I did not know

[sometwo]

What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? MO or any /all

That children's services could be called on someone before the baby is born. As in they are in the hospital getting ready to deliver and they were already called in and already went to the house to check things out. Before the baby was going home.


Does this happen often? Is it only by mandated reporters that this happens?

Just curious as I had never heard of this before. There were no previous children in this case but the parents are delayed. One has a guardian on does not.

 

[PQN]

it can happen

It can and does happen. If there is a serious concern that the baby would be at risk, they can intervene while the baby is in the hospital. (They can also test newborns for drugs if suspected.)

With parents who are "delayed" they were likely looking to ensure that they were prepared to bring the baby home and that they had the supports in place to care for the baby.

(3 of our foster children were pulled from the hospital; but all birthmothers were open DCFS cases)

 

[sometwo]

The child is going home with them in this particular case but there is an open ongoing case with the baby. From what I understand they are ordering evaluations and everything of the mom and dad.

 

[mommyof4]

The child is going home with them in this particular case but there is an open ongoing case with the baby. From what I understand they are ordering evaluations and everything of the mom and dad.

...and in this case, understandably so.

It's not 'persecution'. It is ensuring that the child is in a safe environment and that Mom and Dad are fit to parent the child...even if that requires a bit of help.

Unless the parents are an actual danger to the child with no safety net (ie: relatives/friends ready, willing, and able to help out with tasks they may not be equipped to handle) I imagine the open case will remain so and it will be more of a monitoring situation.

 

[PQN]

proof

The child is going home with them in this particular case but there is an open ongoing case with the baby. From what I understand they are ordering evaluations and everything of the mom and dad.

Sadly, in most states CPS can do this. I never understand how they can give out consequences/punishments without going through due process and proving their case.

 

[nextwife]

It can also happen if the baby is born with fetal drug exposures and tests positive for certain substances. Or if the pregnant mom's blood system shows such exposure.

 

[sometwo]

I knew about the suspected drug use that they would come in or if the baby tests positive they would come in. Just didn't realize the other. I am definately glad they did though. Someone needs to watch out for the baby.

Is it usually the mandated reporters like the hospital that calls them in when they are in labor?

 

[Isis1]

Sadly, in most states CPS can do this. I never understand how they can give out consequences/punishments without going through due process and proving their case.

in this instance, it appears justified. no legal interference, just monitoring.

 

[PQN]

orders

in this instance, it appears justified. no legal interference, just monitoring.

Ordering evaluations is interfering with their rights. From the limited info given, they have not done anything to hurt their baby someone is just scared they might, one day neglect/abuse her/him.

I have no problem with CPS offering services to families that may be at-risk but any requirements that are often backed up with threats to take the children and even taking the children without a warrent infuriates me.

I'm a former foster mom that has seen way too many cases where CPS did more damage than the birth parents ever dreamed of doing. (hence the former status)

 

[mommyof4]

Ordering evaluations is interfering with their rights. From the limited info given, they have not done anything to hurt their baby someone is just scared they might, one day neglect/abuse her/him.

I have no problem with CPS offering services to families that may be at-risk but any requirements that are often backed up with threats to take the children and even taking the children without a warrent infuriates me.

I'm a former foster mom that has seen way too many cases where CPS did more damage than the birth parents ever dreamed of doing. (hence the former status)

Uhh...and exactly WHERE was it posted that CPS was threatening to take the child?

Seems to me that CPS did an initial evaluation and safety check and will check in periodically to make sure all is well.

Sorry....I have to come down on the side of the child's safety. Every time.

Obviously, abuse of power is flat out wrong and I in no way support that. But nowhere in this thread was it hinted at, suggested, implied, stated, or alluded to CPS overstepping their bounds.

 

[sometwo]

Ordering evaluations is interfering with their rights. From the limited info given, they have not done anything to hurt their baby someone is just scared they might, one day neglect/abuse her/him.

I have no problem with CPS offering services to families that may be at-risk but any requirements that are often backed up with threats to take the children and even taking the children without a warrent infuriates me.

I'm a former foster mom that has seen way too many cases where CPS did more damage than the birth parents ever dreamed of doing. (hence the former status)

In this case it is justified. The mother cannot make any decisions for her baby because she can't make any decisions herself. The state is in care/control of her because she is incapable of providing for herself.

The father has alot of problems also. Not sure what all but definately some things there.

In this case it was more than justified. The dr knew about mom in this situation and has been her ob/gyn so he may have made the call .

 

[Ohiogal]

Uhh...and exactly WHERE was it posted that CPS was threatening to take the child?

Seems to me that CPS did an initial evaluation and safety check and will check in periodically to make sure all is well.

Sorry....I have to come down on the side of the child's safety. Every time.

Obviously, abuse of power is flat out wrong and I in no way support that. But nowhere in this thread was it hinted at, suggested, implied, stated, or alluded to CPS overstepping their bounds.

Technically they have NO LEGAL RIGHT to do an initial evaluation or checking in periodically without a court order. So yes it is implied, suggested, alluded to that CPS is overstepping their bounds.

 

[mommyof4]

Technically they have NO LEGAL RIGHT to do an initial evaluation or checking in periodically without a court order. So yes it is implied, suggested, alluded to that CPS is overstepping their bounds.

If a call was made to CPS? That makes no sense.

Further, according to OP, the MOTHER is in (to quote OP...and I do NOT know if she means actual state guardianship) care/control of CPS.

 

[sometwo]

Further, according to OP, the MOTHER is in (to quote OP...and I do NOT know if she means actual state guardianship) care/control of CPS.

The mother is in care/control of state by means of she has a public administrator that makes all her decisions and takes care of everything for her.

DCS was called by the hospital (like the dr or nurse I guess someone there)

 

[maryjo]

I dont blame whoever called for calling. Even though they might be delayed that could still be parents. But someone should be watching out for the baby.

What I dont get is why they waited to check out the house until she was in labor. That isnt something that could have been done before that?