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You don't need an attorney for a restraining order but you do need a sympathetic judge. If the b/f has not "hurt" the child and or threatened to hurt ncp or the child it may be tricky but if he has even threatened to hurt the NCP or the child then NCp files for a restraining order listing the minor child as a person protected under the order then have the b/f served the second he is served he cannot be within 150 feet of the child so be prepared and call the police everytime you know he is within the 150 feet then take CP to Court for allowing this be sure to list NCPs address and CPs address and the school/day care as places he cannot go. The existence of the other child probably won't help you but when CP gets a clue (if ever she will be complaining that he is too violent to be with his child I'm sure :rolleyes: ) How recent is the most recent charge and for what?
 


lonelyandsad said:
the crimnal record of your fiance's ex is none of your business.butt out and stop being so nosy.

:eek: WRONG!!!! If any person is living with your child you have EVERY RIGHT and RESPONSIBILITY to KNOW who that person is and what they are doing or have done. If ALL the felonies were 5 to 10 years ago I would also say let it go but felony drug charges less than a year old would you let your child live there?
 

rmet4nzkx

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I already told you what to do, who to call and you could have done that without bothering your friend, I think you are getting something else out of it.
 
wrongo!

his fiance's ex's criminal record is not his business.as another poster stated,hes a legal stranger to the kids,and is not a party to the custody or visitaion.this is between his fiance and her ex,not him.a judge might not take too kindly to his meddling.
 
rmet4nzkx said:
I already told you what to do, who to call and you could have done that without bothering your friend, I think you are getting something else out of it.
And please tell me what that something else may be. AGAIN, I am not asking for your advice. For the THIRD time I am ONLY gaining information that will help us and that innocent child. Please butt out and let me do what I need to do in order to take care of my family! You mean to tell me that if you were in our shoes 13 felonies would not upset you?
 
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lonelyandsad said:
his fiance's ex's criminal record is not his business.as another poster stated,hes a legal stranger to the kids,and is not a party to the custody or visitaion.this is between his fiance and her ex,not him.a judge might not take too kindly to his meddling.

He is quite obviuosly on here to help out his fiance as am I. No it is not directly HIS business but if he is helping his fiance by finding this information and then passing the info on for fiance to use it appropriately there is nothing wrong with that either. How will the judge know WHO found the records the judge needs to know that the records exist this could put the child in danger. He is not claiming he is going to run to the judge and say look what I found! Please give up the technicalities b/c we all know including the poster that this is a battle to be fought by the NCP against the CP and the OP is only helping NCP.
 
Chelle0511 said:
And please tell me what that something else may be. AGAIN, I am not asking for your advice. For the THIRD time I am ONLY gaining information that will help us and that innocent child. Please butt out and let me do what I need to do in order to take care of my family! You mean to tell me that if you were in our shoes 13 felonies would not updet you?

My suggestion---ignore this poster in this circumstance. You find out as much as you can to protect that child. But in order to make the upset poster happy I just want to be sure that you understand this is a fight for the NCP to fight IN COURT, out of court you can help all you want, (but I wouldn't recommend talking to the CP it usually upsets them more) I think that what you are doing to help is great and probably very much needed. A lot of NCP get sooooo upset and frustrated with the system that they need the extra help to see that they can protect their child and have a healthy relationship with their child despite some bad outcomes in Court.
 

rmet4nzkx

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Chelle0511 said:
And please tell me what that something else may be. AGAIN, I am not asking for your advice. For the THIRD time I am ONLY gaining information that will help us and that innocent child. Please butt out and let me do what I need to do in order to take care of my family! You mean to tell me that if you were in our shoes 13 felonies would not upset you?
rmet4nzkx said:
:confused: You are a legal stranger to those children ... If you are concerned about the children being in the presense of a felon, call CPS, it is not your duty to investigate, they could take action against you for harassment.
If you had called CPS this morning, you would not have had to do another thing, THEY would have investigated it. So that is what you would do if you wanted to take care of the children, instead, you dug up thinks to stir things up between your fiance and his ex, it has nothing to do about the child. :rolleyes:
 

rmet4nzkx

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SMURFEELAW said:
My suggestion---ignore this poster in this circumstance. You find out as much as you can to protect that child. But in order to make the upset poster happy I just want to be sure that you understand this is a fight for the NCP to fight IN COURT, out of court you can help all you want, (but I wouldn't recommend talking to the CP it usually upsets them more) I think that what you are doing to help is great and probably very much needed. A lot of NCP get sooooo upset and frustrated with the system that they need the extra help to see that they can protect their child and have a healthy relationship with their child despite some bad outcomes in Court.
Gee you didn't feel that way when I was helping you get custody and helping you through the proceedures last summer? Offering you encouragment. OP has more than one agenda here and avoiding what needs to be done in favor of attention.
 
Chelle0511 said:
You know what I have a question for you.
1. Who are you to judge me?
and 2. Why do you have to be so rude? Do you have nothing better to do than sit here all day and give those that are obviously already having a difficult time a little more "stress". I am only here to gain knowledge in our journey to make sure that a child grows up with stability and love! An attorney is more that we can afford at this present time as it is obviously the same with 90% of the other people that post messages on this sight! I posted my question in a new thread just as you asked! The reason that I do not like to post it in one that I started previously is that I find it hard to get a response. People are more interested in the "current". And as far as stepping back, I am only doing what he has asked since his job does not give him constant access to the web as mine does!
and finally, 3. Do you own this message board?

Now if there is anyone out there that may be able to give me a link that I can find the information that I need, it would be greatly appreciated!


Thats 3 questions!
 
AisforApple said:
there is only one way to find out,
call the court house and ask them.
for best results....
be very polite and conservative
Just to be polite..its banana...not being a smarty pants...just thought it might be a typo.. ;)
 
rmet4nzkx said:
Gee you didn't feel that way when I was helping you get custody and helping you through the proceedures last summer? Offering you encouragment. OP has more than one agenda here and avoiding what needs to be done in favor of attention.

As I said in this circumstance. I certainly appreciated everyones help. I'm not sure if this situation is a touchy one for you but that is exactly what I did. That was the straw that broke the camels back and I got all the information from online and through police and court records handed them over to my fiance and he filed for custody and he got it. Exs b/f also had drug charges and more specifically DV issues with ex. That was enough to get the restraining order and eventually custody with supervised visitation. If I could have afforded it I would have hired a PI to stalk and take pictures of Ex and bf in order to guarantee the childas safety. If your ex or someone close to you ever misused info I am sorry but this case I believe calls for a little detective work and that is all the poster is doing. CPS wouldn't help my fiance we tried that and they warned ex they were coming so all was fine. He had to have the 5 inch thick police reports and pictures to even get the judge to open his eyes.

Again I did not mean to offend you, I do appreciaite all your help as I'm sure others do, but in this case I disagree with your advice and it was only upsetting the OP a childs safety could be in the balance.
 

rmet4nzkx

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SMURFEELAW said:
As I said in this circumstance. I certainly appreciated everyones help. I'm not sure if this situation is a touchy one for you but that is exactly what I did. That was the straw that broke the camels back and I got all the information from online and through police and court records handed them over to my fiance and he filed for custody and he got it. Exs b/f also had drug charges and more specifically DV issues with ex. That was enough to get the restraining order and eventually custody with supervised visitation. If I could have afforded it I would have hired a PI to stalk and take pictures of Ex and bf in order to guarantee the childas safety. If your ex or someone close to you ever misused info I am sorry but this case I believe calls for a little detective work and that is all the poster is doing. CPS wouldn't help my fiance we tried that and they warned ex they were coming so all was fine. He had to have the 5 inch thick police reports and pictures to even get the judge to open his eyes.

Again I did not mean to offend you, I do appreciaite all your help as I'm sure others do, but in this case I disagree with your advice and it was only upsetting the OP a childs safety could be in the balance.
The point is with custody fights things get nasty and if people like OP get carried away, they can adversely affect the case, that is why it is best to report it to CPS, let them do their work, first and go from there. They would have checked the criminal records, it involves more than the child OP is interested in. In most cases CPS goes unannounced. Going the way OP is going they might get a restraining order against her. Felons do have some rights, let CPS determine what is in the best interest of the children. If OP had called CPS this morning, and found the record of felonies, they may have taken action already, if there was an immediate danger. All OP has done is get a lot of peole giving her sympathy and attention. She admits that some of the animosity is because she comes along on visitation, even though she sits in the car. As I said, OP has more than one agenda and it doesn't appear that the best welfare of the children is first no matter what she says. I know these things because of being a mandated reporter, investigation in meant for CPS, not OP.
 
rmet4nzkx said:
The point is with custody fights things get nasty and if people like OP get carried away, they can adversely affect the case, that is why it is best to report it to CPS, let them do their work, first and go from there. They would have checked the criminal records, it involves more than the child OP is interested in. In most cases CPS goes unannounced. Going the way OP is going they might get a restraining order against her. Felons do have some rights, let CPS determine what is in the best interest of the children. If OP had called CPS this morning, and found the record of felonies, they may have taken action already, if there was an immediate danger. All OP has done is get a lot of peole giving her sympathy and attention. She admits that some of the animosity is because she comes along on visitation, even though she sits in the car. As I said, OP has more than one agenda and it doesn't appear that the best welfare of the children is first no matter what she says. I know these things because of being a mandated reporter, investigation in meant for CPS, not OP.
First of all I am a female and my fiance is the childs father. As far as CPS (DCFS here), we did call them 2 yrs ago when the CP was living with the b/f(felon). Not because of him but because of the way the the CP lives and cares for the child. DCFS did nothing. They told my fiance that as long as she had a roof over her head, clothes on her back, food in her stomach, and was not being abused, there was nothing that we could do. So tell me please what the point of calling them again is. Also since my life interest you in such a way... the reason that I ride along is because it is 1 hr. and 15 mintues and away and my family if from that town as well. We usually pick up his daughter every other weekend and then go to my families for dinner, or his families that lives 20 minutes from there. That is why I ride along. How can she put a restraining order against me, have I proved to be a threat to her? Nope, and I don't go on her property we park on the street. Plus if you knew this freak multi personalitied CP, half the time she comes to the car window to see NCP's(and mine) baby. So if you think a dirtbag that lives on welfare and child support, lives with a felon, and denies her child's father visitation because it makes her feel good, then more power to you. Sorry not my idea of a parent and I intend in helping my fiance do something about it.

P.S. We did make an apt. to talk to an attorney next week, for your info. I wanted to discuss it with my fiance(since remember it is his daughter) before scheduling anything! We also will have the divorce agreement, b/f's criminal record, and child visitation interference law in hand when NCP tries to get the child. For those of you who do care, I will keep you posted!
 
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