imposing sanctions for lying...

[sotiredofit]

What is the name of your state? CA

Ok, everyone. My husband and I ended our marriage with a stipulated agreement with an agreed upon amount for child support and alimony. Ok, he has recently filed an OSC to have both lowered and I just found out that he had lied to me for over 3 years concerning the monthly amount he was getting from his private insurance company. I used the amount he verbally told me he was getting to come to an agreement on support. Here's my question:

Can I file a motion for the judge to impose and award me monetary sanctions against him because he lied, meaning he failed to disclose his true and complete assets and monthly income when we were negotiating the stipulation? We did not have a trial, again it was a marital stipulation. I do not believe the ex filed a income and expense declaration back then, but here is my proof: The ex helped me to get an apartment and we used his income as I was unemployed at the time. In an effort to continue to lie to me about his income, I'm sure he sent the leasing office altered payment stubs from his disability checks. In this new OSC he just filed, he stated his income from disability to be a certain amount, higher than he told me from the beginning, and he stated the month and year the disability company started paying him. That means that if I get the altered stubs from our rental file at the apartment complex, that is proof he lied to me because he had been getting the higher amount all along. Is this enough proof for the judge to order sanctions?? If so, can I ask the judge to order the ex to pay the sanctions in full within the year? Thanks.

 

[fairisfair]

What is the name of your state? CA

Ok, everyone. My husband and I ended our marriage with a stipulated agreement with an agreed upon amount for child support and alimony. Ok, he has recently filed an OSC to have both lowered and I just found out that he had lied to me for over 3 years concerning the monthly amount he was getting from his private insurance company. I used the amount he verbally told me he was getting to come to an agreement on support. Here's my question:

Can I file a motion for the judge to impose and award me monetary sanctions against him because he lied, meaning he failed to disclose his true and complete assets and monthly income when we were negotiating the stipulation? We did not have a trial, again it was a marital stipulation. I do not believe the ex filed a income and expense declaration back then, but here is my proof: The ex helped me to get an apartment and we used his income as I was unemployed at the time. In an effort to continue to lie to me about his income, I'm sure he sent the leasing office altered payment stubs from his disability checks. In this new OSC he just filed, he stated his income from disability to be a certain amount, higher than he told me from the beginning, and he stated the month and year the disability company started paying him. That means that if I get the altered stubs from our rental file at the apartment complex, that is proof he lied to me because he had been getting the higher amount all along. Is this enough proof for the judge to order sanctions?? If so, can I ask the judge to order the ex to pay the sanctions in full within the year? Thanks.

Let's be sure we have this right first.

your EX helped you get an apartment, while you were unemployed, and now you want to use the information from that to screw him?

Let no good deed go unpunished.

Sorry, no help from me. on this one.

 

[Ohiogal]

Before anyone else responds

https://forum.freeadvice.com/showthread.php?p=1774042&posted=1#post1774042
make sure you check this thread as well as the rest of OPs posting history. She attacked her ex's new wife and is making excuses. She believes that beating his ex wife is excused because he allegedly tried to choke her (OP admits beating on the wife and states that her ex tried to choke her in order to remove her from the ex wife) and then when he and the wife tried to leave afterwards she attacked the vehicle by pounding on it and trying to get at the new wife again. She is a VIOLENT abusive woman who refuses to own up to her responsibility in the whole situation.

 

[>Charlotte<]

This is one of those rare times when all we have is her side of the story, and I still feel sorry for the other guy.

 

[LdiJ]

This is one of those rare times when all we have is her side of the story, and I still feel sorry for the other guy.

Actually, I don't feel sorry for her OR him. I do however, feel sorry for the children.

 

[sotiredofit]

Let's be sure we have this right first.

your EX helped you get an apartment, while you were unemployed, and now you want to use the information from that to screw him?

Let no good deed go unpunished.

Sorry, no help from me. on this one.

Who cares, fair is fair. The help will come from somewhere. If you're not going to be of help, why not stop posting on this board. The ex helped me get an apartment, true. But, does that justify him lying for 3 years about his income. I don't think so. He was hurting the kids who would have benefited from the extra money. Do you feel proud of yourself, fair? Your response and views are pretty pathetic. So are Ohiogal's by the way.

Also, Ohiogal, if you're going to talk about people on here, you need to get the story straight. The ex's wife got out of her vehicle and assaulted me. She hit first, not me. Therefore it is my right to hit back out of self-defense. I wonder if you are making any money as a family law attorney. I would not have you as my lawyer, no way! You are very verbally abusive and judgemental. You seem to think you are above it all. You're not.

 

[CourtClerk]

Actually, you started that whole fight by hitting your ex in the head. If I were his wife, I would have handed you your ass on a platter too...

Now, since it is painfully clear that you will not get any answers to any of your questions here on this board, and you are feeling so "attacked" (as you put it) by some of the Senior Members of this board, may I suggest that since you have an attorney you pose your questions to him/her? Wait... I think I see someone coming:

Referee steps on the Freeadvice Field and throws yellow flag into the air...

Bullsh*t flag on the play. 200 yard penalty on the OP​

 

[sotiredofit]

Actually, you started that whole fight by hitting your ex in the head. If I were his wife, I would have handed you your ass on a platter too...

Now, since it is painfully clear that you will not get any answers to any of your questions here on this board, and you are feeling so "attacked" (as you put it) by some of the Senior Members of this board, may I suggest that since you have an attorney you pose your questions to him/her? Wait... I think I see someone coming:

Referee steps on the Freeadvice Field and throws yellow flag into the air...

Bullsh*t flag on the play. 200 yard penalty on the OP​

Sounds like you're just angry that I'm right, and you're not...And it's not painfully at all. I'm getting advice from other sources as we speak.

for the record, I'll post anywhere I like...If you don't like it read elsewhere, kwim?

 

[CourtClerk]

You're right about what? So far you haven't proved that you're right about anything except that you are horribly immature. And you can continue to post here if you like, however, don't then ..about the response you get. Just like you can post where ever you like, we can answer the way we like, kwim?

And for the record, I could never be angry at anything about you... I myself, could never be so pathetic and find myself in the position you are in. I'm just smarter than that. All. Day. Long.

 

[sotiredofit]

You're right about what? So far you haven't proved that you're right about anything except that you are horribly immature. And you can continue to post here if you like, however, don't then ...about the response you get. Just like you can post where ever you like, we can answer the way we like, kwim?

And for the record, I could never be angry at anything about you... I myself, could never be so pathetic and find myself in the position you are in. I'm just smarter than that. All. Day. Long.

The position I'm in? Hmm. I'm doing pretty well, actually. Getting ready to have him imputed and imposed with sanctions. Not bad for someone representing herself, kwim?

As for being smarter? Naw. Not even close. Knowing more about legal matters hardly makes you smarter, court clerk. Kwim?
For one thing, look at how you're spending your evening. You call this productive? Kwim?

 

[CourtClerk]

No, I don't kwim... I've never needed anyone to help me get the roof over my head. I've always been able to do that on my own... ever since I was an adult. I never needed to sit around and try to figure out how to continually screw my ex. I've never had my ass kicked by him and/or his wife either.

And as for you representing yourself... what happened to the attorney you had in the other threads???? LMAOOOO

As for productivity... you are equally as productive aren't you? Yes, everything else is done, just waiting to go shopping and I need a little comedy... so I read your posts. At least I have a full time job to go back to on Monday. You know... all that substitute teaching you are only capable of doing... that little bit of money you are making. Go ahead, now go back and try to clean up what you said in your other threads to make it look like you are making a 6 figure salary. That you have some huge home and you really don't NEED your ex's money. Forget the fact that you have already said

I've only made 1k a month tops in the last year.

Yes, I'm my judge's clerk. You know... that nice person that sits right to the right of the judge in the courtroom looking at you like the fool you are? oh, and by the way, that 1K you make a month??? I made that this week.

 

[sotiredofit]

No, I don't kwim... I've never needed anyone to help me get the roof over my head. I've always been able to do that on my own... ever since I was an adult. I never needed to sit around and try to figure out how to continually screw my ex. I've never had my ass kicked by him and/or his wife either.

And as for you representing yourself... what happened to the attorney you had in the other threads???? LMAOOOO

As for productivity... you are equally as productive aren't you? Yes, everything else is done, just waiting to go shopping and I need a little comedy... so I read your posts. At least I have a full time job to go back to on Monday. You know... all that substitute teaching you are only capable of doing... that little bit of money you are making. Go ahead, now go back and try to clean up what you said in your other threads to make it look like you are making a 6 figure salary. That you have some huge home and you really don't NEED your ex's money. Forget the fact that you have already said
Yes, I'm my judge's clerk. You know... that nice person that sits right to the right of the judge in the courtroom looking at you like the fool you are? oh, and by the way, that 1K you make a month??? I made that this week.

Of course you're a clerk, did you think I thought you were a judge? Fat chance of that with the way you talk.

You don't have a clue, do you? I'm a credentialed school psychologist, dear. Capable of making a helluva lot more than your 1k a week. 1k a week? That's laughable. I'm laughing at you.

As far as my attorney goes, she's on consultation. At this point, I don't really need her. We'll see what happens after the hearing and if I need to file an appeal or not, kwim?

 

[Grayson]

That has to be the dumbest response tonight.

Pointing out negatively how someone is spending their evening when you yourself are on here as well.

I also think you need to realize this is a forum full of educated people giving FREE ADVICE, and aren't here to try to read through someone's post that feels the need to use Texting Language such as your "kwim".

If you think you know how its all going to go down for you and have other resources why come and bother the people here who can spend their time helping people who actually take their answers not whine like a little kid when they hear what they didn't wish to hear.

Its been said once and once again you won't find what you're looking for here as it seems everyone is in agreeance with the situation yet you still post here. So I guess wasting your time is how you wish to spend your evening too then?

 

[sotiredofit]

Oh, one more thing: as far as wanting help from you. Now that I know your career position, do you think so?

I'll give you an example, if you have a brain tumor, who do you go see? A brain surgeon or a medical assistant? I'll let you answer that one...

*Hint* You would be the medical assistant in the above analogy, dear. Kwim?

 

[sotiredofit]

That has to be the dumbest response tonight.

Pointing out negatively how someone is spending their evening when you yourself are on here as well.

You're forgeting one thing, Grayson. Courtclerk is supposedly here helping people. I'm not. So is her evening productive? You tell me.

Conversely, if she's here to make a fool out of herself, she's doing a bang up job!