I'm being investigated by CPS, HELP!

[rmet4nzkx]

posted byrmet4nzkx


I didn't mention conspiracy, but it is a BIG BROTHER MISTAKE!
And they better realize it soon or we are doomed to pay the consiquences!

And you, as many others seem to mistake corporal punishment for a BEATING!
Did I say I beat my kids? Therein lies the problem with the DO_GOODERS and BIG BROTHER! These are people that don't understand parenting.

Let me ask you. Do you think Sadam Hussein would have quit being the threat to the region that he was if the US would have threatened to put him in TIME_OUT for ten minutes?

Of course not! And kids will only respond to that kind of punishment for a short time and then they will tell you to take a long hike off a short pier! Then what is your choices? You've already spent years teaching them that it's not going to hurt them to disobey, so now you are reaping what you sowed!

I say again; you don't have a clue!

You haven't a clue!

Please define corporal punishment for us all then.

My children turned wonderful and in fact both have served their country with honor the Marine is a disabled war vet and other Army served in Bosnia and currently in Iraq. So don't Sadam Hussein us here that has nothing to do with a 3 year old child's face being slamed into a floor, there is no way to justify that action. So you are saying that slamming a 3 year old child's face into the floor is corporal punishment and better than beating! Ever heard of brain damage?

I have reaped what I sowed, two fine young gentleman who have served their country and raised beautiful grand daughters, who's worst offense so far is to go to bed with gum in her mouth and getting it into her waist length hair, which my son, carefully removed with peanut butter all the while trying to keep a straight face, grandmother could laugh with the safety of distance.

You get a clue.

 

[CdwJava]

To add MY two cents ... I DO spank my children - and I have occasionally slapped them as well.

I believe that corporal punishment is sometimes necessary, and I do not consider it abuse.

Unfortunately, while the majority of cops think as I do, the majority of CPS workers (social workers by trade) tend to be extemely ... well ... liberal, and they tend to think that any physical contact is abuse.

- Carl

 

[rmet4nzkx]

To add MY two cents ... I DO spank my children - and I have occasionally slapped them as well.

I believe that corporal punishment is sometimes necessary, and I do not consider it abuse.

Unfortunately, while the majority of cops think as I do, the majority of CPS workers (social workers by trade) tend to be extemely ... well ... liberal, and they tend to think that any physical contact is abuse.

- Carl

Spanking with your bare hand, not leaivng bruises is one thing.
Leaving bruises on a toddler is another.
I also understand how frustrating raising children can be, they can be very very stubborn and have raised my own as well as others during times of crisis. I have never spanked any of them, although I did threaten to a few times.

 

[azgrandpa]

posted by rmet4nzkx

So you are saying that slamming a 3 year old child's face into the floor is corporal punishment and better than beating! Ever heard of brain damage?

No that isn't corporal punishment! And if I remember correctly, the OP said she was "rough housing" with the child! Not punishing the child! Now if the term "rough housing" bothers you; TOUGH! The OP was PROBABLY playing with the child and an innocent accident occured!!

My understanding of corporal punishment is SPANKING! NOT BEATING! Spanking is a CONTROLLED hitting (preferrably on the buttocks), without anger to teach the child that the thing they did was wrong and, just as in adult life; if you do wrong there will be consequences to suffer that may hurt!!

Now, I'm happy your kids grew up healthy and good people. A couple less for me to worry about kidnapping, raping or killing my grandkids!

 

[azgrandpa]

posted by rmet4nzkx

Spanking with your bare hand, not leaivng bruises is one thing.
Leaving bruises on a toddler is another.
I also understand how frustrating raising children can be, they can be very very stubborn and have raised my own as well as others during times of crisis. I have never spanked any of them, although I did threaten to a few times.

You know, in animal training, you are never to use your hand to hit the animal. The animal will then associate your hand with an unpleasant event! Why would it be that different with a child?

Maybe we haven't learned from history,(as usual), maybe grandma's whipping with a switch wasn't all that awful after all! The switch hurt like hell but couldn't break a bone or bruise you! You sure knew you did wrong and I sure didn't grow up wanting to rape, kill or massacre thousands of people to get even with my grandma!

 

[rmet4nzkx]

posted by rmet4nzkx


No that isn't corporal punishment! And if I remember correctly, the OP said she was "rough housing" with the child! Not punishing the child! Now if the term "rough housing" bothers you; TOUGH! The OP was PROBABLY playing with the child and an innocent accident occured!!

This is going to come across as a sterotype but competent unimpaired mothers don't roughhouse with toddlers, (Males roughhouse with toddlers) it's not in their genes, and if they did, it would be in a controlled environment where there were no sharp edges etc. "Stop roughhousing!" is a pre-programmed response as is looking for dangers and warning children of dangers. How many times did I have to warn my boys to climb up the ladder and slide down the slide and not the other way around. I kept telling them that if they played around on the slide, they might fall off on their head. One day, another child did just that, and my son was a believer ever after!

The child said mommy slapped him when independently quesitoned. OP's story just doens't ring true. If it had been an accident, she would have sought medical care or at least informed the father of the accident when she brought the child for visitation.

 

[azgrandpa]

Did it ever occur to you that she may have been terrified to take the child for care, specifically because all doctors are over sensitive to their responsibility to report suspicious injuries to CPS?

How many stories have I heard about dr.s reporting injuries and the horror that followed for an innocent accident!! I can't even count them!

I guess my involvement with this discussion is because of the attitude of most people to blame the parent if a child gets a bruise! Sure, I want all children to be protected from abuse. BUT, we have got to get back to letting the parents, at least be innocent until proven guilty! We can't protect every child and it is so wrong to break up a loving innocent family, just because we are being OVER PROTECTIVE!

 

[CdwJava]

Did it ever occur to you that she may have been terrified to take the child for care, specifically because all doctors are over sensitive to their responsibility to report suspicious injuries to CPS?

Whether they are "over senstitive" or not, doctrors in CA are required to report them. Failure to do so can result in civil and even criminal charges. Most of the time, these reports go nowhere. Sometimes there is sufficient cause to believe a crime or improper act occurred.

- Carl

 

[Hisbabygirl77]

Ok rmet I respect your post and can see that you know your stuff but to say that women do not "roughhouse" with their children is just plain silly. I rough house with my children all the time. We play fight and do tickle attacks and all sorts of stuff. Quite often I am on the ground playing with the kids. Me and my baby against the older two lol and they love it. No one has ever gotten hurt unless you count the occasional mommy my tummy hurts from laughing to hard. But I could see how it could happen. Accidents happen. Also I have seen black eyes happen from a child falling face first on a totally flat surface. My brother when he was young fell flat face and hit his nose making his eye look like it had a black eye. Just wanted to say mom's do rough house with children. I think the poster may have meant more in the way of tickling or something. Havent you ever been on your back with your little one laying on your bent legs and holding their hands while they "fly" in the air. To some that may be called roughhousing as well as "tickle attacks" like my kids call them.