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hmmbrdzz

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calatty said:
Another clueless wannabe lawyer, humptydumpty or whatever your name is, has to get her/his two bits in too. Who do you think defends child molesters and murderers? Criminal defense lawyers! That is their job! Aren't you a nurse's assistant or something? Go change some bedpans instead of pretending you know anything.

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Right now, I think I'd much rather be in my position of an RN who knows a few things than to be in your position. If you "wanna" defend pedophiles and molesters publically yet show your intolerance of IAAL by talking about penile implants and pornography (as if you detest those things yet can tolerate a pedophile and child molester), then go right ahead and show just how stupid your liberal approach to life is.



hmmbrdzz
 

calatty

Senior Member
Knows a few things? Ha ha ha! Random selection of knowledge:

In response to question what post-conviction relief is: "Hey Amos Moses: I have no idea, but I did try to find some info for you.

In response to question about sedition:" I can't answer your question directly but found these pretty interesting."

Advice to thief on how to avoid jail: "There's a criminal defense attorney over here, though, that might tell you how to avoid jail and extradiction [sic], so do stick around for additional answers."

Response to kid wondering whether the parents can get charged for kid's marijuana in their house: "Were these people drifters and living in a shack on your property or something? You might explain what happened and what the connection is so someone here might get a clearer picture?"

In response to question how much time person is facing in FL for 2 counts of battery w/ deadly weapon: "Ok -- here's my "legal" take (the other was my personal opinion!) You need an attorney for the criminal charges. If you can't afford one, one will be appointed. Listen to your attorney."

Whether visitor who is on probation can validly consent to search of host’s home in host’s absence: "If the person on probation gave them consent -- yes, they can."

Response to person asking about a parole search of someone who is no longer on parole: “If he's a parolee, no weapons allowed. If he's a parolee, he's subject to search at any time, also. If he's a parolee, no luck fighting this one, and back to the can he goes. If he's not a parolee, he'll need one good defense attorney.”

At least IAAL is a lawyer of obvious, though misguided, intelligence, who would be capable of giving good legal advice if he had an ounce of compassion and didn’t prefer kicking and mocking people who are less privileged, gifted, and fortunate than himself and, for whatever reason, have strayed down the wrong path. However, I have yet to see Hmbrdizzy give correct, or useful legal advice - anybody can say I don’t know and hunt down some urls. People who think they “know something” about law but don’t know s--- like Hmbrdzzm are the reason the state requires people to be licensed by the bar before they can dispense legal advice.

Since you, Hmbbddz, have chosen to practice without the benefit of an education in law, and since IAAL after 23 years seems to need a refresher in professional responsibility, here is a URL to a New York State Bar article which explains why criminal defense attorneys defend guilty sleazebags and how their job is necessary to the functioning of the adversary system:

http://www.nysba.org/Content/NavigationMenu/About_NYSBA/Presidents_Page/sept02presmsg.pdf

You’re right IAAL, you are more likely to see myself and Mr. Atty at Bing Wong’s Take Out than at Boulevard (of course, I am in the Bay Area, being the liberal that I am), and I will be happy when I can move out of my rental unit into my one-step-above-the ghetto-housing. But we don’t stint on the sushi, and I wear a suit but a handful of times a year, I no longer have to deal with subordinates, I have almost no stress, and my job is recession-proof. I gave up all, well, most of, my venom and mellowed out. To each their own. “Defense counsel is the professional representative of the accused, not the accused’s alter ego.” I hate molesters as much as the next person. Why can't we all just get along?
 
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hmmbrdzz

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calatty said:
Knows a few things? Ha ha ha! Random selection of knowledge:

In response to question what post-conviction relief is: "Hey Amos Moses: I have no idea, but I did try to find some info for you.

In response to question about sedition:" I can't answer your question directly but found these pretty interesting."

Advice to thief on how to avoid jail: "There's a criminal defense attorney over here, though, that might tell you how to avoid jail and extradiction [sic], so do stick around for additional answers."

Response to kid wondering whether the parents can get charged for kid's marijuana in their house: "Were these people drifters and living in a shack on your property or something? You might explain what happened and what the connection is so someone here might get a clearer picture?"

In response to question how much time person is facing in FL for 2 counts of battery w/ deadly weapon: "Ok -- here's my "legal" take (the other was my personal opinion!) You need an attorney for the criminal charges. If you can't afford one, one will be appointed. Listen to your attorney."

Whether visitor who is on probation can validly consent to search of host’s home in host’s absence: "If the person on probation gave them consent -- yes, they can."

Response to person asking about a parole search of someone who is no longer on parole: “If he's a parolee, no weapons allowed. If he's a parolee, he's subject to search at any time, also. If he's a parolee, no luck fighting this one, and back to the can he goes. If he's not a parolee, he'll need one good defense attorney.”

At least IAAL is a lawyer of obvious, though misguided, intelligence, who would be capable of giving good legal advice if he had an ounce of compassion and didn’t prefer kicking and mocking people who are less privileged, gifted, and fortunate than himself and, for whatever reason, have strayed down the wrong path. However, I have yet to see Hmbrdizzy give correct, or useful legal advice - anybody can say I don’t know and hunt down some urls. People who think they “know something” about law but don’t know s--- like Hmbrdzzm are the reason the state requires people to be licensed by the bar before they can dispense legal advice.

Since you, Hmbbddz, have chosen to practice without the benefit of an education in law, and since IAAL after 23 years seems to need a refresher in professional responsibility, here is a URL to a New York State Bar article which explains why criminal defense attorneys defend guilty sleazebags and how their job is necessary to the functioning of the adversary system:

http://www.nysba.org/Content/NavigationMenu/About_NYSBA/Presidents_Page/sept02presmsg.pdf

You’re right IAAL, you are more likely to see myself and Mr. Atty at Bing Wong’s Take Out than at Boulevard (of course, I am in the Bay Area, being the liberal that I am), and I will be happy when I can move out of my rental unit into my one-step-above-the ghetto-housing. But we don’t stint on the sushi, and I wear a suit but a handful of times a year, I no longer have to deal with subordinates, I have almost no stress, and my job is recession-proof. I gave up all, well, most of, my venom and mellowed out. To each their own. “Defense counsel is the professional representative of the accused, not the accused’s alter ego.” I hate molesters as much as the next person. Why can't we all just get along?

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I love your examples and contention that someone needs a law degree to give the answers I gave in your great selection. (That was pretty weak as a criminal defense attorney.) I thought the argument is (or was) that you defend child molesters and pedophiles, and yet when challenged you put disgusting slants on pornography and penile implants for your defense. Why don't you argue that, numb nuts.

It's beyond my comprehension (thank God) how someone can claim they hate a child molester or pedophile yet come to their defense -- publically and as a free service, at that. I don't kick poster's on this forum who come here for advice. I'd much rather be here giving free advice with my RN knowledge and the knowledge I have on other issues than to be here giving the free advice you give -- ONLY to the maggots of society. You have the freedom to take your knowledge and apply it as you see fit, and you can spend your time as you'd like here. I take my knowledge and my time to attempt to help those who don't appear to be such maggots.

I hope your question, "why can't we all get along", wasn't directed at me, because right now I'd throw a bed pan of warm feces on you if I could find one.

Defend 'em. Here's a little help for you, too.

http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/forensic_psychology/22656

http://www.childlures.com/research/molester.asp

http://home.hetnet.nl/~ex-baba/engels/articles/profile.html




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calatty

Senior Member
You don't even understand insults directed at you. No, those were examples of why you are deluded when you think you "know something" or that your advice is helpful. The reason it is "beyond your comprehension" why criminal defense attorneys do what they do, apart from the fact that you are not the sharpest knife in the drawer, is that you have not bothered to educate yourself on the matter. I defy you to find one occasion on which I extolled the virtues of a molester or expressed my approval of mayhem. One can give a client a professional opinion regarding the consequences of their actions without personally approving the actions. State-appointed criminal defense attorneys do not pick and choose among criminals based on their relative virtues. That would leave people without any representation at all, and -- if you educate yourself a little on the matter, instead of thinking you know something without the benefit of an education, presumably because you are innately wise -- that is not the American way of justice.
 

AmosMoses

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calatty

Good God man, you are an attorney...I would hope that the amount of knowledge that you possess in these matters legal dwarfs what any of us laymen can come up with. That is your bag, your livelihood, and hopefully you have picked up something along the way in your years practicing law. But, as a laymen, when I ask a question, I am asking it because I want input. The more legally informed and educated the person is answering the query the "better" the answer usually is, so naturally a practicing attorney should present the absolute best answers. However, in the absence of one of these sweet little morsels doled out so few and far between by Your Eminence, I appreciate any and every response I get from the mere mortals. I have to laugh when IAAL gives an answer and peppers it with whatever nasty comments he can come up with...but, he IS answering to the tune of 20,000 times AND he is an attorney! Post conviction relief? I still don't know what it is, and if IAAL tells me it is such and such "but only a moron trailer trash idiot would ask a question like that, too lazy to look it up", well, hell, I STILL appreciate it. So, hows about if when someone gives me ANY advice on matters that you didn't see fit to respond to, why don't you just leave it at that. It's a damned sight far better than no answer, I can assure you. 20,000 "nasty" posts from IAAL? "Clueless" replies from hmmbrdzz? Silence from you? I'll take the two former ANY day, with a double dose of smarta$% from IAAL, to go.
 
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hmmbrdzz

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calatty said:
You don't even understand insults directed at you. No, those were examples of why you are deluded when you think you "know something" or that your advice is helpful. The reason it is "beyond your comprehension" why criminal defense attorneys do what they do, apart from the fact that you are not the sharpest knife in the drawer, is that you have not bothered to educate yourself on the matter. I defy you to find one occasion on which I extolled the virtues of a molester or expressed my approval of mayhem. One can give a client a professional opinion regarding the consequences of their actions without personally approving the actions. State-appointed criminal defense attorneys do not pick and choose among criminals based on their relative virtues. That would leave people without any representation at all, and -- if you educate yourself a little on the matter, instead of thinking you know something without the benefit of an education, presumably because you are innately wise -- that is not the American way of justice.

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I am not deluded into thinking my advice is helpful. It is. You are deluded into thinking it's not.

It is not far from my comprehension why criminal defense attorneys defend their clients. I said it's far from my comprehension that you would provide legal advice to a child molester or pedophile as a free public service and bash IAAL (big difference a**hole).

I don't care to agree with the American way of justice with respect to molesters and pedophiles and rapists. I am wise in that regard, and in fact -- I'm just plain damn wise, period.






hmmbrdzz
 
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apples&oranges

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Question for 2trusting: How can you have a bigamy case when there is a divorce decree?

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If these hostilities directed at calatty are because of the responses to "Fly_mj" in December, 2002. I have to agree with calatty. The people who actually witnessed the events are the people who should call the police or Child Protective Services. It would not be appropriate for the Police or Child Protective Services to respond on what somebody told Fly_mj. If the justice system worked in that manner, don't like your neighbor call the police say they did something illegal, provide no evidence. Poof, life sentence. Please note nowhere in the post does Fly_mj say the brother-in-law actually molested any child. Please note also that Fly_mj has major problems with his brother-in-law... read his other post. sounds fishy to me! (besides if I KNEW my brother in law was molesting children I'd make sure he was answering to his crimes. I'd try legal remedies first, but when all else fails...).

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AmosMoses, why are you jumpin' on this bandwagon. calatty does not have to answer your question, As I write this neither did IAAL. I will. Generally speaking, post conviction relief applies to those who were convicted and are serving time in jail and there is evidence (e.g. DNA) that exonerates them.

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hmmbrdzz, Opinion is the death of knowledge. I've seen you spout off about liberal this or liberal that. We are on the WORLD WIDE WEB, do me a favor read/listen/see something other than mainstream press. You have access to many news sources. Conservative and liberal. You can start by reading the article on the NY City Jogger Rape. Then move on to current events: the War (invasion of) on Iraq. Read the letter from Rumsfield (et al) to Clinton in 1998, found on conservative press and move on from there. Perhaps it will keep you from spouting other sh*t you know nothing about. How I miss DRN.

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Homeguru, you've missed your calling. Your wit is astounding :rolleyes: Now if you would only pull your head outta IAAL azz.

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IAAL, I wish I could say something nasty about you but I can't (really). After reading some of your more informative responses, I think I better understand and appreciate your views, I may sometimes disagree with them, none the less... I do think you've misunderstood calatty response to the Fly_mj thread. I have a request, can you pull those heads (your fan club) from your azz, I know it must be uncomfortable.

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calatty, I really do appreciate your being here, I have much gratitude for your responses. We are not all here because we are in trouble legally. I'm here to learn from informed responses.
 

stephenk

Senior Member
A&O, read the original poster's fact scenario. Bigamy has nothing to do with this case. The wife provided false information on her immigration papers and visa application. She also provided false information to her husband regarding a prior marriage and divorce.


You really miss DRN? DRN blew up at the end after being pressed to prove some false allegations he/she was making against Hummbrdz. Plus the fact DRN was stalking Hummbrdz. DRN was bad news. Oh, I almost forgot. DRN was wrong most of the time with his/her legal opinions.
 
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hmmbrdzz

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apples&oranges said:
Question for 2trusting: How can you have a bigamy case when there is a divorce decree?

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If these hostilities directed at calatty are because of the responses to "Fly_mj" in December, 2002. I have to agree with calatty. The people who actually witnessed the events are the people who should call the police or Child Protective Services. It would not be appropriate for the Police or Child Protective Services to respond on what somebody told Fly_mj. If the justice system worked in that manner, don't like your neighbor call the police say they did something illegal, provide no evidence. Poof, life sentence. Please note nowhere in the post does Fly_mj say the brother-in-law actually molested any child. Please note also that Fly_mj has major problems with his brother-in-law... read his other post. sounds fishy to me! (besides if I KNEW my brother in law was molesting children I'd make sure he was answering to his crimes. I'd try legal remedies first, but when all else fails...).

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AmosMoses, why are you jumpin' on this bandwagon. calatty does not have to answer your question, As I write this neither did IAAL. I will. Generally speaking, post conviction relief applies to those who were convicted and are serving time in jail and there is evidence (e.g. DNA) that exonerates them.

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hmmbrdzz, Opinion is the death of knowledge. I've seen you spout off about liberal this or liberal that. We are on the WORLD WIDE WEB, do me a favor read/listen/see something other than mainstream press. You have access to many news sources. Conservative and liberal. You can start by reading the article on the NY City Jogger Rape. Then move on to current events: the War (invasion of) on Iraq. Read the letter from Rumsfield (et al) to Clinton in 1998, found on conservative press and move on from there. Perhaps it will keep you from spouting other sh*t you know nothing about. How I miss DRN.

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Homeguru, you've missed your calling. Your wit is astounding :rolleyes: Now if you would only pull your head outta IAAL azz.

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IAAL, I wish I could say something nasty about you but I can't (really). After reading some of your more informative responses, I think I better understand and appreciate your views, I may sometimes disagree with them, none the less... I do think you've misunderstood calatty response to the Fly_mj thread. I have a request, can you pull those heads (your fan club) from your azz, I know it must be uncomfortable.

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calatty, I really do appreciate your being here, I have much gratitude for your responses. We are not all here because we are in trouble legally. I'm here to learn from informed responses.


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A&O. What in the he** is your first sentence supposed to mean? Just what does it mean? Is it just a stupid statement, or what?

I've spouted liberal this and liberal that with respect to one or two threads -- calatty. I don't give a crap if you like or dislike my presence on this board, or my politcal views, or how I've stated I detest liberals with respect to criminals.

Do you know what DRN stood for? DRN was a stalker who stalked me here and who ultimately sent me threatening e-mails of which this forum adm. and some others know all about. If you want to stay on these boards, I suggest you leave DRN out of your messages to me. You can miss him / her all you want, but I will surmise that if you keep mentioning DRN to me -- you'll find yourself in the same category as DRN (if you aren't already there).

Do you a favor? Not on your best da** day. It’s a travesty of justice that those punks were set free based on the statements made by a fellow punk whose ashes should be scattered over a garbage dump. It’s interesting how some shout that convicted attackers are innocent because some caged maggot declares that he -- and only he -- did the crime. What’s that? Trial by hearsay? DNA said they didn't ejaculate into the jogger. That's ALL the DNA said. I think they're guilty as the day is long, and I'll apply your marvelous disclaimer to my stance to uphold my opinion on that (or is your disclaimer only for your benefit?)

I’m glad there are those on this forum who don’t like punks or pedophiles.

I've got no problem with calatty here; I've got more a problem with slime bags. Defend them if you want to. It's the American way. Oh how I wish I didn't have to push "send" right now, but I must go out of town this morning to go do some worldly things --one of which will be to stand in front of local reporters from two TV stations so they can get a news story on the patriotism and support for our troops and POWS that me and my better half have been displaying locally on the waterways. You damn right I can't stand a liberal who protests the war. I think the protestors should be rounded up and shipped to Iraq, and I think the US Soldier who killed two of ours should be executed, and if you don't like that -- then argue it without DRN.


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apples&oranges

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Note: I posed a question to 2trusting, because I did not know. If I knew I would've actually made a statement. I am not/did not make any inferences to his motivations.

Whether I like your presence here is really not very important, you're here and you have every right to be here. I do find it disingenuous that some find it ok to bother certain participants at freeadvice.com and not others. I shall mention DRN as much as I want and if you or the freeadvice.com administrators think it is not ok it is a small matter to me. Again, I really do miss DRN. (I do think it's NOT OK for DRN to send you private e-mail messages, if that's true). Feel free to tattle on me.

On the NY City jogger... Yes DNA said they did not ejaculate into the jogger and the confessed perp. did. I find it interesting that four teenages who most likely was able to ejaculate did not. Have you ever heard of pre-ejaculate fluids? I remind you that the teenagers completed their sentences BEFORE this evidence was brought forward.

Never did I read anything from calatty saying they like pedophiles and/or punks. Never did I write anything saying I liked pedophiles. I like punks (as in rockers that is). calatty was/is doing what I assume Freeadvice.com is here for; giving informed advise to the person who requested it.

I am not what I would call a "liberal," (but I hate labels). I do belong to the ACLU. Please don't confuse the issue. People like me support our troops, BRING THEM HOME!! We don't support an unjust war! I suppose you actually believe this conflict is about liberating the Iraqi citizens, and preventing terrorism, I don't!

I repeat, I am on this board to learn from informed people. I really don't care about your politics. I care about an informed and reasoned response. I do care when people are maliciously attacked for their responses. It is especially aggravating when they are attacked for giving an informed response (calatty).
 

I AM ALWAYS LIABLE

Senior Member
calatty said:
"Finally, someone who understands me and criminal defense work. Thanks for the support apples&oranges."


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My response:

Oh, bull s h i t !

That's a typical "cockroach" statement.

I've always understood you! I know and understand Constitutional law as much, or more, than you do. But, what I could never "understand" was your ultra liberal approach, and the way defense tactics would "trip off your fingers" to your keyboard, to assist even the most vile of our society. Thank goodness you're not on any Appellate bench because if it were up to you, the prisons would be emptied out.

You know, it's one thing to "practice" from an office. But, it's a whole other matter to "search out" those *******s on the Internet, and these forums, to spread your liberal view on life - - it's almost as if you're giving them permission and hope - - permission to "do it" again. Remember the writer who had a question about "three strikes"? You came in on that thread and, in effect, instructed and advised that he didn't have to worry about 3 strikes - - when I was trying to keep him from committed another crime! That's what I mean, Cockroach!

It's one thing to be appointed by the court to defend a child molester - - you've got no choice in that regard. But, to actually attempt even a modest form of "defense" by aiding such a felon voluntarily on these forums is a vulgarity.

It's time for you to slither back to wherever you normally slither to.

IAAL
 

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