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BeckLee

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What is the name of your state?What is the name of your state?CALIFORNIA.
what does it mean in regards to one of the codes (penal code i think)where it says "no child shall be placed in a vehicle for transportation with one convicted of crime'? I am assuming this to mean that if an individual is convicted of a crime such as felony DUI, he is disqualified to ever be in the same vehicle as a child under the ages of 14/16, let alone to be the actual driver of said vehicle? Part of consequence i would think for past bad acts. seems fitting if it is this way. Your Response, Time, is appreciated, BeckLee.
being logical is no defense to nonsense, and to make sense of no sense is to discriminate? >>had to add that as i see on everyones post a bit of add-ons to the bottom.
 


JETX

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BeckLee said:
what does it mean in regards to one of the codes (penal code i think)where it says "no child shall be placed in a vehicle for transportation with one convicted of crime'? I am assuming this to mean that if an individual is convicted of a crime such as felony DUI, he is disqualified to ever be in the same vehicle as a child under the ages of 14/16, let alone to be the actual driver of said vehicle? Part of consequence i would think for past bad acts. seems fitting if it is this way. Your Response, Time, is appreciated, BeckLee.
being logical is no defense to nonsense, and to make sense of no sense is to discriminate? >>had to add that as i see on everyones post a bit of add-ons to the bottom.
Your question is overly broad and vague.
What EXACTLY is it you are looking for.... and what are the DETAILS??
 

Shay-Pari'e

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BeckLee said:
What is the name of your state?What is the name of your state?CALIFORNIA.
what does it mean in regards to one of the codes (penal code i think)where it says "no child shall be placed in a vehicle for transportation with one convicted of crime'?I certainly know this answer, but after reading your post I do not feel comfortable responding to that.

I am assuming this to mean that if an individual is convicted of a crime such as felony DUI, he is disqualified to ever be in the same vehicle as a child under the ages of 14/16, let alone to be the actual driver of said vehicle? Again, where are you comming from? Do you normally transport teenagers? And why? The only time someone is "Disqualified" from driving a vehicle with kids, is if he is a registered sex offender, or a repeated DUI case.

Part of consequence i would think for past bad acts. seems fitting if it is this way. Your Response, Time, is appreciated, BeckLee.
being logical is no defense to nonsense, and to make sense of no sense is to discriminate? >>had to add that as i see on everyones post a bit of add-ons to the bottom.


That is a "Sig line", and you make no sense.
 
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CdwJava

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BeckLee said:
What is the name of your state?What is the name of your state?CALIFORNIA.
what does it mean in regards to one of the codes (penal code i think)where it says "no child shall be placed in a vehicle for transportation with one convicted of crime'? I am assuming this to mean that if an individual is convicted of a crime such as felony DUI, he is disqualified to ever be in the same vehicle as a child under the ages of 14/16, let alone to be the actual driver of said vehicle? Part of consequence i would think for past bad acts. seems fitting if it is this way. Your Response, Time, is appreciated, BeckLee.
being logical is no defense to nonsense, and to make sense of no sense is to discriminate? >>had to add that as i see on everyones post a bit of add-ons to the bottom.

I have never heard of this ... where are you getting this from? That wording does not sound familiar, and does not match and Penal Code section I could find doing a search of my electronic penal code.

- Carl
 

JETX

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CdwJava said:
I have never heard of this ... where are you getting this from? That wording does not sound familiar, and does not match and Penal Code section I could find doing a search of my electronic penal code.
I agree.... and therefore my previous post.
 

Shay-Pari'e

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Her post sounded so "OFF", I wasn't going to say there isn't a code like that. I'm left to wonder if there is a court order in place here. Strange post all the way around.
 
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BeckLee

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Felony DUI

A signature line eh? ok ok ok. some of those signature lines have pulled a smile out of me. alrighty then. My question was that of " an individual has felony conviction of DUI etc..is he disqualified to be in the same vehicle that children are in? I am not the one to have a conviction such as that. My record is clean back there. I have 6 little girls. My relationship with the first 5 daughters is with/of the same man,17 yrs. my youngest is with my second relationship.I am, unfortunatly, finding out his past (other then what he filled me in about). I was reading penal codes for a reason, and yes what i put in my first post is there somewhere in the california codes. I was asking for distinguishment of, meaning. does it pertain to a "regular vehicle" or one such as a "prisoner's transportation vehicle". Can my daughter's travel in the same vehicle with him since he has conviction of crime within the past 5 years? would he be breaking part of probation rules? part of the consequences of drinking, and driving. I want to know, otherwise i would be "failing to protect my daughters" in allowing him to "drive" or be" in the vehicle" with us. sad, but true how one's past acts can disqualify from enjoying things others take for granted. He wont fill in details of his probation for my knowledge to be complete, so ive been put into training until i have full knowledge to go forward freely in that area of our lives. God says trust no one also. its ok with me reading your responses. I can relate. back to the signature conversation. to "make sense out of nonsense is to discriminate", also being logical is no defense for nonsense. We train people how to be by the way we treat them along the way.
 

TYRIS

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BeckLee said:
A signature line eh? ok ok ok. some of those signature lines have pulled a smile out of me. alrighty then. My question was that of " an individual has felony conviction of DUI etc..is he disqualified to be in the same vehicle that children are in? I am not the one to have a conviction such as that. My record is clean back there. I have 6 little girls. My relationship with the first 5 daughters is with/of the same man,17 yrs. my youngest is with my second relationship.I am, unfortunatly, finding out his past (other then what he filled me in about). I was reading penal codes for a reason, and yes what i put in my first post is there somewhere in the california codes. I was asking for distinguishment of, meaning. does it pertain to a "regular vehicle" or one such as a "prisoner's transportation vehicle". Can my daughter's travel in the same vehicle with him since he has conviction of crime within the past 5 years? would he be breaking part of probation rules? part of the consequences of drinking, and driving. I want to know, otherwise i would be "failing to protect my daughters" in allowing him to "drive" or be" in the vehicle" with us. sad, but true how one's past acts can disqualify from enjoying things others take for granted. He wont fill in details of his probation for my knowledge to be complete, so ive been put into training until i have full knowledge to go forward freely in that area of our lives. God says trust no one also. its ok with me reading your responses. I can relate. back to the signature conversation. to "make sense out of nonsense is to discriminate", also being logical is no defense for nonsense. We train people how to be by the way we treat them along the way.



-as Carl stated before, I have never heard of a law not allowing a subject with a felony conviction for "DUI.. etc" to be in a vehicle with minors.

If you remember the code section you read, please post it so we can give you a better interpretation of the law.

The only law I know of that is close to what your speaking of has to do with an in custody adult being not being transported with a an in custody minor. But that is an in custody law and has nothing to do with personal vehicles.

Tyris
 

Shay-Pari'e

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BeckLee said:
A signature line eh? ok ok ok. some of those signature lines have pulled a smile out of me. alrighty then. My question was that of " an individual has felony conviction of DUI etc..is he disqualified to be in the same vehicle that children are in? NO


I am not the one to have a conviction such as that. My record is clean back there. I have 6 little girls. My relationship with the first 5 daughters is with/of the same man,17 yrs. my youngest is with my second relationship.I am, unfortunatly, finding out his past (other then what he filled me in about). I was reading penal codes for a reason, and yes what i put in my first post is there somewhere in the california codes. I was asking for distinguishment of, meaning. does it pertain to a "regular vehicle" or one such as a "prisoner's transportation vehicle"You lost me again! :rolleyes:


Can my daughter's travel in the same vehicle with him since he has conviction of crime within the past 5 years? would he be breaking part of probation rules? And what ARE the rules of his probation?

part of the consequences of drinking, and driving. I want to know, otherwise i would be "failing to protect my daughters" in allowing him to "drive" or be" in the vehicle" with us. Does he still have a license to drive? Geez, this is like pulling teeth!!! :eek:

sad, but true how one's past acts can disqualify from enjoying things others take for granted.Uh! NO!, he took for granted.


He wont fill in details of his probation for my knowledge to be complete, And neither can we, but then again we are not with the looser.


so ive been put into training until i have full knowledge to go forward freely in that area of our lives. You can't even figure out how to find out if he even has a license?

God says trust no one also. Ok, but this is not church.


its ok with me reading your responses. I can relate. back to the signature conversation. to "make sense out of nonsense is to discriminate", also being logical is no defense for nonsense. We train people how to be by the way we treat them along the way.
Ya, OK, whatever.


Honestly, I can't figure you out.
 
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BeckLee

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273b. No child under the age of 16 years shall be placed in any
courtroom, or in any vehicle for transportation to any place, in
company with adults charged with or convicted of crime, except in the
presence of a proper official.

like i asked before same as now again. what am i to derive this to mean exactly? any regular vehicle used to go to the store, for a drive along a country road, to the movies, etc,,, can my daughters be in the same vehicle as the one convicted of crime? they are all under the ages of 16. irish sense of humour... maybe we will have to put him in the trunk, tie him to the hood of vehicle so on and so forth? or just forget about him and his past deeds i should have known about from the beginning. information like that lets a lady know she should not be considering his resume. Beck.
 

JETX

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BeckLee said:
Yes I Do Know What I Am Talking About.
No you don't. The statute you referenced (from Ca Penal Code) is under "of Crimes against the person involving sexual assault, and crimes against public decency and morals".
Simply, it does NOT apply to someone who has been charged or even convicted of DUI.

Presumably, you have a hair up your ass about someone (probably an ex-boyfriend or ex-husband) who happens to have a DUI against him..... and you are trying to come up with some ludicrous excuse to prohibit him from seeing his child.

Your misapplication of the statute simply will not work. An example of a proper application of this code section would be if someone were to place a juvenile into a vehicle (say transporting prisoners to the courthouse) with a pedophile...... unless escorted by a deputy or other official.
 
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BeckLee

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The only time someone is "Disqualified" from driving a vehicle with kids, is if he is a registered sex offender, or a repeated DUI case.



paradise, you answered in part before. now you are attempted to trip me up some with name calling here....why is that?

273b. No child under the age of 16 years shall be placed in any
courtroom, or in any vehicle for transportation to any place, in
company with adults charged with or convicted of crime, except in the
presence of a proper official.

upon reading this penal code i sat back to questioning if its OK for him to be driving us around at any time. pretty simple question there.
paradise.......?
why are posting response to me in THIS FORUM? move over please i need my elbow room.
 
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