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YouWouldKnow

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The fact that you phrased your question as you did means you're really grasping at straws. In fact, you acknowledge that you were doing what you have been charged with. Yes, if the officer saw you doing something, he can charge you with it.

Ya I understand that, I am no longer talking about my case. It just seems unjust that you can be charged for something even if the officer did not see you doing something.... Now I am just asking questions because I am trying to learn more about the judicial system.
 


YouWouldKnow

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There are so many problems with the so-called Stanford experiment that, while intriguing, its impact as meaningful research is limited. It's really fun to talk about and to attempt to extrapolate meaning from the experiment, but as valid research it is darn near useless.

That's true but it also kinda acts as an example as what has happened throughout history. For example if you look at the soldiers in the germany during the holocaust. That is just one example, looking throughout history there is a lot more.

I understand that I couldn't use any of these examples as hard evidence, but I just thought that it was interesting to the idea that an officer is seen as an impartial witness.
 
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YouWouldKnow

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Speeding ticket's alone made the government more than 6 Billion dollars in revenue in 2016.
That's not to mention all of the other traffic tickets and insurance and registration(I tried to look up those values but they are suspiciously hard to find)
That's anyone's guess how much the total would be.

Anyways, if the government truly cared about protecting people on the road then I think they would use their resources to help advance autonomous driving... which could easily prevent the majority of crashes, decrease traffic, and decrease emissions

I know this is offtrack from what we were talking about but I thought that it was interesting none the less
 

HighwayMan

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People break the law, get tickets for it, then whine and complain that it's just a money grab by the government. Hardly.

Don't break the law and you won't have to worry about paying traffic tickets.
 

YouWouldKnow

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People break the law, get tickets for it, then whine and complain that it's just a money grab by the government. Hardly.

Don't break the law and you won't have to worry about paying traffic tickets.

What's your opinion then, if you think that laws are not influenced by money at all? Are all laws created to protect the public? If so, there are a lot better ways of saving lives..... Also what do you think of laws like Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission

You think people need the government to hold their hand on the highways? what's your opinion on this then?....

"The injury rate for accidents that occur on the Autobahn is just 0.08 per billion kilometers.
Only 4 states in the US have safer roads than Germany.
Most drivers stick to the advised speed limit on unregulated stretches of the Autobahn – only about 1/3 of drivers historically exceed the recommended speed limit."
 

CdwJava

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That's true but it also kinda acts as an example as what has happened throughout history. For example if you look at the soldiers in the germany during the holocaust. That is just one example, looking throughout history there is a lot more.

I understand that I couldn't use any of these examples as hard evidence, but I just thought that it was interesting to the idea that an officer is seen as an impartial witness.

He is often seen as impartial because he does not have any real skin in the game. Win or lose, he has no stake in the outcome. The officer gets paid the same either way.

As for who gets into law enforcement, your contention that people get into police work are seemingly borderline psychopaths is ... well ... truly ignorant. I have never met ANYONE who got into the career to screw with people! Not to mention the fact that a background and psych evaluation would almost certainly weed such a person out before he had such an opportunity. Even if one did sneak in, it would probably not take long for such sociopathic tendencies to come to the surface resulting in discipline or termination.

And, as for comparing driving on the autobahn compared to the US is apples and oranges. Americans would not put up with the requirements for licensing and driving, and the draconian penalties for offenses that are present in most of Europe compared to the US. They tend to take driving seriously ... here in the US we give licenses to people that are minimally qualified, young, and almost never subject to re-testing.

Finally, while traffic fines might bring the government a lot of money, at least in CA (where this discussion began) the police make almost nothing on moving violations. There is no financial incentive for the police to issue citations.
 
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