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logain721

Junior Member
Indiana

My friend was arrested a couple weeks ago but released the next day. He was arrested for carrying a article. I was with him when this happened, he was doing nothing wrong at the time but for some reason a cop came up to him asked him to put his hands on his car and searched him. He found nothing but the article, then arrested him. The cop didnt give a cause for what he was doing.


Heres what the article said, not sure if you need to know this or not but I figure I might as well post it


What is the Totality?


It is the high resues of hazardous and potentially lethal chemicals inside your fat cells. It is you sitting inside and turning on the television or computer on a beautiful day. It is you shopping when you are depressed. It is the feeling you get that somthing is missing. It is your worries that fire may destroy all of your possessions and you plans to try and take them with you. It is the thought that tells you to go on a diet. It is the excess fat on your body. It is the headache that wont go away. It is the bleeding in your intestines from years of pain alleviating drug use. It is the birth defects of your children. It is your killer when you die from a car accident. It is your syndrome. It is your tumor. It is your expensive coffin and burial clothing. It is the drugs you take when you need an escape. It is the bulldozer that destroyed the woods you might have known so well. It is the towering skyscraper that makes you feel forever tiny and powerless. It is your boss. It is minimum wage, it is maximum wage.


It is your poison, sometimes with bars, sometimes without. It is all your fears. it is what is keeping you up at night. It is the lock on your door. It is the bullet in your gun. it is your noose and your tie. It is that thing that you dont want to do, but you feel you have to. It is the turned cheek. It is the cold shoulder. it is the ad that tells you the internet will proviede affection for you. It is the new appliance that you never knew existed, but you cant live without. It is poverty. It is inequality. It is the sink or swim economy. It is the thing that has categorized you. It has stopped you from doing the things you want. It is what makes you jealous. It is your hate. It is your love. It is your purgatives that you feel might be somewhat strange. It is your clenched fist. It is your mace spray.

It is the police. It is the nightstick. It is the protester and the media which tells you not to listen to them. It is the corporation which creates a new truth for you daily, one which provides you with the knowledge to buy what they make with confidence. It is the gold star you earned in kindergarten. It is the A you got in high school. It is your college degree. It is your paycheck. It is your therapist. It is your bill from the medicine you bought to "fix you brain". It is the ache in your back. it is your swollen knees. It is your worsening eyesight from the incandescent glow of our institutions. It is your hearing loss. It is "white nose" that drives you crazy. It is your adrenaline. It is the tears that pour down you face after a sad movie. It is your longing for a dramatic romance with a happy ending. It is your lust for sex. It is the objectified women, and the powerless man. It is the rapist. It is the murderer. It is the thief. It is the profiteer. It is the worker. It is the dead union organizer.


It is the solider that is willing to kill and die for cheaper oil. It is the victims of a government enflamed over unwillingness to follow their way of life. It is the activist hung for saying they dont want to be killed for profits. It is the rubber bullet. It is the pepper spray. It is the extinct species. It is the dyeing world. It is the polluted air. It is the tainted water. It is the accident at the nucleur power plant. it is the oil spill. It is the break in the pipeline. It is the brakes that failed. It is the dwindling bio deversity. It is the patented seed. It is the farmer killing her/himself with the pesticides that were going to make life better. It is the seat belt that mangled you, but didnt kill you entirely. It is the blood dripping from the cut you got at work, but cant afford to let it heal. It is the concrete beneath your feet. It is the stairs you fall down. It is the train that went off the tracks. It is the plane that blew up. It is the boat that sank. It is the drink you take to just forget it all. It is your misery. It is your world.

Its everything to you. it is civilized existence and the mindset which maintains it. Its what makes devastation seem not so shocking. It takes you through the day. It dulls you out at night. It gives you nightmares. It gives you dreams. It is your feeling of not having accomplished enough. It is the desire to have a child to complete yourself. It is the physical and mental barriers of civilized life. It is civilization and it has become you. It is a mindset. it is a power. it is physically reinforced to block off the reality of its powerlessness by mediating human existence from the natural world. It is the feeling of superiority, which supplies the reason to destroy all else. It is unnatural. It will fall, but will you fall with it? it is personal and it is individual. It is defeatable and its defeat is needed for our liberation, as wellas for that of all else that human kind has set out to conquer and overpower. Freedom is only a thought away. Liberate the mind and the body will follow.



So was it proper for him to be arrested for that?
 


logain721

Junior Member
Im not sure what he was charged with and he doesnt know either. From what I understand they told him nothing. When he was released he didnt get the article back. So we both have come to the conclusion that it was due to the article. Also nothing was mentioned of a hearing when he was released. Any ideas as far as whether there will be one?

Discrimination might also have played a role in this sense he has no address drivers license, its been so long sense hes ever needed his SSN that he doest remember it. He also dresses a bit different, and travels around the US living on the streets, and joining protest. He kind of stands out in a crowd and may look a bit agressive.
 
logain721 said:
Im not sure what he was charged with and he doesnt know either. From what I understand they told him nothing. When he was released he didnt get the article back. So we both have come to the conclusion that it was due to the article. Also nothing was mentioned of a hearing when he was released. Any ideas as far as whether there will be one?

Discrimination might also have played a role in this sense he has no address drivers license, its been so long sense hes ever needed his SSN that he doest remember it. He also dresses a bit different, and travels around the US living on the streets, and joining protest. He kind of stands out in a crowd and may look a bit agressive.
This is one for the books. Watch and see. I just have an uneasy feeling about this one.

First Amendment rights to freedom of association; to free speech; to free expression; to freely travel (or traverse) about.

There are Fourth Amendment issues, and Fourteenth Amendment issues, and that is just based on your post.

Lots and lots and lots of money could bring this to the forefront in a courtroom somewhere; where lots and lots and lots of money might change hands from the LE officials to your friend.

Trouble is, we will never know if there is no charge brought against him.

There is far more to your story that you are leaving out as well.
 

logain721

Junior Member
Well he has had other problems with the law, but has no charges brought against him. During a major protest in Florida against the FTAA he was shot with some kind of electric gun, and then arrested. Similar to what happened here, he was released 3 days later with no charges but was held until the protest ended. I don’t know if any of you remember the Major protest in Miami Florida against the FTAA about a year ago. He has several pictures of the police brutality that went on there, but none the less back to my original post.



Sense he doesn’t believe in the government and money, I doubt he would care to take this any further but he might. Especially if he receives a hearing date.

But after I saw what went down I really have come to realize the problems that are slowly erupting in our government/society today. All of are rights seem to be going down heal slowly but surely.
 

CdwJava

Senior Member
logain721 said:
Sense he doesn’t believe in the government and money, I doubt he would care to take this any further but he might. Especially if he receives a hearing date.

But after I saw what went down I really have come to realize the problems that are slowly erupting in our government/society today. All of are rights seem to be going down heal slowly but surely.
Well, since he doesn't believe in government and society - and doesn't want to be a aprt of it, why does he even care to change it?

Oh! That's right! Because he wants it to be the society HE wants! The heck with the rest of us ... and the majkority of the people ... he has to get his own way on the matter.

Too bad for him, that while he doesn't believe inthe government, apparently they believe in him.

And if he has been arrested, he KNOWS the charges. What are the crimes he is alleged to have committed (you know - the code section and title of the offense)?

- Carl
 

logain721

Junior Member
CdwJava said:
Well, since he doesn't believe in government and society - and doesn't want to be a aprt of it, why does he even care to change it?

Oh! That's right! Because he wants it to be the society HE wants! The heck with the rest of us ... and the majkority of the people ... he has to get his own way on the matter.

Too bad for him, that while he doesn't believe inthe government, apparently they believe in him.

And if he has been arrested, he KNOWS the charges. What are the crimes he is alleged to have committed (you know - the code section and title of the offense)?

- Carl



Good question, from my interpretations of his believes (anarchy), he cares to change it to stop the destruction of the world we live in today

Here’s some example which he has showed me:

Over 200 unique species go extinct every single day. This means that every night we go to sleep in a civilized world, 200 unique, amazing forms of live are gone forever.

DDT, one of the world's most deadly pesticides/poisons is present in every single living thing and body of water on earth, including the most remote parts of Antarctica.

An average of 27 tons of waste is produced during the manufacture of one car.

28 million people in the United States are on anti-depressant medication.

25,000 people die from starvation every day.

In the year 2000, malignant tumors were responsible for 12 percent of the nearly 56 million deaths worldwide from all causes. In many countries, more than a quarter of deaths are attributable to cancer.

Suicide is the 11th leading cause of death in America.

According to the World Health Organization "450 million people worldwide are affected by mental, neurological or behavioral problems at any given time. These problems are expected to increase considerably in the years to come".

As far as the government believing in him, I don’t see how. Unless you mean the government believing they can change the way he thinks.


And in reguards to his charges, He said he obtained no info from them and I believe him.
 

CdwJava

Senior Member
logain721 said:
Good question, from my interpretations of his believes (anarchy), he cares to change it to stop the destruction of the world we live in today ... <SNIP>
AACK! Sorry I mentioned it!

To avoid wasting too much time here, I will refrain (for now) from answering the leftist-anarchist claptrap and insanity.


As far as the government believing in him, I don’t see how. Unless you mean the government believing they can change the way he thinks.
No .. I mean they apparently believe HE exists. Though they apparently thinks that he committed a crime.


And as far as far as his charges, He said he obtained no info from them and I believe him.
And of course he has an attorney so he can sue them for false arrest because they never arrested him for anything,right?

And remember, someone CAN be arrested for probable cause only to be released later with no charges pending. Though they DO tend to tell the person why they were originally arrested. If he wasn't told,well, either he lied, or he can take the local constabulary for a nice bundle ... enough to keep him in black masks and equipped with bricks to vandalize McDonald's and Starbucks windows for a long time.

- Carl
 

logain721

Junior Member
He does not see himself as a leftist and in my opinion all anarchist aren’t leftist. All anarchist share a desire to abolish government: that is the definition of anarchism. Starting with Bakunin, anarchism has been explicitly anti-capitalist, and anti- Authoritarian; no serious anarchist seeks to alter that. Leftists have consistently Supported and promoted the functions of the state, have an ambiguous relationship to capitalist development, and are all interested in maintaining hierarchical relationships.


Sorry, I'm not trying to offend you, just trying to correct the leftist statement you made
 

CdwJava

Senior Member
Good ... no government. Nice. We call that chaos.

And, yes, I KNOW what anarchists are all about ... they just tend to fall into the leftist sphere.

But this is a different topic.

Any more questions about his mystery arrest? If not, then maybe he should get a lawyer and sue for being falsely detained at the protests. And if he doesn't believe in using the government, then this is a waste of time.


- Carl
 

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