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rmet4nzkx

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Chelle0511 said:
First of all I am a female and my fiance is the childs father.
I never said any different and I also said you are a legal stranger to the child and need to step back.

As far as CPS (DCFS here), we did call them 2 yrs ago when the CP was living with the b/f(felon). Not because of him but because of the way the the CP lives and cares for the child. DCFS did nothing. They told my fiance that as long as she had a roof over her head, clothes on her back, food in her stomach, and was not being abused, there was nothing that we could do. So tell me please what the point of calling them again is.
Because a lot of things have happened since tha time, and if they are really in any danger, you and or your fiance should have been calling them or taking the child to a doctor when you had the child for visitation.

Also since my life interest you in such a way... the reason that I ride along is because it is 1 hr. and 15 mintues and away and my family if from that town as well. We usually pick up his daughter every other weekend and then go to my families for dinner, or his families that lives 20 minutes from there. That is why I ride along.
That is fine, but drop you and your baby off before picking up the child and eliminate the drama between you and his ex.

How can she put a restraining order against me, have I proved to be a threat to her? Nope, and I don't go on her property we park on the street.
You better check out the things that can be considered harassment
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Plus if you knew this freak multi personalitied CP, half the time she comes to the car window to see NCP's(and mine) baby.
How is that a clinical sign of MPD?

So if you think a dirtbag that lives on welfare and child support, lives with a felon, and denies her child's father visitation because it makes her feel good, then more power to you.
I never said that.

Sorry not my idea of a parent and I intend in helping my fiance do something about it.
Then call CPS, If you take some time and look at other threads you will see one by MommieNE who is in a similar situation, only there is documentation of the abuse, she and the child's father followed the advice and now have custody of the child. Go ahead and read it and see if I'm picking on you, I gave you both the same advice, only she followed it.

P.S. We did make an apt. to talk to an attorney next week, for your info. I wanted to discuss it with my fiance(since remember it is his daughter) before scheduling anything! We also will have the divorce agreement, b/f's criminal record, and child visitation interference law in hand when NCP tries to get the child. For those of you who do care, I will keep you posted!
I care or I wouldn't take the time to post, I'm glad you two have an appointment with an attorney.
 


rmet4nzkx said:
I care or I wouldn't take the time to post, I'm glad you two have an appointment with an attorney.
Originally Posted by Chelle0511
First of all I am a female and my fiance is the childs father.
I never said any different and I also said you are a legal stranger to the child and need to step back.
~I was replying to everyone else saying "he" and "his". Legal stranger...yes. Step back...no, sorry I am not out of line. I refuse to have my fiance drive 15 minutes on the other side of town to drop me off for 2 reasons. 1. Not necessary, I sit in the car and keep my mouth shut. Never have I stepped out of line. and 2. If we are not there at 5:30 as ordered, she will not let us have the child. Keep in mind that we both leave work at 4:30 to even make it there at that time, also...if we are 2 (YES...2 minutes late) and she is having a bad day then she won't let us have the child and we made the trip to only be "let down".

Plus if you knew this freak multi personalitied CP, half the time she comes to the car window to see NCP's(and mine) baby.
How is that a clinical sign of MPD?
~Well if MPD is multi personalities then I was refering to her hating me one minute and kissing my ass the next.

How can she put a restraining order against me, have I proved to be a threat to her? Nope, and I don't go on her property we park on the street.
You better check out the things that can be considered harassment.
~Unless you are her in disguise there is nothing she can have against me for harrassment. I choose not to converse with her. Sorry, the sight of her toothless rotten mouth makes me ILL!

As far as CPS (DCFS here), we did call them 2 yrs ago when the CP was living with the b/f(felon). Not because of him but because of the way the the CP lives and cares for the child. DCFS did nothing. They told my fiance that as long as she had a roof over her head, clothes on her back, food in her stomach, and was not being abused, there was nothing that we could do. So tell me please what the point of calling them again is.
Because a lot of things have happened since that time, and if they are really in any danger, you and or your fiance should have been calling them or taking the child to a doctor when you had the child for visitation.

~What can a docotor due for filth, yes alot has happened. BUT...she still has a roof, food and clothes. And not abused. (Unless you consider living with a drunk felon who has possesed an illegal fire arm, burglarized, commited battery etc. abuse. Which they will not.

I do nothing in spite of that woman I want you to know. I have sat back and ignored her for 3 years, now I am just on the sidelines helping the ones that I love.

FYI: Keep in mind that this woman has:
Kept the child from us for... Bringing her home 4 minutes late, putting hairspray in her daughter's hair(we had family picutes), and dressing her too "preppy". Just to name a few.

I have tried time and time and time and time again to make this as easy on the child as possible. Hell, I bought her a new coat (since the mom spends child support on everything except clothes), and she sent it back the next week with a broken zipper and said that it was "broke". I once sent her home with new shoes because her toes were sticking out of the ends of hers and the mom sent them back the next week and said that they were too small. The kicker....she still weras those shoes here a year later and they fit just fine. SO, we bought a size bigger(which by the way were way too big) and the child came back the next week with the holey ones again. When her father asked her where her new shoes were, she said "mommy wont let me wear them cause they are ugly. They were adorable!
 
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styl4u64

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Is this last post just a 'joke'?? I'm serious, I have been reading all these posts and is this a serious post from the poster? Let me know??? :confused:
 

styl4u64

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4 minutes late, putting hairspray in her hair, 'dressing preppy' and then a whopping 'shoe fight'? Wow, I would LOVE for this to happen to me! These issues would be so much better than what I have! :eek:
 
styl4u64 said:
4 minutes late, putting hairspray in her hair, 'dressing preppy' and then a whopping 'shoe fight'? Wow, I would LOVE for this to happen to me! These issues would be so much better than what I have! :eek:
Yes, it wouldnt't be so bad if because of these things we have seen the child maybe 10 times out of the 26 we should have this year...
So tell me what is is that you have to deal with that is so bad?
 
stay out of it,its not your concern.

let the parents handle it,youre meddling in business thats no concern of yours,the child isnt yours.
 

Hisbabygirl77

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Lonelyandsad you have posted asking questions for your 14 year old brother why can't she also post asking questions for her BF. From what she has stated she has not gotten involved except to do research for him and there is no harm in that. I think a lot of us on here have posted asking questions for families or friends I know I have. Legally she is a stranger to the child correct. But as someone who loves the father she can research and try to help out that way. Shoot it helps a lot of "step" parents it is a way for them to help without stepping over the line. So back off lonely.
 
lonelyandsad said:
let the parents handle it,youre meddling in business thats no concern of yours,the child isnt yours.
Can you please tell me why it it that you are so concerened with "my meddling"? First of all, from the way it sounds you have plenty going on in your home, you really shouldn't be worrying about mine! I believe that this is a message board to get legal advice... so, let's see... did I ask for your advice? AGAIN, RESEARCH is all that I do. As well as be there for my fiance in his battle to be with his daughter. I believe that from the info. I have provided you with, you have no reason to tell me to butt out, I do believe that you should practice what you preach. So tell me how long did you know this "new guy" before marrying him? Oh yeah, by the way he is a legal stranger to your siblings, so maybe he shoudn't "play dad" until it is legal. Isn't that what you are preaching to me?? Enough time wasted on you... you better go fight the black cloud before it "gets ya!"

Now, for all of you that I promised to keep posted. IT was a long battle for the fiance this evening but we are now home safe with the daughter. Worked with a very helpful officer this evening! Met him at the station at 5:15, he followed us to CP's house. She was not there. NCP went back to the station and filed "contemt" with the officer. Since we had the visitation agreement this time he also filed for Christmas Eve. After filing we said that we would be in town for the next hour and he said that he would continue to patrol the area. An hour later she came home, he went back... after telling her of the charge and a little bit of threatening she agreed to let NCP have daughter. He called we met at station and she is now with us... YEAH, and thanks for all the support. The charge will still go to State's Attorney Monday and we will follow through just to get to court and do a little bit of modifications (traveling, time adjustments etc.) I will keep you all posted and thanks again!
 
id known stefan since he was in the 6th grade,so i know him pretty well.im sorry about implying that you were meddling,i know you only want whats best for this little girl.you love her,like my husband loves my sibs and my kids.good luck to all of you!
 

AHA

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Chelle0511 said:
Originally Posted by Chelle0511
First of all I am a female and my fiance is the childs father.
I never said any different and I also said you are a legal stranger to the child and need to step back.
~I was replying to everyone else saying "he" and "his". Legal stranger...yes. Step back...no, sorry I am not out of line. I refuse to have my fiance drive 15 minutes on the other side of town to drop me off for 2 reasons. 1. Not necessary, I sit in the car and keep my mouth shut. Never have I stepped out of line. and 2. If we are not there at 5:30 as ordered, she will not let us have the child. Keep in mind that we both leave work at 4:30 to even make it there at that time, also...if we are 2 (YES...2 minutes late) and she is having a bad day then she won't let us have the child and we made the trip to only be "let down".

Plus if you knew this freak multi personalitied CP, half the time she comes to the car window to see NCP's(and mine) baby.
How is that a clinical sign of MPD?
~Well if MPD is multi personalities then I was refering to her hating me one minute and kissing my ass the next.

How can she put a restraining order against me, have I proved to be a threat to her? Nope, and I don't go on her property we park on the street.
You better check out the things that can be considered harassment.
~Unless you are her in disguise there is nothing she can have against me for harrassment. I choose not to converse with her. Sorry, the sight of her toothless rotten mouth makes me ILL!

As far as CPS (DCFS here), we did call them 2 yrs ago when the CP was living with the b/f(felon). Not because of him but because of the way the the CP lives and cares for the child. DCFS did nothing. They told my fiance that as long as she had a roof over her head, clothes on her back, food in her stomach, and was not being abused, there was nothing that we could do. So tell me please what the point of calling them again is.
Because a lot of things have happened since that time, and if they are really in any danger, you and or your fiance should have been calling them or taking the child to a doctor when you had the child for visitation.

~What can a docotor due for filth, yes alot has happened. BUT...she still has a roof, food and clothes. And not abused. (Unless you consider living with a drunk felon who has possesed an illegal fire arm, burglarized, commited battery etc. abuse. Which they will not.

I do nothing in spite of that woman I want you to know. I have sat back and ignored her for 3 years, now I am just on the sidelines helping the ones that I love.

FYI: Keep in mind that this woman has:
Kept the child from us for... Bringing her home 4 minutes late, putting hairspray in her daughter's hair(we had family picutes), and dressing her too "preppy". Just to name a few.

I have tried time and time and time and time again to make this as easy on the child as possible. Hell, I bought her a new coat (since the mom spends child support on everything except clothes), and she sent it back the next week with a broken zipper and said that it was "broke". I once sent her home with new shoes because her toes were sticking out of the ends of hers and the mom sent them back the next week and said that they were too small. The kicker....she still weras those shoes here a year later and they fit just fine. SO, we bought a size bigger(which by the way were way too big) and the child came back the next week with the holey ones again. When her father asked her where her new shoes were, she said "mommy wont let me wear them cause they are ugly. They were adorable!

Last time I checked, a mom can dress her kids anyway she wants, and unless the kid is dressed like a streethooker or a hobo, the other parent not to mention the stepparent, has little to argue with the mom about in that case.
Hairspray issue, what's to say the kid didn't ask for it herself? Many of my nieces and nephews wants spray or gel in their hair sometimes to look "cool" (or so they think). That's not neglect!
Looking at your baby through the window doesn't mean she's kissing your @ss, she might just want to have a look at her kid's sibling! I can be curious to look at a baby without loving or wanting anything from it's parents. Your baby isn't causing her issues, so why should she ignore that it exists? That baby is part of her kid's family.
If these are the only complaints as far as neglect goes, you don't have much of a case. Leave it up to the kid's parents to sort this situation out.
 

LdiJ

Senior Member
Chelle0511 said:
Can you please tell me why it it that you are so concerened with "my meddling"? First of all, from the way it sounds you have plenty going on in your home, you really shouldn't be worrying about mine! I believe that this is a message board to get legal advice... so, let's see... did I ask for your advice? AGAIN, RESEARCH is all that I do. As well as be there for my fiance in his battle to be with his daughter. I believe that from the info. I have provided you with, you have no reason to tell me to butt out, I do believe that you should practice what you preach. So tell me how long did you know this "new guy" before marrying him? Oh yeah, by the way he is a legal stranger to your siblings, so maybe he shoudn't "play dad" until it is legal. Isn't that what you are preaching to me?? Enough time wasted on you... you better go fight the black cloud before it "gets ya!"

Now, for all of you that I promised to keep posted. IT was a long battle for the fiance this evening but we are now home safe with the daughter. Worked with a very helpful officer this evening! Met him at the station at 5:15, he followed us to CP's house. She was not there. NCP went back to the station and filed "contemt" with the officer. Since we had the visitation agreement this time he also filed for Christmas Eve. After filing we said that we would be in town for the next hour and he said that he would continue to patrol the area. An hour later she came home, he went back... after telling her of the charge and a little bit of threatening she agreed to let NCP have daughter. He called we met at station and she is now with us... YEAH, and thanks for all the support. The charge will still go to State's Attorney Monday and we will follow through just to get to court and do a little bit of modifications (traveling, time adjustments etc.) I will keep you all posted and thanks again!

The reason why everyone is so concerned with your "meddling" is because judges, GALs and other court professionals often get VERY concerned about meddling from stepparents or others. In fact, a stepparent who meddles in these issues can actually damage their spouse's case. I appreciate that you have lots of questions, but honestly, you come across as a stepparent who is trying to push their spouse into actions that the spouse wouldn't necessarily consider on their own. You also appear very resentful of the income that is leaving your home in child support.

You do need to be very careful. If any of the court professionals begin to view you as interfering in the co-parenting relationship, it can be a serious problem.
 
No, I did not read all the back and forth, so I dont know if this question was answered or not.

If someone is currently on parole or incarcerated in the state of Illinois, you can find them by name, partial name, birth date or their Illinois Department of Corrections number by going to www.idoc.state.il.us.

That site will give you their commiting offense, if there are previous offenses, date of offense, etc. If you cannot find someone there either A)they are discharged or B) they were only sentenced to county time. In either case, you can go to the courthouse of the county in question and view, for free, the case file. Copies will carry a fee which differs county by county. In Illinois, Cook County (Chicago and environs) is on the web also, but not criminal cases. This information is a matter of public record and anyopne can view it at any time.

Looking up this information is not harassment. What you do with this information may be.
 

Hisbabygirl77

Senior Member
Ok everyone is jumping down this ladies back saying she is complaining about hairspray and such....... The poster is not saying she( the poster) has a problem with the hairspray but that the BIOMOM refused visitation due to the fact that the POSTER used hairspray on the little girl was 4 minutes late to drop off and such so before you all jump on this poor poster make sure you understand what the heck she said first.
 
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