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Intimidation, lies standard practice for State cops

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What is the name of your state? West Virginia

A 20 year old guy is walking down the street minding his own business, when two state cops stop him, order him to take his hands out of his pockets, search him for no reason, question him about something he knows nothing about, threaten several times to arrest him for "anything they want" including not having a drivers license (even tho he was on foot), and then call over the scanner that they pulled him over driving, even reading off a tag number... They then turn him loose because they found nothing wrong.

Shortly before this, the same cops, along with 4 others, push thru the door of an apartment with no warrant, jerk the man of the house out of bed, naked in front of minors, accuse him of giving minors alcohol, but refuse to give anyone breathylizers to prove it. They ask the minor girls, one of which lives there, their ages, (both 17), then write 15 and 16 on their paperwork. The one they called 15 even showed them her birth certificate... They arrested the guy with no apparent evidence of anything, and told him he was not allowed to be any where near or have any contact with his fiance of 2 years (not even eye contact) or theyll put him in jail for a year, but they tell her she can stay there as long as he's not there, because she lives there with him....Then they call child protective services on her mother. (The girl has not lived with her mom in 2 1/2 years!) The girls were also told by the State cops that it was illegal for minors to even be AROUND anyone drinking, even their parents in their own homes..... They made a big deal of taking the one girl home, which was right across the street, and when they found the parents were not there, but her 15 year old brother was, they made a big deal out of that too, like it was illegal for a 15 year old to be alone while mom goes to the laundrymat.

At the appartment, the cops all had on black gloves which they never took off. They did not give their names to the girls, and when the girls went to the town cops office the next day to do paperwork, the town cops tell them they DONT KNOW THE NAMES of the state police they were working with.

This type of "law enforcement" is common in WV. Is there enough here to file complaints against the State police? How much of this nonsense is actually legal? Will any of the charges stand up in court?:confused:
 


MoneyShot

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Earthmother said:
What is the name of your state? West Virginia

... naked in front of minors, accuse him of giving minors alcohol...

This being West Virginia, are you sure the situation wasn't "naked in front of MINERS" and "giving MINERS alcohol"? Lots of mines down that way. (Cue the banjo music in the background here)

Where's the trailer in this story? There's gotta be one somewhere. Earthmother, if you're going to make up these stories (see her other posts), you must make them more believable. A trailer would make this story so much better. :rolleyes:
 
Need REAL answers Please!

MoneyShot, Sorry to burst your bubble, but this is only the tip of the iceberg... I could write a book about the things the State police do around here, maybe I will. Oh, that's right, West Virginians can't read and write. How stupid of me...
If all YOU can do is post juvenile, stupid, ignorant replies to people, maybe YOU should move to WV AND become a State Cop. You would fit right in.
 
OK, I get it. This is not a legal advice forum at all. It's a place for cold, ignorant, vicious trolls to hang around like a bunch of vultures waiting for their next victim.

Purely Evil.
Can't you get your minds out of the gutter for 2 seconds?

If I wanted advice from GOD, I would go to church.

A lawyer would not judge, but simply give legal advice. I can see there are no lawyers here. This place is a total fraud. Great place for legal advice, indeed. And its gotten far worse since the last time I visited.

Ever occur to you that sometimes exceptionally bright people live slightly different lifestyles from the "norm"? No? Guess there are no exceptionally bright people here either. I'll be sure to pass on the information...

If no one believes that there could possibly be corruption within the legal system, especially in the poorer areas of the country, too bad for them. I'll be sure to care when it happens to you. Which it likely will, sooner or later, because with people around like the ones here, there is nothing to stop things from getting worse and worse.

Or maybe this a place for off duty cops to hang around and get their kicks? And if it is, SHAME ON YOU!

Now, Is there not one person out there who can answer any of my valid questions???

:eek:
 

CdwJava

Senior Member
Earthmother said:
Or maybe this a place for off duty cops to hang around and get their kicks? And if it is, SHAME ON YOU!
I'm one of the few cops here. So, no, it's not.

Now, Is there not one person out there who can answer any of my valid questions???
You mean THESE questions:

Is there enough here to file complaints against the State police?
It's easy to request charges ... harder to prove them in court. If the involved party feels he was wronged, he can make a personnel complaint to the local area commander. If he feels he was wronged, he can seek an attorney to advise him on the possibility of civil rights actions. And if he feels a criminal act was done against him, he can contact the FBI or the Attorney General.

However, I'm thinking they were looking at an adult living with at least one minor girl in a sexual relationship and said, "Whoa Nelly!" and acted in the interests o fthe safety of the child or children until the matter could be sorted out. being engaged does not exempt one from stat. rape laws, nor does it remove a parent's obligation to care for a child and keep them safe from harm - even in WV. In my state the parents could also be arrested.

How much of this nonsense is actually legal?
Probably most or all of of it. I am presuming that the officers' version of events will be somewhat different than the one-sided version presented.

Will any of the charges stand up in court?
No one could possibly guess.

He needs an attorney.

- Carl
 

Shay-Pari'e

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Earthmother said:
OK, I get it. This is not a legal advice forum at all. It's a place for cold, ignorant, vicious trolls to hang around like a bunch of vultures waiting for their next victim.

Purely Evil.
Can't you get your minds out of the gutter for 2 seconds? Like you? You allowed this, and it is disgusting. After looking at your website, it explains alot.

If I wanted advice from GOD, I would go to church.

A lawyer would not judge, but simply give legal advice. I can see there are no lawyers here. This place is a total fraud. Great place for legal advice, indeed. And its gotten far worse since the last time I visited. Then stop posting your pathetic life style here.

Ever occur to you that sometimes exceptionally bright people live slightly different lifestyles from the "norm"? No? Guess there are no exceptionally bright people here either. I'll be sure to pass on the information...Please do, I would hate any of your other folk asking the same patetic questions. And you are not real brite lady, you are allowing minors to live with adults, and condoning RAPE!


If no one believes that there could possibly be corruption within the legal system, especially in the poorer areas of the country, too bad for them. I'll be sure to care when it happens to you. Which it likely will, sooner or later, because with people around like the ones here, there is nothing to stop things from getting worse and worse. Give it a rest, the cop did NOTHING wrong!


Or maybe this a place for off duty cops to hang around and get their kicks? And if it is, SHAME ON YOU! Nope!


Now, Is there not one person out there who can answer any of my valid questions??? I didn't see anything valid in your question.

Don't you have some ghosts and demons to hunt? You seriously creep me out.

:eek:
 

outonbail

Senior Member
Earthmother said:
Ever occur to you that sometimes exceptionally bright people live slightly different lifestyles from the "norm"?

If no one believes that there could possibly be corruption within the legal system, especially in the poorer areas of the country,

I'm actually kind of surprised to read that exceptionally bright people would want to live in the poorer areas of the country?

I always figured the exceptionally poor people lived there.....
 
"I'm actually kind of surprised to read that exceptionally bright people would want to live in the poorer areas of the country?

I always figured the exceptionally poor people lived there....."

Great big DUH to you. There are alot of particularly intelligent folks who realize that the capitolist, 9 to 5 working class crowd is not the place to be. Perhaps we are smart enough that we do not wish to be midless drones. Which is why we question the "officials" and the "authorities". Here, there is the under educated, "hillbilly" crowd, and then there are the scoundrels. The ones in power who use this fact to their advantage. They regularly run over top of peoples rights simply because they can get away with it, because people don't know any better. And then there are those of us who understand what is going on, and wish to find as much REAL information as possible, so that we can help those who can not help themselves.

The illiteracy rate here is very high. The ignorant blame the "inbred hillbillys" when in fact it is the fault of the education system, again, the "ones in charge". Those of us who understand this and are not apathetic to the problems have homeschooled their children instead. So, there are rather alot of people here who live only on the fringes of the system. We tend more to live by what is right instead of what is dictated by uncaring, manipulative robots. This does not make any of us horrible people, perhaps a "curiosity" to some, the word excentric really is not appropriate, but a problem to no one.

I am so "pleased" that so many here are so interested in me personally. Perhaps if some here could get their heads out of their "donkeys" they could learn something.

Thank you all so much for your "encouragement"! I do believe that I WILL write a book about the corruption within the State Police in this area. All I would have to do is interview anyone who has been arrested for anything. Hell, this would even include the editor of the county online newspaper. He knows as much about the corruption around here as anyone, probably more than most, as he has been arrested more than once for simply reporting the news. Did you know that in WV one out of every 183 people is incarcerated? Pretty poor odds in this WV police state.

So, you all can judge all you want. You have absolutely NO idea. The guy who was arrested, well, his mom is friends with the sherriff. She spoke to him at great length about what has happened here, and he is NOT happy about it, but the town and county police appear to be nothing more than figure heads with no real power, the State cops run the show. His lawyer feels there is a good chance that the order to keep him from his fiance can be over turned...

I feel that very few people are actually here to help anyone. And that is WRONG! We should ALL take responsibility for helping others, and have some COMPASSION, even for those we do not understand. If we don't, we become part of the problem. But first you must realize that there ARE problems. And people who are just programmed robots cannot think for themselves and therefore cannot see anything wrong with the system of things. Perhaps you all WANT to have a big mommy and daddy around to tell you what to do and do all your thinking for you... But I certainly can't imagine why?
 

stephenk

Senior Member
"The one they called 15 even showed them her birth certificate"

What teenager carries around their birth certificate?

This 17 year old has been the guy's fiance for 2 years? Since she was 15?
 
stephenk said:
"The one they called 15 even showed them her birth certificate"

What teenager carries around their birth certificate?

The one who lives right across the street. She showed it to them when they took her home.

stephenk said:
This 17 year old has been the guy's fiance for 2 years? Since she was 15?

Since she was 15 and he was 19.

Now, lets stop thinking about sex for a minute.

These two kids have been absolutely BEST friends, and inseperable the entire time they have known each other. Right now they are going thru hell. All that has been accomplished here is that they now have a VERY BAD impression of how the law works, which will stick with them the rest of their lives. They may feel forced into marriage in order to be left alone.Not the best reason to get married.
 

Just Blue

Senior Member
Earthmother said:
The one who lives right across the street. She showed it to them when they took her home.



Since she was 15 and he was 19.

Now, lets stop thinking about sex for a minute.

These two kids have been absolutely BEST friends, and inseperable the entire time they have known each other. Right now they are going thru hell. All that has been accomplished here is that they now have a VERY BAD impression of how the law works, which will stick with them the rest of their lives. They may feel forced into marriage in order to be left alone.Not the best reason to get married.


You're an idiot...
 

CdwJava

Senior Member
Here's one for the girl's parent:

§61-8D-5. Sexual abuse by a parent, guardian, custodian or person in a position of trust to a child; parent, guardian, custodian or person in a position of trust allowing sexual abuse to be inflicted upon a child; displaying of sex organs by a parent, guardian, or custodian; penalties.

One for the man:

§61-8B-5. Sexual assault in the third degree.
(a) A person is guilty of sexual assault in the third degree when:
(1) The person engages in sexual intercourse or sexual intrusion with another person who is mentally defective or mentally incapacitated; or
(2) The person, being sixteen years old or more, engages in sexual intercourse or sexual intrusion with another person who is less than sixteen years old and who is at least four years younger than the defendant and is not married to the defendant.
(b) Any person violating the provisions of this section is guilty of a felony and, upon conviction thereof, shall be imprisoned in a state correctional facility not less than one year nor more than five years, or fined not more than ten thousand dollars and imprisoned in a state correctional facility not less than one year nor more than five years.


Felonies all around!

Truly sad, actually.

- Carl
 
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