining thread I've read in a long, long time.