how to read and understand my court order

[ibethemom]

i'm not

finding anything in searches about not being able to record my calls in attempt to speak to my daughter. i started doing this because it became he said she said. he would say in court that he allowed our daughter to have her phone so i taped a conversation when i am on the phone with her and he is clearly heard in the background telling her to "give me the phone now" ripping it out of her hands. i have another recording of him telling her its her fault for his taking a game away from her because she is on the phone with me and he dialed my number. i even say on the calls that these are being recorded. i sent all to him and his attorney. at least he has stopped calling me just so that i can hear his interactions with her. now he doesn't allow me to speak to her at all.

 

[ibethemom]

what?

Excessive use of pronouns makes to very confusing.

should i type in third person.

 

[ibethemom]

i found this:

"Yep, you can record.

In the case of a telephone or in-person conversation, recording simply means making a copy of the conversation between two or more people. Recording is illegal in Arizona if NO party to the conversation knows that the conversation is being recorded. However, in Arizona, and this varies by state, if one party to the conversation knows that the conversation is being recorded, it is not illegal. Thus, if someone tape records a phone call or conversation involving him/herself and another person, even one who is unaware of being recorded, that’s legal in Arizona. If the same person taps into a phone line and records a conversation between two people who are unaware they are being recorded, it is ILLEGAL. Arizona and federal law are similar in this respect; however, recording conversations is illegal in certain other states unless all parties know of the recording and consent. There may be some cross-jurisdictional issues involved when tape recording a conversation across state or national boundaries. Prior to tape recording, it is recommended that you consult an attorney in the appropriate jurisdiction."

 

[Proserpina]

"Yep, you can record.

In the case of a telephone or in-person conversation, recording simply means making a copy of the conversation between two or more people. Recording is illegal in Arizona if NO party to the conversation knows that the conversation is being recorded. However, in Arizona, and this varies by state, if one party to the conversation knows that the conversation is being recorded, it is not illegal. Thus, if someone tape records a phone call or conversation involving him/herself and another person, even one who is unaware of being recorded, that’s legal in Arizona. If the same person taps into a phone line and records a conversation between two people who are unaware they are being recorded, it is ILLEGAL. Arizona and federal law are similar in this respect; however, recording conversations is illegal in certain other states unless all parties know of the recording and consent. There may be some cross-jurisdictional issues involved when tape recording a conversation across state or national boundaries. Prior to tape recording, it is recommended that you consult an attorney in the appropriate jurisdiction."

In family court, judges very commonly frown upon parents who record any conversation involving a child.

No matter what the State or Federal law says about it.

You KNOW you've been ordered not to record anything.

 

[Just Blue]

should i type in third person.

No. You could clarify by using nouns. IE...Dad, Child, Dad's Attorney, Mom, Mom's Attorney.

BTW: I NEVER agree with George.

 

[ibethemom]

No,

In family court, judges very commonly frown upon parents who record any conversation involving a child.

No matter what the State or Federal law says about it.

You KNOW you've been ordered not to record anything.

i was ordered not to record his conversation with her as he was ordered not to record my conversation with her. i was not ordered not to record my conversations with her. and as i previously stated; he judge was provided with audio CD of my telephone conversations with her and he did not instruct me to stop. i have been ordered not to interfere as he has been instructed the same (him talking to her, and her talking to me). very commonly does not mean always and our other family judge who rotated was very much aware of recordings. his attorney (dad's) has never addressed the issue as dad is sticking a video camera in front of our daughter asking her if i spank her which is not illegal in AZ to spank a child with an open hand on the bottom fully clothed as long as it does not leave a bruise which is then considered abuse. i have already looked into the ARS regarding that issue. i will be more than happy to supply you with anything you wish to see regarding my order. but if you are not an attorney than how can i trust that you are giving me sound advice or know what you write is truth?

 

[ibethemom]

No. You could clarify by using nouns. IE...Dad, Child, Dad's Attorney, Mom, Mom's Attorney.

BTW: I NEVER agree with George.

i=mom (that's me)
dad=dad (that's the dad)
his attorney = dad's attorney
daughter = child

 

[Proserpina]

i was ordered not to record his conversation with her as he was ordered not to record my conversation with her. i was not ordered not to record my conversations with her. and as i previously stated; he judge was provided with audio CD of my telephone conversations with her and he did not instruct me to stop. i have been ordered not to interfere as he has been instructed the same (him talking to her, and her talking to me). very commonly does not mean always and our other family judge who rotated was very much aware of recordings. his attorney (dad's) has never addressed the issue as dad is sticking a video camera in front of our daughter asking her if i spank her which is not illegal in AZ to spank a child with an open hand on the bottom fully clothed as long as it does not leave a bruise which is then considered abuse. i have already looked into the ARS regarding that issue. i will be more than happy to supply you with anything you wish to see regarding my order. but if you are not an attorney than how can i trust that you are giving me sound advice or know what you write is truth?

Feel free to PAY for an attorney.

That's what you need to do.

Because frankly, we're sick of trolls today.

 

[MommaBearX3]

If you don't want advice from laypeople with tons of experience in this realm-- then you are wasting your time and ours.

Of course, given the fact that troll girl is trolling-- I doubt you really care.

 

[ibethemom]

this urban legend

Feel free to PAY for an attorney.

That's what you need to do.

Because frankly, we're sick of trolls today.

1a. Noun
One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument.

1b. Noun
A person who, on a message forum of some type, attacks and flames other members of the forum for any of a number of reasons such as rank, previous disagreements, sex, status, ect.
A troll usually flames threads without staying on topic, unlike a "Flamer" who flames a thread because he/she disagrees with the content of the thread.

1c. Noun
A member of an internet forum who continually harangues and harasses others. Someone with nothing worthwhile to add to a certain conversation, but rather continually threadjacks or changes the subject, as well as thinks every member of the forum is talking about them and only them. Trolls often go by multiple names to circumvent getting banned.

 

[MommaBearX3]

1a. Noun
One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument.

1b. Noun
A person who, on a message forum of some type, attacks and flames other members of the forum for any of a number of reasons such as rank, previous disagreements, sex, status, ect.
A troll usually flames threads without staying on topic, unlike a "Flamer" who flames a thread because he/she disagrees with the content of the thread.

1c. Noun
A member of an internet forum who continually harangues and harasses others. Someone with nothing worthwhile to add to a certain conversation, but rather continually threadjacks or changes the subject, as well as thinks every member of the forum is talking about them and only them. Trolls often go by multiple names to circumvent getting banned.

The bolding is my own. Check the Hx, nuff said.

 

[ibethemom]

r u talking to me?

If you don't want advice from laypeople with tons of experience in this realm-- then you are wasting your time and ours.

Of course, given the fact that troll girl is trolling-- I doubt you really care.

i have done things that i have been advised of in this thread. i am simply asking how one comes about in having so much experience in these things if not an attorney. experience in this realm? how does someone have so much experience if not an attorney? are you paralegals? court reporters? honestly, how can you proclaim to have tons of experience in this realm when you don't provide me with anything to go by. and if you aren't really reading my questions or things that i have already done than how am i wasting your time?

 

[AkersTile]

1a. Noun
One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument.

1b. Noun
A person who, on a message forum of some type, attacks and flames other members of the forum for any of a number of reasons such as rank, previous disagreements, sex, status, ect.
A troll usually flames threads without staying on topic, unlike a "Flamer" who flames a thread because he/she disagrees with the content of the thread.

1c. Noun
A member of an internet forum who continually harangues and harasses others. Someone with nothing worthwhile to add to a certain conversation, but rather continually threadjacks or changes the subject, as well as thinks every member of the forum is talking about them and only them. Trolls often go by multiple names to circumvent getting banned.

You have a lot of issues. Do you not realize that there are some peoplethat actually want legal advice and don't want to wade through your nonsense? I spend my days with kids ages 3-11 and I still can't comprehend half of what you write. Please go away.

 

[ibethemom]

The bolding is my own. Check the Hx, nuff said.

sorry. i dont speak troll. what is hx?

 

[ibethemom]

i asked for legal

You have a lot of issues. Do you not realize that there are some peoplethat actually want legal advice and don't want to wade through your nonsense? I spend my days with kids ages 3-11 and I still can't comprehend half of what you write. Please go away.

advice. am i less than a parent because i have only one child. i have a legitimate legal concern. are you an attorney?