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[LdiJ]

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All three parties acknowledged that the intent was for the guy to relinquish all rights and obligations.

A one night stand isn't anywhere near the same thing.

Am I missing something?

That part of it does bother me. I am quite sure that the lesbian couple to whom he provided the sperm isn't any happier than he is that he has been declared the legal father.

 

[Ohiogal]

That part of it does bother me. I am quite sure that the lesbian couple to whom he provided the sperm isn't any happier than he is that he has been declared the legal father.

The lesbian couple (or portion thereof) filed for child support. When they filed for public assistance, they named him because that is the only way the state would have had his address. In other words, they were involved in getting him on the hook to pay child support.

 

[CJane]

The lesbian couple (or portion thereof) filed for child support. Hence, ....

No. The STATE filed for child support, in an effort to recoup the $6000 +/- that had been paid out in TANF benefits. Mom initially claimed she didn't know WHO the father was, but that didn't work out so well because she'd already publicly (like, in the newspaper) thanked him for his 'donation'.

If his appeal holds up because of the contract, fine, I'm good with that. If the appeal holds up based on his attorney's argument that he didn't have an intimate relationship with the Mother, and has no relationship with the child, I think that's a VERY bad thing.

 

[Ohiogal]

No. The STATE filed for child support, in an effort to recoup the $6000 +/- that had been paid out in TANF benefits. Mom initially claimed she didn't know WHO the father was, but that didn't work out so well because she'd already publicly (like, in the newspaper) thanked him for his 'donation'.

If his appeal holds up because of the contract, fine, I'm good with that. If the appeal holds up based on his attorney's argument that he didn't have an intimate relationship with the Mother, and has no relationship with the child, I think that's a VERY bad thing.

I edited.
In other words, Mom lied. She tried to commit FRAUD. I have no sympathy for her. I agree with you. But I don't think the "contract" is acceptable. If they had done this the PROPER way and not engaged in donating sperm by using the penis-in-vagina method that would have been one thing. I disagree with LD's assertion that the Lesbian couple isn't happy. They started this whole thing by applying for public assistance and NOT going through a proper sperm donor bank.

 

[LdiJ]

I edited.
In other words, Mom lied. She tried to commit FRAUD. I have no sympathy for her. I agree with you. But I don't think the "contract" is acceptable. If they had done this the PROPER way and not engaged in donating sperm by using the penis-in-vagina method that would have been one thing. I disagree with LD's assertion that the Lesbian couple isn't happy. They started this whole thing by applying for public assistance and NOT going through a proper sperm donor bank.

I kind of think that its more likely that it was a turkey baster type situation rather than actual intercourse. Of course the lesbian couple shouldn't have filed for benefits or should have done things the proper way, but that doesn't mean that they are happy about the situation.

 

[CJane]

I edited.
In other words, Mom lied. She tried to commit FRAUD. I have no sympathy for her. I agree with you. But I don't think the "contract" is acceptable. If they had done this the PROPER way and not engaged in donating sperm by using the penis-in-vagina method that would have been one thing. I disagree with LD's assertion that the Lesbian couple isn't happy. They started this whole thing by applying for public assistance and NOT going through a proper sperm donor bank.

I don't think it was via intercourse, or he'd have a hard time claiming he didn't have an intimate relationship with the mother.

But I also think the contract is faulty - especially since there are multiple copies of said contract floating around, and they're not all the same.

 

[Just Blue]

Well, I heard the story on NPR this morning, but the fauxnews link is the first one The Google handed me. It's all about balance.

I actually spent the last 10 mins LMBO. My American brain processed "faux" as "fu**news"

 

[Bloopy]

I didn't have the impression that the couple still exists. Were this a real ligitimate sperm-donor contract, Mom's ex-partner would have been assigned parental responsibilities. Permanatly.

Mom was claiming "no father" and mooching off TANF. Damn straight they'd find the father just like they would a straight mother with no relationship with the father.

Whether she gets income from TANF or bio-father, she got what she sought. She has a baby and financial assistance.

 

[Ohiogal]

I didn't have the impression that the couple still exists. Were this a real ligitimate sperm-donor contract, Mom's ex-partner would have been assigned parental responsibilities. Permanatly.

Mom was claiming "no father" and mooching off TANF. Damn straight they'd find the father just like they would a straight mother with no relationship with the father.

Whether she gets income from TANF or bio-father, she got what she sought. She has a baby and financial assistance.

According to the articles, the couple broke up. But the laws haven't caught up with same sex couples -- many states father is male and mother is female and that is the end of it. Mom's ex partner would not have had any rights depending on the state.

 

[CJane]

According to the articles, the couple broke up. But the laws haven't caught up with same sex couples -- many states father is male and mother is female and that is the end of it. Mom's ex partner would not have had any rights depending on the state.

It's unlikely Kansas is *ever going to catch up. Last I knew, you still couldn't get your gender officially changed on government documents if you had reassignment surgery. Which means a reassigned woman cannot marry a man in Kansas, because she is still officially a he.

 

[single317dad]

It's unlikely Kansas is *ever going to catch up. Last I knew, you still couldn't get your gender officially changed on government documents if you had reassignment surgery. Which means a reassigned woman cannot marry a man in Kansas, because she is still officially a he.

Not to mention their widely-ridiculed state board of education:

http://www.venganza.org/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/kansas/kangaroo6.html

 

[CJane]

Not to mention their widely-ridiculed state board of education:

http://www.venganza.org/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/kansas/kangaroo6.html

I grew up in Kansas. Some things, I'd prefer not to talk about. LOL