I'm confused

[Exsisto]

What is the name of your state? Indiana

I got this email attachment from my ex today.

March 3, 2004

Marion County Prosecutor
Child Support Division
200 E Washington St. (W123)
Indianapolis, IN 46240-3335

RE: Child Support Increase

It has been determined by Mom (Payee) and Dad (Payor) that an increase of $15.00 per week will be in effect beginning March 1, 2004.

Due to a freeze on my checking account, the $120.00 check for payment for February 2004 is no good and I will send a money order Friday for that amount.


Dad
Street Address
Indianapolis, In zipcode

Now, he says he's doing what I told him to do.

The reality of the situation is this: I cannot accept direct pay and signed a paper at the clerk's office saying so. A few nights after I email him this fact he tries to write me a check for a support supplement. I ask him "why don't you put this through the Prosecutor's Office?" as he is in arrears and it makes no sense to give me money directly and not put all money towards child support and arrears.

He takes it upon himself to speak for me to the Prosecutor's Office to raise child support. This person says he gets papers from the Prosecutor's Office suggesting a raise in support periodically but I have never received any such papers.

What do I need to do?

 

[tigger22472]

I'm not sure what you are asking but if you want to assure he pays through the prosecuters office from now.. (mind you my court order is in Marion County also)... You may want to tell him that since the court order says it goes through them any money he gives you DIRECTLY CAN be consdiered a gift. Do I find that right??? No.. not really but it might make him think twice. My ex gave me 323$ directly even though the order is through CSE and I did report it.. However, I was even told by that lady that I didn't HAVE to... I was fair... as I'd hope you would also but like you I didn't like the idea of it coming straight to me.

 

[BL]

He takes it upon himself to speak for me to the Prosecutor's Office to raise child support. This person says he gets papers from the Prosecutor's Office suggesting a raise in support periodically but I have never received any such papers.

[quote ]

He is in arrears but signs papers as you ,for raises in CS ?

I don't understand .

 

[Exsisto]

He sent in a letter stating this to the Prosecutor's office:

It has been determined by CP Name and NCP Name that an increase of $15.00 per week will be in effect beginning March 1, 2004.

Due to a freeze on my checking account, the $120.00 check for payment for February 2004 is no good and I will send a money order Friday for that amount.


- There was no conversation between he and I of this. I told him of a meeting I had with a clerk at the office making sure he had been given credit for direct pay due to a change in my address (I had no change, someone split my street address into two words for some reason and checks stopped coming to my house) he started paying me by check while I got it straightened out which took months. I signed a paper that I could no longer give him credit and there was to be no more direct pay. A few nights later he tried to give me a check. I told him to put the money through the office like he was supposed to and reminded him of the meeting and email I sent him about it. It seems now (just over a month later) he believes I told him to raise the support and he is speaking on my behalf.

 

[nextwife]

Is he paying? If so, you are upset about the increase WHY?

 

[Exsisto]

No, he is not paying. Either the check he sent in they returned to him because either they don't accept personal checks for child support payments (it says on the signs at the payment windows they don't accept personal checks) or it bounced because as he told me on February 22nd, his bank accounts are frozen. Or maybe there was an NSF ordeal.

The question I have, if this paper that he sent into the office is not signed by both parties are they even going to acknowledge it? Let me put it up again so you don't have to search this thread.

March 3, 2004

Marion County Prosecutor
Child Support Division
200 E Washington St. (W123)
Indianapolis, IN 46240-3335

RE: Child Support Increase

It has been determined by Mom (Payee) and Dad (Payor) that an increase of $15.00 per week will be in effect beginning March 1, 2004.

Due to a freeze on my checking account, the $120.00 check for payment for February 2004 is no good and I will send a money order Friday for that amount.


Dad
Street Address
Indianapolis, In zipcode

 

[BL]

Maybe the Freeze is because of arrears. The collection unit will do that . Have the seized any money from his account ?

I would give those fine folks at the collection office a call and ask what you should do. If your in need of the funds take the Money Order, then let them know .

 

[tigger22472]

All I can say is "lots of luck' working with Marion County CSE.. when it gets too hard they find reasons to stop!! I've even been told stories of when they have their state meetings.

 

[Exsisto]

I called the office asking about the check, giving them the information on Monday February 23rd. The person who answered the phone said "I don't show a payment made, only thing I can think of is the check was returned because we don't accept checks as payment."

All I know is the timeline.

January 31st: Alleged mail date - Saturday. Mail would have been delivered by Tuesday February 3rd.

February 22nd: I am told bank accounts are frozen as of the week before. Could have been as early as Monday February 16th.

March 3rd: Copy of letter emailed to me supposedly sent via snail mail to office saying we both determine there will be an increase.


Now, last time he went through a big show of making sure I knew he was making an effort was right before and after Christmas. Shows up at my workplace with a paper showing the garnishment order from a job he had for three weeks and telling me how much I will be getting with the new amount that includes the increase due to arrears. Says he will be sending in payment with his next paycheck. This was December 23rd. Payment received at office was January 5th, payment mailed from office was January 7th. I got a payment for two weeks on January 8th. The only payment in seven months.

Now, if he mailed a payment on Jan. 31st, they get it on Tuesday February 3rd. Give the same amount of time, this time without a holiday to consider, then another nine business days before said bank account freeze something just isn't right. Either he would have told me sooner (if you were a non paying NCP wouldn't you make your story known immediately if not sooner?) or he's lying about the payment attempt, sent a personal check knowing it wouldn't be accepted or didn't send it in at all.

Funny thing to me is he told me he called the office on December 12th (the date on the paper he showed me and later I copied for my own records) telling them where he worked so they can start collecting CS from his earnings when he showed me the paper. Reality is I called them on December 11th, the day he told me where he was working.

The reason given for the bank account freeze is he is being sued is because of a lease agreement he didn't live up to. Borrowed money, leased office space, opened a recruiting business, failed immediately and never met good with his end of the bargain and is being sued for the entire year of lease on the space to the tune of $6000.

 

[Eurynome]

I do not understand how he can miss a payment, or twenty of them, if he showed you the garnishment forms for his employer... If his checks are being garnished, then CSE is automatically taking the child support out of his checks, and mailing them to you. Has he transfered to a new location and the paperwork was not forwarded? Did he lose his job, and now has a new one?

Want my advice, you need to be stern with the CSE. I never got anywhere with my CSE until I got "fresh" and serious with the people. Don't let these people push you around, you have rights, and they are well aware of them as well. They are there to serve you- not the other way around.

I wish you the best of luck, and I can not offer you any other advice. I just call and bitch at my CSE when I need things done, and then it gets taken care of. But that is my style of processing, so to speak.

 

[Exsisto]

Eury, he did change jobs. He has been working for the same person he rents a room from, used to work with part time and goes out and drinks with. He's working on a contract basis (1099) or under the table. I sent in the job information. I always do as he has changed jobs three times since December and has settled in with this guy since January 13th.

Yes, I am past tired of chasing this guy around town and hunting down the money owed.

 

[Exsisto]

Finally got through to the Prosecutor's office - Child support division.

Without an official form of modification they won't do anything about the CS. The letter he sent in means squat.

There is no record of payment or attempted payment other than January 5, 2004 with the office.

 

[BL]

Isn't that nice? A co. he owes money to can have a freeze put on his account, but CS ( for the care of the child-ren ), can go on and on w/o any of the same action being taken.

Ahhh what systems we have in America .

 

[tigger22472]

Isn't that nice? A co. he owes money to can have a freeze put on his account, but CS ( for the care of the child-ren ), can go on and on w/o any of the same action being taken.

Ahhh what systems we have in America .

BL.. my favorite is when you call them and say.. "I know he's working but I don't know where"... then they tell you how they can't do anything.... yet YOU have their SS#... Yet they tell you that they can't use that SS# to find out where he's paying taxes from.

 

[BL]

Tigger don't that get all ?

They think the actual public ( who they get paid to serve ) are illiterate & w/o common sense .

Then if you enlighten them, it's another excuse . lol