Grace, I doubt "someone in office" who doesn't like Bob has little ability to impact public policy based on personal likes and dislikes. The only issue is whether the school is accredited. State/national accreditation for high schools, colleges, and universities has been going on for quite a long time. It's the only way for the public as well as each school to assess the caliber, curriculum and quality of educational services being provided and ensure they meet, at a minimum, established standards.
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Grace -
Hey...no problem...my pleasure to assist.
I'm trying to get a project done for my supervisor right now, but I will check on the others either when I get home from work tonight or in the am. 
"Oh, I spoke with the teacher and she appreciates everything too. I don't know if I had misunderstood her before but from what she understood, at least to the best of her knowledge, back in the 80's NC would accept graduate teachers from there but things have changed over the years. She also said she heard or found out somehow that there is someone in Raleigh, I guess someone in office, that does not like Bob Jones so they may have changed what some schools, especially the public ones in NC will accept. So who knows?"
My guess is that back in the 80s, accreditation wasn't of the same importance as it is now. I believe that it was more of a prestige thing (a la Ivy League schools), rather than something that was more or less required for bachelors grad to get into graduate programs, get licenses and get jobs. Hence, why BJU not being accredited wasn't as important as it is now. I don't know about the person in office who doesn't like BJU...it may be a factor, but probably not.
Does NC require teachers to be licensed/certified? Here in NY state, teachers are required to get their teaching certification. They have to take a series of tests, apply to the state, be finger printed and more. Then, in order to attain permanent certification, they are required (as of the class of 2004) to get their masters degree within 5 years (it used to be that they had 5 years to start their masters program, and then 5 more years to finish it). I know this because my sister graduated in May 2003, has applied for her cerrification, and is currently working on her masters full-time to graduate in August 2004. Without certification, teachers cannot even substitute, let alone get hired for a full-time position in a public school (and most private ones)...and without permanent certification, they will lose their jobs. NY has pretty tough req's....and I believe that many states are now working to attain similar standards - NC is one, I believe that is making baby steps in that direction.
Anyhoo - I'll post back later on those other schools for you.
-Christina
Hey...no problem...my pleasure to assist.
I'm trying to get a project done for my supervisor right now, but I will check on the others either when I get home from work tonight or in the am. "Oh, I spoke with the teacher and she appreciates everything too. I don't know if I had misunderstood her before but from what she understood, at least to the best of her knowledge, back in the 80's NC would accept graduate teachers from there but things have changed over the years. She also said she heard or found out somehow that there is someone in Raleigh, I guess someone in office, that does not like Bob Jones so they may have changed what some schools, especially the public ones in NC will accept. So who knows?"
My guess is that back in the 80s, accreditation wasn't of the same importance as it is now. I believe that it was more of a prestige thing (a la Ivy League schools), rather than something that was more or less required for bachelors grad to get into graduate programs, get licenses and get jobs. Hence, why BJU not being accredited wasn't as important as it is now. I don't know about the person in office who doesn't like BJU...it may be a factor, but probably not.
Does NC require teachers to be licensed/certified? Here in NY state, teachers are required to get their teaching certification. They have to take a series of tests, apply to the state, be finger printed and more. Then, in order to attain permanent certification, they are required (as of the class of 2004) to get their masters degree within 5 years (it used to be that they had 5 years to start their masters program, and then 5 more years to finish it). I know this because my sister graduated in May 2003, has applied for her cerrification, and is currently working on her masters full-time to graduate in August 2004.
Without certification, teachers cannot even substitute, let alone get hired for a full-time position in a public school (and most private ones)...and without permanent certification, they will lose their jobs. NY has pretty tough req's....and I believe that many states are now working to attain similar standards - NC is one, I believe that is making baby steps in that direction. Anyhoo - I'll post back later on those other schools for you.
-Christina
Grace_Adler
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As far as I know, teachers have to be certified here and licensed. You can't even teach most subjects without a Masters Degree. I don't know about other requirements to teach but I am interested in finding out. That's something I will need to check on anyway. I guess I will just ask one of my instructors about what they had to do in order to teach. I believe the colleges require more then if you were to teach at a high school or elementary school.
Well thank you all for all the information.
Well thank you all for all the information.
Well...my sister is Elementary Education....and she has to have her masters to be permanently certified. I also know that to teach k-12 in NY, you need to have your bachelors in educatio, and the prefer a masters in education as well.
College is different. I myself have been looking a little a the possibility of teaching some accounting classes at the college level, and the requirements vary by school and teaching level. For example, at Syracuse University, you have to have you PhD to be a full professor (and I have NO desire to do a dissertation on accounting, so I will NOT be teaching there). I was not able to find their requirements for adjuncts or instructors. However, with my MBA and my CPA, I could teach accounting/auditing classes as an adjunct professor or as an instructor at any community college in the area, as well as LeMoyne, Oswego State, and SUNY Cortland.
K...back to work now..
College is different. I myself have been looking a little a the possibility of teaching some accounting classes at the college level, and the requirements vary by school and teaching level. For example, at Syracuse University, you have to have you PhD to be a full professor (and I have NO desire to do a dissertation on accounting, so I will NOT be teaching there). I was not able to find their requirements for adjuncts or instructors. However, with my MBA and my CPA, I could teach accounting/auditing classes as an adjunct professor or as an instructor at any community college in the area, as well as LeMoyne, Oswego State, and SUNY Cortland.
K...back to work now..
Grace_Adler
Senior Member
LOL
I don't blame you, I wouldn't have to go through all that to teach at Syracuse either. LOL But I wish you and your sister much luck and hope everything works out.
I don't blame you, I wouldn't have to go through all that to teach at Syracuse either. LOL But I wish you and your sister much luck and hope everything works out.
Grace,
Yeah....as much as I love accounting...I just can't fathom taking three years to write this huge dissertation on accounting....I mean, come on...it's ACCOUNTING...
Thanks. I work full time right now, but when my hubby and I start having kids (in 3 years 
), I want to be able to stay home...though I know I'll want to do SOMETHING part-time...teaching would allow me to do a couple classes for a few hours a week.
Okay...back to your colleges. ECU, ODU, Duke, UNC Chapel Hill, NC Central, William and Mary, Campbell University, AND U of Richmond are ALL accredited. U of Richmond - I stumbled across the fact that their law school is also accredited. As I previously mentioned, ECU's grad poli-sci program is nationally accredited itself - ECU is the only school where I could find the poli-sci dept as being accredited (vs the school as a whole or other depts).
So....I hope that helps. Gook luck!
-Christina
Yeah....as much as I love accounting...I just can't fathom taking three years to write this huge dissertation on accounting....I mean, come on...it's ACCOUNTING...
Thanks.
I work full time right now, but when my hubby and I start having kids (in 3 years ), I want to be able to stay home...though I know I'll want to do SOMETHING part-time...teaching would allow me to do a couple classes for a few hours a week. Okay...back to your colleges. ECU, ODU, Duke, UNC Chapel Hill, NC Central, William and Mary, Campbell University, AND U of Richmond are ALL accredited. U of Richmond - I stumbled across the fact that their law school is also accredited. As I previously mentioned, ECU's grad poli-sci program is nationally accredited itself - ECU is the only school where I could find the poli-sci dept as being accredited (vs the school as a whole or other depts).
So....I hope that helps.
Gook luck! -Christina
Grace_Adler
Senior Member
LMAO! Yeah, I don't care for math so I couldn't possibly imagine having to write a dissertation on it either. 
Is that even possible to write one accounting. LOL Other then that, it sounds like a good plan so I hope it all works out.
Thanks again for all your help. I truly appreciate it!
LMAO @ HomeGuru Here ya go sweetie -- some more smileys all for you cuz you're so special! 
Of course I'll give a couple to IAAL cuz he's my bud too.
Is that even possible to write one accounting. LOL Other then that, it sounds like a good plan so I hope it all works out. Thanks again for all your help. I truly appreciate it!
LMAO @ HomeGuru Here ya go sweetie -- some more smileys all for you cuz you're so special!
Of course I'll give a couple to IAAL cuz he's my bud too.
Grace - You're very welcome! Let me know if there's anything else you need
And it MUST be possible to write a dissertation on accounting - I had profs that had their PhD's in accounting. But...*shudder*...I would never want to do it!
HG - Hey...what can I say? I'm a happy person! Even more so today because I put the christmas lights up outside this afternoon. And before anyone harps on how it's not even thanksgiving yet, remember, I'm in Syracuse NY (aka "snow country"), and it was over 50 degrees today. If I get a weekend that is not raining or snowing, and is warm enough that I don't have to wear gloves to put up the lights, I'll take it. Plus, this is my fav season! 
(I put some extra smileys in there, just for you, HG )
-Christina
Let me know if there's anything else you need And it MUST be possible to write a dissertation on accounting - I had profs that had their PhD's in accounting.
But...*shudder*...I would never want to do it! HG - Hey...what can I say? I'm a happy person!
Even more so today because I put the christmas lights up outside this afternoon. And before anyone harps on how it's not even thanksgiving yet, remember, I'm in Syracuse NY (aka "snow country"), and it was over 50 degrees today. If I get a weekend that is not raining or snowing, and is warm enough that I don't have to wear gloves to put up the lights, I'll take it. Plus, this is my fav season! (I put some extra smileys in there, just for you, HG )-Christina