Illegal Entry,Search and Seizure,Invasion of Privacy

[shawnintennesse]

Excuse me, but I thought this site was suppose to be productive for those people in need of advice. You seem to enjoy bashing those seeking help from somewhere, but who are not able to afford high priced legal help. The response I provided was not an ignorant response, nor was it bashing someone needing help. Neither was it a commercial venture. It was meant as help for someone asking for suggestions. Ever hear the old saying, "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all." You seem to take amusement in someone's plight. That demonstrates someone full of mean, angry, tendencies. Help, or get help. And don't imply things about people you know nothing about. That in itself is ignorance.

Welcome to Tennessee!!!! And thats the truth...

 

[timeteacher]

Good Luck With Sincerity

- I hope some genuine help was offered, although it was not much. I teach American History and Government so cases like yours don't make me a happy person. I had a friend who got stopped out in Midland, Tx. on Interstate 20 by a deputy once. He was a contractor going home on Friday to Abilene when he was pulled over for a crooked license plate. The deputy asked to search his truck, he asked why and was told he was part of a drug task force looking for illegal transportation of drugs on the interstate. When the friend calmly objected he was handcuffed, his truck searched, the lic. plate being the "probable cause." Even after finding nothing this friend was hauled in for the plate having a bolt missing, had to post bail, hire an attorney. This is a responsible guy running his own company with a wife and five kids. Of course, the D.A. dropped the plate charge, but it was still an injustice. One attorney in Midland was so outraged at the frequency of such abuses, such as the friend's case, that the attorney rented a billboard along the interstate and put up a big sign which read, " JUST SAY NO...TO ILLEGAL SEARCHES." The county removed it, but it brought enough attention that the media caught wind of it, state legislators started getting calls, and finally the Texas Dept. of Public Safety started an investigation of the local procedures for conducting searches. When the people who enforce the law start breaking it in the name of the law, which some bad ones do, they become just as guilty as those they accuse. They then need to be fired, as the ones who you stated violated your rights should be. Unfortunately it's not a perfect world, but it wasn't in the early 1770's either. Look what those guys did when they had enough. They griped about the same injustices and now we call them patriots, name cities, schools, and memorials after them, put them on our currency, but still need reminding sometimes why they did what they did. Cops who violate a person's rights betray every ounce of blood ever spilled defending the ideals of what our nation was founded on. They're not all that way, but those who are need to be reminded they betray what this country was suppose to stand for. Abuse of power is the stuff tyranny is made of.

 

[shawnintennesse]

- I hope some genuine help was offered, although it was not much. I teach American History and Government so cases like yours don't make me a happy person. I had a friend who got stopped out in Midland, Tx. on Interstate 20 by a deputy once. He was a contractor going home on Friday to Abilene when he was pulled over for a crooked license plate. The deputy asked to search his truck, he asked why and was told he was part of a drug task force looking for illegal transportation of drugs on the interstate. When the friend calmly objected he was handcuffed, his truck searched, the lic. plate being the "probable cause." Even after finding nothing this friend was hauled in for the plate having a bolt missing, had to post bail, hire an attorney. This is a responsible guy running his own company with a wife and five kids. Of course, the D.A. dropped the plate charge, but it was still an injustice. One attorney in Midland was so outraged at the frequency of such abuses, such as the friend's case, that the attorney rented a billboard along the interstate and put up a big sign which read, " JUST SAY NO...TO ILLEGAL SEARCHES." The county removed it, but it brought enough attention that the media caught wind of it, state legislators started getting calls, and finally the Texas Dept. of Public Safety started an investigation of the local procedures for conducting searches. When the people who enforce the law start breaking it in the name of the law, which some bad ones do, they become just as guilty as those they accuse. They then need to be fired, as the ones who you stated violated your rights should be. Unfortunately it's not a perfect world, but it wasn't in the early 1770's either. Look what those guys did when they had enough. They griped about the same injustices and now we call them patriots, name cities, schools, and memorials after them, put them on our currency, but still need reminding sometimes why they did what they did. Cops who violate a person's rights betray every ounce of blood ever spilled defending the ideals of what our nation was founded on. They're not all that way, but those who are need to be reminded they betray what this country was suppose to stand for. Abuse of power is the stuff tyranny is made of.

Here,here,
I belive in everything you just said and more.
It's statments like that,that make me proud to be an American!!!

 

[EvilWizard]

How often are these so-called injustices reported where the victims leave out information like "I told the officer to kiss my @ss". I'm willing to bet that a good deal of the time if people initially spoke to an officer respectfully/politely then a lot of these incidents would not occur. Personally if you are a complete ass to a cop when you get pulled over or when they respond to a call about you then I have no sympathy to being held up for a few extra hours...

To the OP: What happened that made the cop go in and search your house? You make it seem like he knew exactly where to go to find your stash...

 

[shawnintennesse]

How often are these so-called injustices reported where the victims leave out information like "I told the officer to kiss my @ss". I'm willing to bet that a good deal of the time if people initially spoke to an officer respectfully/politely then a lot of these incidents would not occur. Personally if you are a complete ass to a cop when you get pulled over or when they respond to a call about you then I have no sympathy to being held up for a few extra hours...

To the OP: What happened that made the cop go in and search your house? You make it seem like he knew exactly where to go to find your stash...

They searched the whole house without a warrant. Didnt need to know right where anything is.
I never told them what your saying. I was pollite up till the point when they were in my house illegally. And it still makes it illegal either way.
They have to have that peice of paper saying where there searching.
If you read. This wasnt a pull over on the road. This was my house..

 

[shawnintennesse]

March 22nd 2006 US Supreme Court.

They searched the whole house without a warrant. Didnt need to know right where anything is.
I never told them what your saying. I was pollite up till the point when they were in my house illegally. And it still makes it illegal either way.
They have to have that peice of paper saying where there searching.
If you read. This wasnt a pull over on the road. This was my house..

Update for the real people who are intrested. I havent been on here since January. Anyways i've been in the process of going to suit in the US District Court Of Middle Tennessee.
I filed on January,20th 2006. March 22nd 2006 the Supreme court ruled. There is no probable cause or consent without a warrant. Period.
So i now have a clear case for summary judgment!!!

 

[Ohiogal]

Yes i think i see what your saying.
But to take it to suit in District Court in the first place you have to sue for at least $75,000.

If this was Ohio i would have attorneys beating down my door to take this on.

So also what your saying is you dont have the proff in front of you right?

I beg to differ with you. We in Ohio wouldn't take this case because you PLED. If it was illegal you should have fought it. You didn't.

 

[Ohiogal]

First, thank you for your genuine opinions. And i know its Illegal Entry and Search and Seizure.
They want you to belive that Tennessee has a set of laws that arent governed by the Goverment. But thats not so.
But Tennesee's constituion is the same as the US.
But Tennessee's come more front on Illegal Entry and Search and seizure. Tennessee is popular for this kind of stuff. And people let them get away with it. But im not from Tennessee.
I'm from Ohio. And this country is this country!!!
And yes theres no doubt it was an Illegal search and seizure.
I just today was at the poilice station.
This is a cop that has done this before...

And again you pled guilty/cut a deal. you said you were guilty for whatever reason. if it was an illegal search you should have lawyered up, got the search tossed and went back at it. Instead you didn't. You said you did it for whatever reason. You have no damages. (Your own stupidity at pleading is not a damage as a result of the search but rather as a result of your own bad decisionmaking.) And Ohio attorneys like me know a turkey when they see it. This one gobbles.

 

[shawnintennesse]

And again you pled guilty/cut a deal. you said you were guilty for whatever reason. if it was an illegal search you should have lawyered up, got the search tossed and went back at it. Instead you didn't. You said you did it for whatever reason. You have no damages. (Your own stupidity at pleading is not a damage as a result of the search but rather as a result of your own bad decisionmaking.) And Ohio attorneys like me know a turkey when they see it. This one gobbles.

Nope your wrong.. It was dissmissed out this morning. There is no charge!!!!
In fedral court Constituional rights are no joke whatever state your in.
Civial suits arent legal suits. There civil. 42 USC 1983...

I never plead guilty.
I took a plea to have the charge dissmissed off my record.
Today was the end. I repeat i didnt plead to the charge. A charge if there was one dosen't stop you in a civil action period.