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rmet4nzkx

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panzertanker said:
U100 = 100 units of insulin in EACH cc/ml
U40 = 40 units of insulin in EACH cc/ml

That means if you gave the directed amount of insulin (20cc's) you would have given 800 units of insulin.
You then gave 1/2 the dose, equal to 400 units of insulin.
This is based on your statement of "cc's".

You also state the syringes were U-100 syringes. This syringe is actually only ONE cc in volume.

Clarify this so we may offer correct advice.
That is why I refered OP to the conversion chart, apparently vets give U-100 syringes along with U-40 insulin frequently enough to warrent the conversion chart, I think it must have been units not cc since OP never clarified further and posted several more times.
 


rmet4nzkx

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Job_Hunting said:
Thanks again! And yes, it was heartbreaking. I sure hope she wasn't in pain.
By the way, I enjoy your posts. You are very knowledgeable. I was actually hoping I'd get a response from you on this one!
Thank You, be sure to let us know what your vet says.
 
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butterscotch

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Quote: Panzertanker
That means if you gave the directed amount of insulin (20cc's) you would have given 800 units of insulin.
You then gave 1/2 the dose, equal to 400 units of insulin.

Insulin is administered with turberculin syringes. The maximine dosage is 2 cc's. OP already said they only drew up half the amount. Which means 1.0 units of u40 insulin. I doubt the syringes OP received from the vet were U100 syringes.

Please correct me if you know of U100 insulin syringes.
 

panzertanker

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butterscotch said:
Quote: Panzertanker


Insulin is administered with turberculin syringes. The maximine dosage is 2 cc's. OP already said they only drew up half the amount. Which means 1.0 units of u40 insulin. I doubt the syringes OP received from the vet were U100 syringes.

Please correct me if you know of U100 insulin syringes.
I will be polite:
GO AWAY, YOU ARE DANGEROUS.

You are absolutely incorrect in your above statement.

Insulin is given in U-100 syringes.
The common vernacular is "insulin syringe" b/c it says (right on the side of THE syringe) "use U-100 Insulin Only".


Drag yourself to another board, if you are going to dispense with INCORRECT advice.

(I am not even going to address the 2cc's, 1 unit, vet didn't give U-100 syringes etc mistakes and ASSumptions you have made)
 
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butterscotch

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Panze

At that time he stated he was pleased with her progress, sent me home with insulin and syringes and said to give her one injection "just to be sure" and follow up 3 days later. (due to the holiday). He did not send me home with a medical note or instructions on the insulin, but told me 20 cc's. When we loaded the syringe, the 20 mark looked like more insulin than he had demonstrated, so we cut it down to 10. The syringes he gave me were for U100 insulin, the insulin we had was U40.

I suggest that you read the post. The vet sent her home with syringes. Why don't you think before you ask some dumb questions. Do you think the syringes were 20cc? You are a fool. You have a huge ego and pretend to be in charge of some type of family practice clinic or office. Go help ellencee get the paraffin off her perineum.
 

panzertanker

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butterscotch said:
I suggest that you read the post. The vet sent her home with syringes. Why don't you think before you ask some dumb questions. Do you think the syringes were 20cc? You are a fool. You have a huge ego and pretend to be in charge of some type of family practice clinic or office. Go help ellencee get the paraffin off her perineum.
Unlike you, I do not ASSume. I asked the OP to clarify...instead of deciding what he was/was not given.

As I have said before, you are DANGEROUS, lack the most basic knowledge (evidenced by your assumptions made in 2 different threads) and appear to have NO patient contact.
If you did, you would know that you DO NOT make decisions on what you think the medication may be, the dose they may be on or the frequency they may be taking it. You find this out by ASKING.

Which is what I did, in order to be able to clarify the situation.

Is it likely the OP is mixing up cc's for units? Yes. Did s/he? I will wait to find out.


Now, GO AWAY TROLL.
 

panzertanker

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butterscotch said:
and pretend to be in charge of some type of family practice clinic or office.
I do not pretend.
I am actually a partner in a very large Family Practice.

Why is that so hard to believe? Your covetous personality is starting to show...
 
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butterscotch

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panzertanker said:
I do not pretend.
I am actually a partner in a very large Family Practice.

Why is that so hard to believe? Your covetous personality is starting to show...

And you have the day off? Attend your patients panze, I'm sure the busy practice needs your assistance. Be sure you have your references books available so you can give free legal advice to them as well.
 

SPR

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butterscotch said:
Quote: Panzertanker


Insulin is administered with turberculin syringes. The maximine dosage is 2 cc's. OP already said they only drew up half the amount. Which means 1.0 units of u40 insulin. I doubt the syringes OP received from the vet were U100 syringes.

Please correct me if you know of U100 insulin syringes.

I's true that tuberculin syringes come in different sizes, but the most common is the 1cc/U-100 syringe. It's used more often simply because it's more versatile and you don't have to look for the specific syringe you need, you can just grab one that will cover any dose.

I use them on the ambulance and in the ER and my wife also uses them personally for her diabetes.

Not sure where you are getting your numbers from.
 
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butterscotch

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panzertanker said:
Unlike you, I do not ASSume. I asked the OP to clarify...instead of deciding what he was/was not given.

As I have said before, you are DANGEROUS, lack the most basic knowledge (evidenced by your assumptions made in 2 different threads) and appear to have NO patient contact.
If you did, you would know that you DO NOT make decisions on what you think the medication may be, the dose they may be on or the frequency they may be taking it. You find this out by ASKING.

Which is what I did, in order to be able to clarify the situation.

Is it likely the OP is mixing up cc's for units? Yes. Did s/he? I will wait to find out.


Now, GO AWAY TROLL.

Let me encourage you to reread the post- start at the beginning and take your time, panze. Look at the question from OP. It is overdosing pet. OP received support from each response, except you.

Instead of your responses made to OP, you direct your responses at anyone who you perceive as disagreement with you. If you lack confidence in your integrity, try joining a professional forum. Your sparring will be contained and those who post will be professionals. You can rely on the TOS that covers those who post on medical/nursing websites. Not legal websites about malpractice. Good luck.
 

lealea1005

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Hi....sorry to interrupt....but can Butterscotch please tell us if they are a medical professional and, if so, what their education and/or experience is? thanks
 

panzertanker

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butterscotch said:
Let me encourage you to reread the post- start at the beginning and take your time, panze. Look at the question from OP. It is overdosing pet. OP received support from each response, except you.

Instead of your responses made to OP, you direct your responses at anyone who you perceive as disagreement with you. If you lack confidence in your integrity, try joining a professional forum. Your sparring will be contained and those who post will be professionals. You can rely on the TOS that covers those who post on medical/nursing websites. Not legal websites about malpractice. Good luck.
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panzertanker said:
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panzertanker
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U100 = 100 units of insulin in EACH cc/ml
U40 = 40 units of insulin in EACH cc/ml

That means if you gave the directed amount of insulin (20cc's) you would have given 800 units of insulin.
You then gave 1/2 the dose, equal to 400 units of insulin.
This is based on your statement of "cc's".

You also state the syringes were U-100 syringes. This syringe is actually only ONE cc in volume.

Clarify this so we may offer correct advice.

Not helpful???

You really are dense, huh?!
Focus your attention on your divorce, medical advice is beyond your means.
 

panzertanker

Senior Member
lealea1005 said:
Hi....sorry to interrupt....but can Butterscotch please tell us if they are a medical professional and, if so, what their education and/or experience is? thanks
She refuses to do so....I have asked for clarification 3 times now.
 

Shay-Pari'e

Senior Member
panzertanker said:
She refuses to do so....I have asked for clarification 3 times now.

*HUGS* Toddy,

Here she claims she is**************


06-19-2006, 03:43 PM
butterscotch
Member Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 80

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lealea1005

Senior Member
panzertanker said:
She refuses to do so....I have asked for clarification 3 times now.

Hmmmm......I was just curious.....:rolleyes:

And to JobHunter: My sympathy on the loss of your cat. I know it's hard to lose a best friend.
 
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