Insurance cards

[ejmmolina]

What is the name of your state?texas

IS it contempt if BM is to provide insurance, says she finally has but does not give father the cards? He is the CP. He and I take the boys to Dr. Dr office will not take info writen on notebook paper as she has suggested. We have asked for cards many times before. Husband will ask again on Christamas when we call to say hello to boys. If she fails to give him the cards, can and should we file contempt?

Seems stupid but boys will be starting therapy and the cost will take up child support he receives. We will not have any extra for emergencies, or if the boys need things for school. (things come up through out the year.) We have already began to save but we know eventually it will catch up and we will have nothing left. So far unless her insurance covers it as she says both parties will be paying roughly 300 a month. (Dont ask me where she intends to get this money, she claims she cannot afford 5 mintue phone call to boys once a week.)

IS this worth the fight or should we suck it up and try to find some extra income? It took her almost 3 years to finally get the insurance. If in fact she has it. She has said many times they were in the mail to us,along with the glasses she ended up having.

 

[Smarty Panties]

If you know where she works and if this is where she has the insurance through, call the employer and tell them it's court ordered that she carry insurance and you need the cards that she refuses to give. OR you could try calling the insurance company with the same info. Here it is a state law that the employer send the CP insurance info and cards directly if there is a court order for coverage. Maybe you could look in to that to see if your state has the same law.

 

[Phnx02]

My order is from Texas and I don't recall it saying anywhere in the papers that my ex's employer has to send me insurance cards. It just says my ex is to provide insurance and to forward all the info/docs to me himself. If you have the name & number of the insurance company, call them! Some will be willing to give out info, others won't (HIPPA LAW). If she really does have insurance on the kids, ask if they'll send you a "replacement card" to your address. If not, call back 5 minutes later in hopes of getting someone different on the line, and ask the new person to send it. Sometimes all it takes to get results is getting a "nice" person on the phone. Or you could try the "sympathy" tactic. Explain the situation to the rep and "plead your case" (works better if talk to a woman) .......again, often times you'll get results just by getting the right person on the line. If none of this works, I would definately file something with the courts......especially since she hasn't provided the insurance for the last 3 years!

 

[Shay-Pari'e]

Please listen to SP as this Phnx02 lady has no clue and simply rambles on this forum with no education on any legal law.

 

[casa]

What is the name of your state?texas

IS it contempt if BM is to provide insurance, says she finally has but does not give father the cards? He is the CP. He and I take the boys to Dr. Dr office will not take info writen on notebook paper as she has suggested. We have asked for cards many times before. Husband will ask again on Christamas when we call to say hello to boys. If she fails to give him the cards, can and should we file contempt?

Seems stupid but boys will be starting therapy and the cost will take up child support he receives. We will not have any extra for emergencies, or if the boys need things for school. (things come up through out the year.) We have already began to save but we know eventually it will catch up and we will have nothing left. So far unless her insurance covers it as she says both parties will be paying roughly 300 a month. (Dont ask me where she intends to get this money, she claims she cannot afford 5 mintue phone call to boys once a week.)

IS this worth the fight or should we suck it up and try to find some extra income? It took her almost 3 years to finally get the insurance. If in fact she has it. She has said many times they were in the mail to us,along with the glasses she ended up having.

I'm in CA and also the CP. The NCP was to carry insurance and didn't for a very long time, then when they did, I did not have ins. cards. The ins. provider would not send a card to my address or even disclose any of the benefit information because I was not the "policy holder". What I did is take a copy of the court order to the Dr.s/therapist and gave the NCP address for billing. Most forms you fill out at the office have a place designated for whomever is "Responsible party" for billing. Funny thing~ As soon as the NCP got the bills in the mail, Voi La! the Dr.s etc. had insurance information. After a few appointments I suddenly got an insurance card, because one of the Dr.s almost didn't accept insurance because it wasn't provided at the time of the visit. (To this day I do not know if that particular provider was just bluffing to get the info- because they knew the circumstances) Either way, it worked

 

[snodderly]

Paradise, how can Phnx02 be simply rambling when she is saying basically the samething that Smarty Pants is saying? Strange....

An insurance company nor a place of employment is going to give anyone info unless you are the person carrying isurance of the person employed through the company. That would be a waste of time and effort.

I did the same thing Casa did. I listed my ex as the responsible party and all bills went to him. When he started getting bills he paid up and sent me the necessary info.

You might also ask the ex if you can at least have a copy of the insurance card. A copy of the original card is all any Drs. office would have on file anyway. It's all they would need to be able to get the info needed to contact an insurance company. It takes a little creative thinking when dealing with a fool and it sounds as if you are dealing with a fool.

 

[styl4u64]

Hi

This is interesting to me because it's happening to me at this very moment. My ex was ordered to provide medical insurance as well, and his new 'fiance' put my ex and our child on her insurance. I asked how that was possible as they aren't married, he answered thru her place of employment there is a 'commitment clause' and after applying for the insurance (90) days, they will be covered. This coverage is to take place Jan.1/05 and the insurance was ordered Nov1/04. I asked when the insurance takes effect to please give me a card. "They" emailed me and said absolutely NOT that there was personal information on the card about the ex's fiance and I would not be provided a card. "They" did provide me with the coverage included in the email but no Dr.'s names etc. and on the list there were many areas that were written 'undisclose to (me), in several areas of the coverage. How can "they' have the insurance for my child and "undisclose" information from me? Anyone have any answers to this. I'm in N.C. Thank you!

 

[casa]

This is interesting to me because it's happening to me at this very moment. My ex was ordered to provide medical insurance as well, and his new 'fiance' put my ex and our child on her insurance. I asked how that was possible as they aren't married, he answered thru her place of employment there is a 'commitment clause' and after applying for the insurance (90) days, they will be covered. This coverage is to take place Jan.1/05 and the insurance was ordered Nov1/04. I asked when the insurance takes effect to please give me a card. "They" emailed me and said absolutely NOT that there was personal information on the card about the ex's fiance and I would not be provided a card. "They" did provide me with the coverage included in the email but no Dr.'s names etc. and on the list there were many areas that were written 'undisclose to (me), in several areas of the coverage. How can "they' have the insurance for my child and "undisclose" information from me? Anyone have any answers to this. I'm in N.C. Thank you!

How about a non judgemental letter of request that they let you know just what provider your child is covered under? Then go to that provider, provide them a copy of the court order, along with whatever the X and fiance have given you- and put their information in the "Responsible Party" portion of the paperwork? It just might work

 

[styl4u64]

Thanks Casa,,, I have responded to them that way and they won't provide me with the 'provider's' even! I'm just hoping this is another 'control issue' and they will break down and give the information to me. It is frustrating and more aggravation, just what they want I'm sure God forbid my child needs to go to the Dr. before they begrudgingly give me the information but I'm thinking I'll take her to her primary physician and if she's not covered there, than the order will have to be enough and if there's a bill that isn't covered in the 'network' then they can have the bill! It's not fair that they play these games though, and if they leave me no choice then maybe when they are hit by the wallet they will comply with the order. The problem there is most all Dr.s want paid 'upfront'. Also it's crazy my ex is ordered to pay medical and his 'fiance' is covering it, I would be able to work with the ex normally but not in this situation. Ex's fiance let me know she's paying, so she sets the standards!