Guilty of refusing to test in ohio

[Curt581]

I am new here, but if this is the mentality here, my visit here might be short lived.

Somehow, I don't think we're going to be that lucky.

 

[AHA]

I know of an idiot who drove drunk, with my hubby as a passenger in the car, into a parked car. Idiot didn't get a scratch, hubby had to go to the ER ($7000 bill), idiot refuse to blow and got his license suspended for a year. Idiot, of course, still got behind the wheel the day after and has been doing that ever since. Idiot didn;t even have current auto insurance, so guess who had to pay the $7000 ER bill?
No wonder there are so many irresponsible, stupid drunks on the roads, they don't get any kind of punishment that feels!!!!!!!!!
As far as I'm concerened(sp) all drunks on the road should be ashamed of themself and do everyone the curtesy of not driving again.
How f-ing hard is it to realise that it's dangerous AND AGAINTS THE LAW TO DRIVE DRUNK??????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But they're all idiots, so I guess I can't expect and ounce of intelligence or decency from filthy drunk drivers!

 

[fagettaboutit]

I know of an idiot who drove drunk, with my hubby as a passenger in the car...But they're all idiots, so I guess I can't expect and ounce of intelligence or decency from filthy drunk drivers!

It's one thing to be an idiot for driving drunk. But damn, getting into a car with a drunk driver makes the passenger just as much as an idiot. Why didn't your hubby insist on driving? Why didn't your hubby call a cab? Why didn't your hubby take the keys away from that guy?

Seven grand is a lot of money. I hope he learned his lesson because your hubby was anything but intelligent. You should be pissed at him too. He was an idiot not to prevent his buddy from driving. He was an idiot for not taking a cab so quite blaming his buddy for your husband's stupidity.

 

[AHA]

It's one thing to be an idiot for driving drunk. But damn, getting into a car with a drunk driver makes the passenger just as much as an idiot. Why didn't your hubby insist on driving? Why didn't your hubby call a cab? Why didn't your hubby take the keys away from that guy?

Seven grand is a lot of money. I hope he learned his lesson because your hubby was anything but intelligent. You should be pissed at him too. He was an idiot not to prevent his buddy from driving. He was an idiot for not taking a cab so quite blaming his buddy for your husband's stupidity.

WHERE DID I SAY THAT HUSBAND WAS SOBER?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
My husband might not be the smartest guy in the world all the time, but he had been drinking more than the other guy and definately didn't want to drive. Don't blame the passenger for not knowing that the driver is more drunk than he acts.
Don't you dare f-ing blame the only injured person AND the one who WASN'T DRIVING!!!!!!!!

Scary to know that people out there actually praise drunk drivers! Wow!

 

[RIDL_Prez]

Oh, I see. So your husband was smart enough not to drive, but he KNEW the other guy had been drinking and STILL got into a car with him. Yeah, sure I believe that he's not an idiot.

PUH-leeze. He STILL could have called a cab.

And by the way, your husband was guilty of allowing a DUI. I'm surprised he wasn't arrested too.

 

[AHA]

Oh, I see. So your husband was smart enough not to drive, but he KNEW the other guy had been drinking and STILL got into a car with him. Yeah, sure I believe that he's not an idiot.

PUH-leeze. He STILL could have called a cab.

And by the way, your husband was guilty of allowing a DUI. I'm surprised he wasn't arrested too.

Whatever!! He DIDN'T know that the guy had been drinking as much as he had! Why do I have to defend the innocent victim and why are you praising the drunken driver????? THAT is f-ed up! I sure hope I never end up in front of your car after your obvious usual drunk driving.

You have a good night, this is a waste of time. Enjoy yourselves.

 

[fagettaboutit]

Where did I "actually praise drunk drivers"? Let me repeat myself, in case I stuttered the first time, I said, "It's one thing to be an idiot for driving drunk."

Oh please, save the excuses for some naive fool. You're husband didn't know the man was drunk?? He had been drinking with him. What other clues did he need? He drinks with the drunk driver, gets in the car with the drunk driver and now you expect us to feel sorry for him? WTF.

The fact is honey, you're husband got into a car - instead of calling a cab - with a guy he had been drinking with. DUH! You go on and on about how dangerous it is, yet you can't comprehend that your drunk-a$$ husband got into a car with a driver he knew had been drinking!

but he had been drinking more than the other guy and definately didn't want to drive

He didn't want to drive, so he let his drinking buddy drive. Is that suppose to excuse your husband's stupid decision? Is that the part that takes him from being a complete idiot to victim?

He should have done what you expect everyone else to do - call a cab, call a friend, CALL YOUR WIFE!!!

Friends Don't Let Friends Drive Drunk. Sound familiar? If you don't want to get burned, stay away from fire. If you're husband didn't get into a car with a man he had been drinking with, he wouldn't have gotten injured by his drinking buddy's accident. It's just that simple. Now quit trying make your drunk husband look like an innocent victim. Stupid perhaps, but certainly no victim.

 

[fagettaboutit]

Whatever!! He DIDN'T know that the guy had been drinking as much as he had!

But he knew the guy had been drinking. Period. So I guess it's okay in YOUR book to allow your drinking partner to drive home instead of calling a cab for the both of you.

Why do I have to defend the innocent victim and why are you praising the drunken driver????? THAT is f-ed up! I sure hope I never end up in front of your car after your obvious usual drunk driving.

PRAISING? You are seriously delusional, woman. Your "innocent victim" of a husband let his friend drive home after he had been drinking with him.

It's so funny. You're the one defending a person who let his drinking buddy drive home. Not only defending him, trying to make him out to be an "innocent victim." No one else is defending anyone - especially your husband. Now you assume that I drive drunk because I refuse to see anyone who gets in a car WITH AND ALLOWS THEIR DRINKING BUDDY TO DRIVE as an "innocent victim."

 

[RIDL_Prez]

Oh my! Innocent victim MY ASS!!!

Honey, there is NO WAY that your husband was an innocent victim. And now because someone has the nerve to call a spade a spade and tell you to your face that your husband was NOT an innocent victim you start in with name calling and accusing people of driving drunk.

I've got news for you sweetheart.

De-NIAL is not just a river in Egypt!

Sound familiar???

Your husband, my dear, is just as guilty as the drunk driver he ALLOWED to drive. By the way, did you know that ALLOWING a DUI carries the SAME punishment as actually doing it yourself??? Your husband is guilty, guilty, GUILTY!!!!

Sounds like your husband got off easy. They should have put him in jail, taken his license away, tripled your insurance, made him go to alcoholics anonymous, made him attend a victim impact panel, made him do a 100 hours of community service, made him take an alcohol awareness course that you and he pay for and charged him an enormous fine and the two of you should have been made to pay an attorney $5,000 for the "privilege" of trying to prove his innocence. Then maybe he would "get it" that he shouldn't have let his friend drive drunk.

Innocent victim!!! Yeah right. I'll be laughing to my grave over that one.

 

[You Are Guilty]

Your husband, my dear, is just as guilty as the drunk driver he ALLOWED to drive. By the way, did you know that ALLOWING a DUI carries the SAME punishment as actually doing it yourself??? Your husband is guilty, guilty, GUILTY!!!!

Ignoring the rest of your rambling, this piece is particularly incorrect. Please show me ANY state's statute that says "a private citizen who 'allows' a DUI" is guilty of anything.

You drunks never cease to amaze.

 

[RIDL_Prez]

MICHIGAN

MCL

257.625 Operating motor vehicle while intoxicated; operating motor vehicle when visibly impaired; penalties for causing death or serious impairment of a body function; operation of motor vehicle by person less than 21 years of age; requirements; controlled substances; costs; enhanced sentence; guilty plea or nolo contendere; establishment of prior conviction; special verdict; public record; burden of proving religious service or ceremony; ignition interlock device; “prior conviction” defined.

...

(2) The owner of a vehicle or a person in charge or in control of a vehicle shall not authorize or knowingly permit the vehicle to be operated upon a highway or other place open to the general public or generally accessible to motor vehicles, including an area designated for the parking of motor vehicles, within this state by a person if any of the following apply:

(a) The person is under the influence of alcoholic liquor, a controlled substance, or a combination of alcoholic liquor and a controlled substance.

(b) The person has an alcohol content of 0.08 grams or more per 100 milliliters of blood, per 210 liters of breath, or per 67 milliliters of urine or, beginning October 1, 2013, the person has an alcohol content of 0.10 grams or more per 100 milliliters of blood, per 210 liters of breath, or per 67 milliliters of urine.

(c) The person's ability to operate the motor vehicle is visibly impaired due to the consumption of alcoholic liquor, a controlled substance, or a combination of alcoholic liquor and a controlled substance.

 

[fagettaboutit]

You drunks never cease to amaze.

You MADD lovin' teetotalers never seem to amaze me. The way you can't think for yourself. The way you eat up the MADD propaganda like a thirsty dog.

You're so ignorant you probably think AHA's husband is an innocent victim instead of some drunk dumba$$ who let his drinking buddy drive him home. Before you start with the typical MADD handbook insults, look at your little friend AHA's hubby first.

 

[CdwJava]

What has MADD got to do with any of this??

Does your disdain for MADD have to come in to everything?

Heck, I'm a tea-totaler (15 years sober on July 14th) and I have yet to read ANY MADD "propaganda" nor have I ever had any contact with their organization.

MADD does not legislate laws in the United States. So to blame them for the state of DUI laws (which are amazingly weak compared to those in other parts of the civilized world) is simply a red-herring. It's as if I blame the ACLU for every criminal that gets off with a crime through the use of some legal "loophole" - it just isn't so.

I suspect MADD wishes they were as powerful as you seem to think they are.

- Carl

 

[fagettaboutit]

MADD does not legislate laws in the United States

Carl, Carl, you're so very unaware, hon. Where do you think MADD spends a majority of the millions of dollars they collect? Lobbying for tougher DUI laws. If MADD has nothing to do with DUI laws, call them and tell them their PR is false. Thus far they have taken credit from new laws to changing the drinking age. They also affect the way judges and prosecutors handle DUI cases through intimidation. Granted you don't support MADD but you also know very little about them too. Your So Guilty is a total MADD supporter. Notice how he calls everyone a drunk. Typical MADD talk.

As for other countries, most don't have a drinking age either. But that didn't stop the US from changing the drinking age here. Instead of looking for more punishment why don't you focus on better ways to prevent? Why not arrange to have a BAC campaign in your town? Sit outside bars and have people blow in your little machine. I promise if more people understood what their limit was, you'd have less drunk drivers. If every person waited 1.5 hours per drink before they drove, we'd have very few DUIs. Why don't you start a designated driver program in your town? Punishment hasn't been working all that great. Preventing does. These folks are in your home state: http://www.ddasd.org/index.shtml I'm sure they would be happy to work with you in your area.

 

[You Are Guilty]

MICHIGAN

MCL

257.625 Operating motor vehicle while intoxicated; operating motor vehicle when visibly impaired; penalties for causing death or serious impairment of a body function; operation of motor vehicle by person less than 21 years of age; requirements; controlled substances; costs; enhanced sentence; guilty plea or nolo contendere; establishment of prior conviction; special verdict; public record; burden of proving religious service or ceremony; ignition interlock device; “prior conviction” defined.

...

(2) The owner of a vehicle or a person in charge or in control of a vehicle shall not authorize or knowingly permit the vehicle to be operated upon a highway or other place open to the general public or generally accessible to motor vehicles, including an area designated for the parking of motor vehicles, within this state by a person if any of the following apply:

(a) The person is under the influence of alcoholic liquor, a controlled substance, or a combination of alcoholic liquor and a controlled substance.

(b) The person has an alcohol content of 0.08 grams or more per 100 milliliters of blood, per 210 liters of breath, or per 67 milliliters of urine or, beginning October 1, 2013, the person has an alcohol content of 0.10 grams or more per 100 milliliters of blood, per 210 liters of breath, or per 67 milliliters of urine.

(c) The person's ability to operate the motor vehicle is visibly impaired due to the consumption of alcoholic liquor, a controlled substance, or a combination of alcoholic liquor and a controlled substance.

Buzz! Try again. Note the request was for a "private citizen", such as AHA's husband. Not the vehicle owner.

PS: If being against drunk driving makes me a MADD cheerleader or whatever else you want to call it, then so be it. Granted, some DUI statistics are skewed due to improper recording procedures, but that does not excuse the fact that (really) drunk people still drive, and when they do, they cause a lot more than their proportionate share of accidents.

Why you and the other drunks here are never going to get anywhere with your DUI "reform" is simple - you continue to act as if getting drunk and driving away wasn't an intentional, conscious act. People choose to drive drunk. No one forces them. So whining that the penalties are too stiff, whopp-di-freaking-doo. Want an easy and free way to avoid them? Don't drink and drive. Damn simple.