forced to quit_unemployment benefits denied

[SINCITY89103]

Yo Enasni

I do not know what it is with you? Do you fully read the posts? I credited their knowledge and expertise not once, but twice in my post. All I simply stated is that if she felt strongly about it to go through with it. That winning the case is not always the only thing important, that standing up for yourself, win "or lose", is sometimes the more important thing. However, time and money isn't always in excess, so we should also choose our fights carefully.

I'm not saying I know what will happen, but if she feels that strongly about it, hell do it for peace of mind, knowing that you gave it your best shot. Maybe if others she referred to as being pushed out made more noise she'd have a better case today.

FYI I read a post the other day, advice by more than one senior member was given "not" to persue. She went against their advice and won. Now let this be known: I am NOT trying to discredit anyone here (I would never do that, unlike some people), but let's at least agree that it is, what it is, and that's:
ad·vice
Pronunciation: &d-'vIs
1 : recommendation regarding a decision or course of conduct

And Enasni trashing my advice? I've read some of your posts , remember how we met? At least my advice was sincere, just giving her another prospective, can never have too many of those can you?


Can anyone here be held liable if their advice is wrong? Why is that? Every case is different, you will not always have the same results. Oh yeah, and sometimes our advice is wrong.

 

[ENASNI]

Um

Okay... whatever... just to let you know SinCity... the posters do not always tell the truth about the outcome of their cases...especially if they get trashed here...
There was one guy that said within 15 days he got 10,000 for the taking down of a Mulberry tree.
Me Cynical yes... hopeful yes... wrong advice from me... I try not too.
I just know cbg and beth would do their best to lead anyone the right way and do it in the nicest way.
Me nice... um... sometimes..

 

[cbg]

For the record, anyone here can be wrong about an answer. Often the poster leaves out vitally important facts, either because they honestly don't think it matters or because they're afraid that they won't get the answer they want if the include them. Sometimes the poster's interpretation of the facts is faulty. Sometimes there's information that the poster does not know. Sometimes a judge or an adjudicator sees the facts differently than we do.

We can only go by the information that is presented to us, which may or may not be either complete or accurate.

 

[Beth3]

Ditto to what cbg said. I think the poster should continue to pursue the UC appeal process. She has nothing to lose by doing so. The odds of her being granted benefits appear to be extremely slim however.

 

[SINCITY89103]

You just do not get it do you?

Thank you cbg and Beth3, that's all I was saying the entire time.

Enansni here are some of your quotes:

Beth and cbg have loads of experience in this field... the poster would do right to listen to them.
You on the other hand just gave the poster not such good advice.

and your latest....

I just know cbg and beth would do their best to lead anyone the right way and do it in the nicest way

Enasni, why do keep defending Beth3 and cbg as though I were attacking them? You must not comprehend anything I have written here. Your intial post was not even directed at the person seeking advice, it was directed at me. Insulting me for basically giving the same advice Beth3 and cbg just did in the posts above.

I say if you have the time/money go for it. If not suck it up and move on, there's some good knowledge on this forum, and they seem to think you have no case.

That was one of my quotes, does that soud like I'm disagreeing with them when they stated she probably has no case? You are lost.

Sorry for wasting space on this thread whatnow2do, it will not happen again, good luck to you.

 

[ENASNI]

Aww

Sin..
are you flirting with me...

 

[SINCITY89103]

hmmm...

are you cute?

 

[ENASNI]

well

Does a one-legged duck swim in circles...

 

[Whatnow2do]

Sorry for wasting space on this thread whatnow2do, it will not happen again, good luck to you.

It's quite OK. I was getting a chuckle out of some of these responses. Honestly, I have needed a reason to laugh these days. I think everyone here gave me good insight. Thanks!

 

[vbros1gfriend]

Hey Whatnow2do!

Thank you for the review of my post. After reading some of your situation - we do have alot of similarities. My former boss also went through my desk - he threw away work in progress; account receivable files; left me messages all over my work space on sticky notes using profanity. I arrived to work (as always) earlier than everyone and was able to take them all down and throw them away before being humiliated. (of course after getting a witness of his behavior). But - as you and everyone on this forum is realizing - the employer is permitted to do and say whatever he wants. When he arrived at work - I had all of his notes neatly on top of his trash can and greeted him with a "Good Morning Boss"

I resigned from my position at the end of September - received my first notification of decline from UC at the end of October - filed my appeal of initial determination (does not have a formal hearing) on the first day of November - and just one week ago (after waiting almost five months) received notification that UC was sticking to the denial of my claim.

As mentioned - luckily - I did have savings; sold some items; cashed in a 401K policy and was able to survive the "inappropriate" wait time that it took for a redetermination examiner to review my case and turn it down again without even talking with me. Man - do employment laws need to change!!

However -during this time - I have been doing alot of research. I found a site called www.timslaw.com. Wish I would have researched before my resignation. I would have forced the "a##hole" to fire me!!

So - I am basically fighting for approximately $6,000.00 that I feel is owed to me. I have decided to keep going - what do I or you have to lose. Of course - keep looking for a better job - don't let the emotional drama keep you down - do alot of research to prepare for your case - and keep your chin up!! At least we don't work for jerks any more! And.... yes - the next person that I make a million for WILL BE ME!!!

And....... if I do lose - revenge will be sweet and he will wish he never met me!

 

[boonehead]

For the record, anyone here can be wrong about an answer. Often the poster leaves out vitally important facts, either because they honestly don't think it matters or because they're afraid that they won't get the answer they want if the include them. Sometimes the poster's interpretation of the facts is faulty. Sometimes there's information that the poster does not know. Sometimes a judge or an adjudicator sees the facts differently than we do.

We can only go by the information that is presented to us, which may or may not be either complete or accurate.

How true this statement is, I would have bet my future wages OJ Simpson was guilty from the information that I had read, how suprised I was when I discovered he was innocent!

 

[ENASNI]

Well Well Well

Hey Whatnow2do!

Thank you for the review of my post. After reading some of your situation - we do have alot of similarities. My former boss also went through my desk - he threw away work in progress; account receivable files; left me messages all over my work space on sticky notes using profanity. I arrived to work (as always) earlier than everyone and was able to take them all down and throw them away before being humiliated. (of course after getting a witness of his behavior). But - as you and everyone on this forum is realizing - the employer is permitted to do and say whatever he wants. When he arrived at work - I had all of his notes neatly on top of his trash can and greeted him with a "Good Morning Boss"

I resigned from my position at the end of September - received my first notification of decline from UC at the end of October - filed my appeal of initial determination (does not have a formal hearing) on the first day of November - and just one week ago (after waiting almost five months) received notification that UC was sticking to the denial of my claim.

As mentioned - luckily - I did have savings; sold some items; cashed in a 401K policy and was able to survive the "inappropriate" wait time that it took for a redetermination examiner to review my case and turn it down again without even talking with me. Man - do employment laws need to change!!

However -during this time - I have been doing alot of research. I found a site called www.timslaw.com. Wish I would have researched before my resignation. I would have forced the "a##hole" to fire me!!

So - I am basically fighting for approximately $6,000.00 that I feel is owed to me. I have decided to keep going - what do I or you have to lose. Of course - keep looking for a better job - don't let the emotional drama keep you down - do alot of research to prepare for your case - and keep your chin up!! At least we don't work for jerks any more! And.... yes - the next person that I make a million for WILL BE ME!!!

And....... if I do lose - revenge will be sweet and he will wish he never met me!

well Good Luck to you..
There you go Whatnow2do... someone with another recommendation..
Did I spell that right? Hope the smiles helped... it sucks to be unemployed. Good Luck to you!
And a Vindication for the SIN Man... too bad you are too young for me.. but thanks for the flirt. CITY boy!
Better luck next time...

your duck just flew the coop... never said it had one wing... eh?

 

[Whatnow2do]

Hey Whatnow2do!

Thank you for the review of my post. After reading some of your situation - we do have alot of similarities.......Wish I would have researched before my resignation. I would have forced the "a##hole" to fire me!!

Me too! I regret that I didn't see what he was doing and hold firm. But then again, I truly thought that no one in there right mind would expect me to have to work under such conditions, including the UC board. My boss was getting rid of my position and needed an easy "out". There should be something with UC law that can look into a "voluntary quit" situation and see if that job was eliminated and what conditions were being forced on an employee. To me, it's almost criminal to treat a good employee bad, just to save money. Unfortunately, it seems far too many employers use that tactic to avoid a formal layoff and the rightful collection of benefits. I didn't just walk out for no good reason. I was there for 5 years and did my job well. I now wake up every morning, heart pounding with worry over my bills. I made it all too easy for my boss and the thanks I'll probably get will be a bad recommendation (he was livid when he read what I told the UC office, according to my supervisor).

 

[aquaholic]

I was wondering how much time you have to have in to quailify for unemployment?
I live in Michigan, and getting a job with my skills are slim. It took me awhile to find this one.
I quit after complaining to the GM of sexual harassment and the results were no other sexual harassment in the physical sense and it became a hostle enviroment immediately.
I was called a nark etc..... and the assistant manager for which I placed the charge on, began treating me rudly. Not to mention the manager that informed me that I should not contact the GM, come to her. She happens to be the assistant managers relative. I did not know this until a week or so later. What is wrongful termination and sexual harassment policies for if the people who are the victims are not taken serious?
Is there a way to prove these allegations? What more could I have done? Should I have waited around for future harassment? Or just sucked it up and took it like a man?

 

[Beth3]

You quit? Huh? In your own post, aqua, you said you were still working there. If you did, in fact, quit, you should apply for UC benefits immediately. You may be one of the rare posters who actually have "good cause" to resign and still be eligible for UC benefits.

If your allegations of SH were never addressed or any retaliation occurred for making an internal complaint, you may file a claim of prohibited discrimination and retaliaton with MI's Department of Labor or the EEOC.