First time post

[Alive]

What is the name of your state? Michigan

Hello,
Just a little info:
I am the father of two children 16 & 19 the 19 year old does not live with here mother but the 16 year old does, I do not pay CS on the 19 year old anymore but I owe back support.

In the past I had always done well with keeping up with CS except the past 3 years I have had some bad times. I have been to 3 different Show cause hearings and it always come out bad.
Each time I go in I try to explain but I am never heard and I have to agree to some unpayable amount weekly, pay a large lump some or I am threatened I will be put in jail, so I do so.
At this point I cant do either. I am in construction and this is my slow time.

I have never gone in with a laywer to a show cause hearing and I am not sure I could afford one at this time either. But is there an advantage if I do get one?

I am at the point where I can make my weekly payments plus some extra on the arrearages through-out the winter and more during peak season. But this is what seems to happen every year and then I am put in a hole where I am not even able to make my weekly payments because of the amount the raised it too or the lump some I had to borrow to stay out of jail.

And my last question is can the mother of my children call the court to have the Show Cause dismissed or would this Show Cause hearing been a result of here?

I try to be on speaking terms with their mother. But, after she kicked my 19 year old out on the streets... (because she was dating a black guy) the last time we spoke was 6 months ago and it wasnt on good terms to say the least

I have done everything possible (car, cash, loving support and an offer to live with me) for my 19 year old daughter that I can do as she lives 60 miles away.

Sorry, for so long and maybe too much information. I am new to the forums thing but didnt want to leave out maybe some helpfull info.

Thxs for help
Alive - Taking one day at a time

 

[LdiJ]

What is the name of your state? Michigan

Hello,
Just a little info:
I am the father of two children 16 & 19 the 19 year old does not live with here mother but the 16 year old does, I do not pay CS on the 19 year old anymore but I owe back support.

In the past I had always done well with keeping up with CS except the past 3 years I have had some bad times. I have been to 3 different Show cause hearings and it always come out bad.
Each time I go in I try to explain but I am never heard and I have to agree to some unpayable amount weekly, pay a large lump some or I am threatened I will be put in jail, so I do so.
At this point I cant do either. I am in construction and this is my slow time.

I have never gone in with a laywer to a show cause hearing and I am not sure I could afford one at this time either. But is there an advantage if I do get one?

I am at the point where I can make my weekly payments plus some extra on the arrearages through-out the winter and more during peak season. But this is what seems to happen every year and then I am put in a hole where I am not even able to make my weekly payments because of the amount the raised it too or the lump some I had to borrow to stay out of jail.

And my last question is can the mother of my children call the court to have the Show Cause dismissed or would this Show Cause hearing been a result of here?

I try to be on speaking terms with their mother. But, after she kicked my 19 year old out on the streets... (because she was dating a black guy) the last time we spoke was 6 months ago and it wasnt on good terms to say the least

I have done everything possible (car, cash, loving support and an offer to live with me) for my 19 year old daughter that I can do as she lives 60 miles away.

Sorry, for so long and maybe too much information. I am new to the forums thing but didnt want to leave out maybe some helpfull info.

Thxs for help
Alive - Taking one day at a time

I am not sure that there is much more that an attorney can do for you at this point. It looks like the judge is taking a pretty hard stance with you.

The only thing that I might suggest is that you go in with a written plan that takes the seasonality of your work into consideration. Don't go in there trying to just verbally explain things, but have a plan written out that the judge can see. Guarantee to pay your regular child support on time, plus a small amount for arrearages during your off season, and guarantee to pay your regular support plus a much larger amount for arrearages during your working season. AND THEN STICK TO THE PLAN WITHOUT FAIL.

I can't think of anything else to suggest...other than getting a second job.

 

[BL]

First thing you can do is look for a good paying full time Job, or 2 part time jobs ,when you're in the off season. You know your responsibilities, and know you HAVE TO meet them.
Sitting around drawing unemployment benefits isn't going to make it.

And yes you could be thrown in jail for non support. I doubt if a Lawyer would help you.

 

[Alive]

RE: Sitting around drawing unemployment benefits

Well, I dont sit around. I work all winter long, it just takes twice as long to do the work and instead of 12 hr days I only have about 8 hr days in winter because of daylight.
During the winter my wife gets a job and works the nights while I am home watching the kids.
Belive me I would like to get a second job, but this is the deal my wife and I worked out so I could be home with the kids more during the winter and she enjoys working the Christmas season.

 

[OHIOGUY44095]

ANOTHER dumbass comment

First thing you can do is look for a good paying full time Job, or 2 part time jobs ,when you're in the off season. You know your responsibilities, and know you HAVE TO meet them.

Where in the world was this ever mentioned to begin with? Oh, you're doing what you -- and many others who "contribute" regularly on here do -- assume and make stupid comments. No wonder people like you BL continuous post on here. If you were REAL lawyers with REAL clients, you wouldn't have time to post or if you did, would be more civil and professional.

As your post demonstrates, you're not too good on the legal knowledge and definitely fail when it comes to career advice.

ASSuming just makes you that, BL -- an ASS. Shut up if you can't add anything that remotely resembles knowledge.

LadiJ has given great advices on these forums. BL you and your wannabes should take note.

 

[Hisbabygirl77]

Ouch Ohioman as my two year old would say NOT NICE! BL was stating that you know Winter is the off season but umm guess what your children still need to be supported in the off season. It's nice that you and your current wife worked out a "deal" but YOUR CHILDREN didn't chose that deal and you still have to support them. So guess what you just might have to tick off your current wife and get a second job because I am sure your children would like to be able to enjoy the "christmas season" too!

 

[stealth2]

Oh, you're doing what you -- and many others who "contribute" regularly on here do -- assume and make stupid comments.

And you've certainly provided a great deal of assistance (funny, that has the same first three letters as assume) to posters haven't you, OhioDude?

 

[BelizeBreeze]

Where in the world was this ever mentioned to begin with? Oh, you're doing what you -- and many others who "contribute" regularly on here do -- assume and make stupid comments. No wonder people like you BL continuous post on here. If you were REAL lawyers with REAL clients, you wouldn't have time to post or if you did, would be more civil and professional.

As your post demonstrates, you're not too good on the legal knowledge and definitely fail when it comes to career advice.

ASSuming just makes you that, BL -- an ASS. Shut up if you can't add anything that remotely resembles knowledge.

LadiJ has given great advices on these forums. BL you and your wannabes should take note.

Say Goodbye.

 

[BL]

Where in the world was this ever mentioned to begin with? Oh, you're doing what you -- and many others who "contribute" regularly on here do -- assume and make stupid comments. No wonder people like you BL continuous post on here. If you were REAL lawyers with REAL clients, you wouldn't have time to post or if you did, would be more civil and professional.

As your post demonstrates, you're not too good on the legal knowledge and definitely fail when it comes to career advice.

ASSuming just makes you that, BL -- an ASS. Shut up if you can't add anything that remotely resembles knowledge.

LadiJ has given great advices on these forums. BL you and your wannabes should take note.

Well I'm not the ASS that will be going to jail ,If I don't pay my support. I gave him a blunt answer to his post . So what if he came back with he's only working 8 hrs. ( most people only work 8 hrs. a day), and his wife gets a job during X-mas season. The support still has to be paid.

God forbid if someone had to go without what they're use to, for their kids .

 

[Alive]

Wow

I thought this was a place for advice but I can see there is a few who think they are all mighty here... hmmm just like the courts!

As far as my wife working and not letting her, and myself find work, she make $15.00 an hour... that is better than the $12.50 I make an hour so YOU do the math. My two oldest daughter's are lacking nothing with me being behind. There mother is in a 6 digit income. I make half of that

I guess you really dont need to reply to this post anymore as I will not be comming back. I thought this was a place for advice, not to be looked down upon.

Thxs to the people that left resonable advice.
To those that just jump to conclusions and look down on people... I forgive you and hope some day you will be a happier person.

Alive

 

[Hisbabygirl77]

Oh brother my life is complete now that I have been forgiven

 

[BelizeBreeze]

If you want an answer other than the ones you got, then go to the mirror and ask someone who will agree with you.

Otherwise, your ONLY option is to either get a second or third job or continue with the mediation and file your own petition to subpoena the payroll records of your ex.

This is not a bitch and moan site. And I'd gladly trade you support payments. Try $5,000 a month PLUS college trusts for two daughters at $30,000 a year PLUSE full medical and dental. And that was when I was only earning $95,000 a year.

I NEVER fell behind. Because there's 24 hours in a day so enough time to work two jobs AND sleep.

 

[Hisbabygirl77]

Dang now why couldnt I have had you for my ex husband BB? lol

 

[BelizeBreeze]

Twice is enough. There won't be a third time

 

[Hisbabygirl77]

Lol smart man at your going rate you couldn't afford another ex