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tigger2two

Guest
Do you know where a new commanding officer comes from? They come from within the command.

They do not always come from with in the command. They come from transfurs to another duty station quiet often.


Maybe it wasn't her ex husband she heard it from. Maybe she has friends still connected to the military and they told her. I haven't seen or spoken to my ex husband in over 1 and 1/2 years but it is easy to find out what rank he is, what job he holds and what his income is. On top of that she didn't say he had had 3 promotions in 3 years. She said it had been several years that he had been paying at the present rate and had 3 promotions since.
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I have requested that my case be reviewed for an increase because it has been a few years and not only has he gotten he automatic yearly raise he has moved up in rank 3x.

I beg to differ there. she did say that it hasn't been reviewed in a few years. This could mean more than 3 probably doesn't bc 3 is the norm for a review. And if he hadn't moved up 3 ranks since her last CS order then it the order would already reflect some of these promotions, and there would have been no need for her to mention them.
 


PenutButterChip

Junior Member
snodderly said:
I could understand one but considering how often military enlisted members have a change in commanding officers that he was able to pull 3 rank changes off on all of these commanding officers bc of his ,azz kissing as you put it

Do you know where a new commanding officer comes from? They come from within the command. The DO usually takes over as the commander when the commander leaves. My ex and I were stationed at one place for over 8 years. He made below the zone twice in a 4 year period. The entire 8 years we were there they did not ship someone in from out of the command to be the new commander. He had a long standing relationship with the 4 commanders during that 8 year period and made a very good impression on all of them.

The inlisted personnel at this commanded had the same advantages that my ex husband did. They had the opportunity to develop long lasting relationships that helped them further their career. In a time where we are experiencing a need for more military members it is quite easy to get a below the zone promotion. The fewer men you have to fill a position the more you are going to have to promote to put in that position.

Maybe it wasn't her ex husband she heard it from. Maybe she has friends still connected to the military and they told her. I haven't seen or spoken to my ex husband in over 1 and 1/2 years but it is easy to find out what rank he is, what job he holds and what his income is. On top of that she didn't say he had had 3 promotions in 3 years. She said it had been several years that he had been paying at the present rate and had 3 promotions since.
snodderly

Thank you Snodderly. He has been promoted 2x in the three years and 2x 3 years ago. He is now and E-7, so yes he is enlisted. He had just, just been promoted to E-5 when we first went before a judge. He gets all the extra pay perks because he is remarried to a chick with 3 kids...yet hates sending me a DIME! He has a bud that last I knew was stationed in DC with all brass, and the last time he appeared in court he said he was on his way to Germany and dint know when he would be back! The judge asked well isnt it it 3 years? He said in his most sly, annoying, country accent 'if I choose'.

Uggghhhh, I knew right there would be the start of more problems. I do have to say that I am married so we are not hurting for money, but all the stunts he has pulled and BS he has put us through has cost me more than what he gives me.
 
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tigger2two

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PenutButterChip said:
He gets all the extra pay perks because he is remarried to a chick with 3 kids...yet hates sending me a DIME! .

He may get perks from the military for having a wife but he gets no perks for her having children that aren't his. Other than at tax time of course.

Don't get me wrong PBC i think he should pay what he owes and i know the frustration you are going through bc my ex and his new wife are both military and have another child together. And he didn't want to pay support so bad that he took me to court for custody. Thank god the judge saw right through him. But as far as CS goes, its supposed to be easy to get it from enlisted military. Well i would like to know who make that BS up bc it is the farthest thing from the truth.

But once you get it ammended you should be smooth sailing from there. If that makes you feel any better!
 

Shay-Pari'e

Senior Member
TLWE said:
The current exchange rate is 1 USD-1 = .8292 EUR0 , how is THAT a good exchange rate?

The Commissary has a 1% surcharge on the shelf price and a 5% surcharge at checkout...same as paying 6% sales tax. AAFES doesn't have a surcharge, but they only carry brand names. Many lower rank military personnel with small children (who have growing feet) have a rough time paying $30 and up for shoes.

Ohhh...well, I don't want to forget the whopping $130-$152 COLA you get living in GE!

Normal duty station time (with dependents) is 2 years CONUS and 3 years overseas. If you get to a post and your MOS is in short supply...you are going to be there until your slot can be filled.

I am in no way saying that just because a person is in the military they aren't obligated to support their children. But it is definitely not the career choice for getting rich.


The currency for ITALY is the euro. The currency for GERMANY, is the MARK.
 

Shay-Pari'e

Senior Member
PenutButterChip said:
What is the name of your state? MA

My childs loser father is stationed in Germany and has been there for 2 almost 3 years and i have tried 2x to get my support raised from the peanuts he gives me but he has been appointed a lwyer because he is overseas and cant appear. They will not raise the support because he is not present?!?! I have to wait until he comes back, but I know that he and his wife like it there and are trying not to come back. How long can he hide behind this?

Also between the first time I wanted it raised and now he has had achild with his wife, is that going to factor into if they raise it or not. ( I hope not because that is absolutely unfair! But I know worse things happen...)


I am going to answer your first post, and skip over the the other crapola. First off, JAG lawyers do not represent anyone in the civilian courts, so I bet you he hired an attorney. Secondly, if he had a attorney, that is the same as him being present, thats what lawyers do. Third, yes, if he has another child he will get a hardship deduction, and you may get even less. Had you had an attorney of your own, he would have suggested you get a "Order to withold income". The military is very strict with this, and they will deduct and mail you your check every week.
 

stealth2

Under the Radar Member
--PARIDISE-- said:
The currency for ITALY is the euro. The currency for GERMANY, is the MARK.

Peeps.... BOTH Germany AND Italy use the Euro. Their traditional currencies are the Mark and the Lira. Germany has no time limit to convert solely to the Euro, while Italy has until 2012.

So you're right, and wrong.
 

Shay-Pari'e

Senior Member
Ya, I was just looking that up. I have a sister who lives in Italy and she was telling me something along those lines. I used Marks last year on a visit,(Germany), and the euro in Italy, but again , I was just visiting.
 
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PenutButterChip

Junior Member
Tigger2Two - And he didn't want to pay support so bad that he took me to court for custody. Thank god the judge saw right through him.
Yes my loser did this too, but I guess since I wasnt represented I got the old shaft, and they actually allowed him to pay for a G&L, some psych doc that checked me out and my child, I had to go and meet with him 3 friggin times, and then he just called the loser on the phone for one hour :confused: Thank goodness he ruled in my favor, and of course the loser went back off into hiding.

Paradise - I am going to answer your first post, and skip over the the other crapola. First off, JAG lawyers do not represent anyone in the civilian courts, so I bet you he hired an attorney. Secondly, if he had a attorney, that is the same as him being present, thats what lawyers do. Third, yes, if he has another child he will get a hardship deduction, and you may get even less. Had you had an attorney of your own, he would have suggested you get a "Order to withold income". The military is very strict with this, and they will deduct and mail you your check every week.

He doesnt have a JAG lawyer, he has a MA family law lawyer. She was sitting in the courtroom when my case was called and he wasntthere the judge read through the file saw that he was sent to GErmany and started spewing off the S&S Act. Then the judge looked around spotted someone and said You! You need to represent this man! So his lawyer doesnt know him from any other deadbeat. She actually tried to drop him but couldnt. She is useless too because she isnt getting paid so of course she could give a rats butt. As for what you said about if there is an attorney that counts...that is what I thought, but Noooooo, she specifically said to the judge he would like to exercise his right of the S&S Act, and not have the support raised, judge said ok. As fo witholding or yanking from his check, I already got that, and of course he had a fit about that because now he cant go to Officer School with the garnishment and asked me if I would take it off :confused: HA! He is soooo selfish.


My response:

When are we changing our money?

Instead of the "Dollar", it should be the "Unito-Stato".

IAAL

Too Funny, thanks for the laugh IAAL
 

Shay-Pari'e

Senior Member
PenutButterChip said:
Yes my loser did this too, but I guess since I wasnt represented I got the old shaft, and they actually allowed him to pay for a G&L, some psych doc that checked me out and my child, I had to go and meet with him 3 friggin times, and then he just called the loser on the phone for one hour :confused: Thank goodness he ruled in my favor, and of course the loser went back off into hiding.



He doesnt have a JAG lawyer, he has a MA family law lawyer. She was sitting in the courtroom when my case was called and he wasntthere the judge read through the file saw that he was sent to GErmany and started spewing off the S&S Act. Then the judge looked around spotted someone and said You! You need to represent this man! So his lawyer doesnt know him from any other deadbeat. She actually tried to drop him but couldnt. She is useless too because she isnt getting paid so of course she could give a rats butt. As for what you said about if there is an attorney that counts...that is what I thought, but Noooooo, she specifically said to the judge he would like to exercise his right of the S&S Act, and not have the support raised, judge said ok. As fo witholding or yanking from his check, I already got that, and of course he had a fit about that because now he cant go to Officer School with the garnishment and asked me if I would take it off :confused: HA! He is soooo selfish.




Too Funny, thanks for the laugh IAAL



What kind of Judge yells at a "You" in a child support, custody case, and tells them they have to represent someone?
I am soooooooooooooo confused.

Sorry, I just don't get this.
 

topsidder

Member
On top of pay raises their BAH was raised 7.5% in 2003 and their BAS was raised 4.8%. The ex husband of this poster has had a substantial increase in military pay over the last 3 years. Oh, and, if, at any time during that period he decided to reinlist he got right aound $4,000 paid to him in bonuses. That counts as income.

Now snodderly, if we are to consider the benefits one receives while in the service as income (remember this is the taxpayers dollar paying this; it is government) then one must reduce the expenses of the CP by the same benefits SHE receives from the taxpayers (HUD, food stamps, insurance, job training etc.) again these are benefits paid by the tax payers.

Therefor, if she receives these benefits, her cost of raising the child has shifted, and his support obligation should be less.

If you are going to attach a value to benefits received by the government for CS calculations, then it needs to be on both sides of the equation. THIS IS KNOWN AS A BALANCED TRANSACTION!
 

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