Manager allowed people in mobil home after death

[dchristie]

What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? New Mexico/Georgia
My sister recently died, she lived in Georgia. I notified the property manager that I had her will and would be coming down. I even faxed her a copy. She watched as my mother, and two step sisters raided her home, and they tore it up! It was a mess by the time I got there. I was in the process of cleaning it up, and went to have some dinner. Next thing I know I get a phone call from the manager telling me that my will is not a legal document, and that she spoke with my mother and that I would be arrested if I come back on the property. This whole thing has been a nightmare. I found where my mother was forging her checks, stole so many of her personal affects, and ripped her house up. My question is, I would like to make contact with her supervisor and see that she loses her job. I know I will never recover what was stolen, and honestly I didn't live near her so I don't know what she had to have stolen. I am just heartbroken that I have such an awful family. This happened with my brother several years ago, and it was the same woman, hence the reason my sister wrote a will out. Please let me know if I have any rights in this situation. She did have some guys supposedly shacking up with her, not on the lease. Thank you for all your help.

 

[Gail in Georgia]

" My question is, I would like to make contact with her supervisor and see that she loses her job."

Well, you can certainly speak with her supervisor but, from your posting, your real anger should focus on the family members.

"I know I will never recover what was stolen, and honestly I didn't live near her so I don't know what she had to have stolen."

If you had little idea what your sister had, how can you claim these things were stolen?

Gail

 

[dchristie]

" My question is, I would like to make contact with her supervisor and see that she loses her job."

Well, you can certainly speak with her supervisor but, from your posting, your real anger should focus on the family members.

"I know I will never recover what was stolen, and honestly I didn't live near her so I don't know what she had to have stolen."

If you had little idea what your sister had, how can you claim these things were stolen?

Gail

Gail,
Because I have visited her many, many, many times, as has my sister. We have purchased home furnishings for her, gifts. My younger sister was there no less than 6 weeks ago. When I arrived there were papers strewn everywhere, her bed was flipped over, her clothes were thrown from her drawers. It looked like a robbery. Yes, my anger is also directed at the family members as well, and they will be handled. Did you have any legal advice for me, because it feels like you are trying to be a little mean here; and frankly I am stressed out enough already and don't know you at all and don't want to be in any more arguments with more people. This has been devastating enough.

 

[Proserpina]

What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? New Mexico/Georgia
My sister recently died, she lived in Georgia. I notified the property manager that I had her will and would be coming down. I even faxed her a copy. She watched as my mother, and two step sisters raided her home, and they tore it up! It was a mess by the time I got there. I was in the process of cleaning it up, and went to have some dinner. Next thing I know I get a phone call from the manager telling me that my will is not a legal document, and that she spoke with my mother and that I would be arrested if I come back on the property. This whole thing has been a nightmare. I found where my mother was forging her checks, stole so many of her personal affects, and ripped her house up. My question is, I would like to make contact with her supervisor and see that she loses her job. I know I will never recover what was stolen, and honestly I didn't live near her so I don't know what she had to have stolen. I am just heartbroken that I have such an awful family. This happened with my brother several years ago, and it was the same woman, hence the reason my sister wrote a will out. Please let me know if I have any rights in this situation. She did have some guys supposedly shacking up with her, not on the lease. Thank you for all your help.

I'm not sure what you think the property manager did wrong.

 

[dchristie]

I'm not sure what you think the property manager did wrong.

She did not secure my sister's home after being notified that she died, and was notified that a will was written. She told me she watched people loading their cars up with her belongings. How would you feel if this happened to you? When I was a property manager, and had a resident die, the person that was made executor was then given the key to the unit. Her part in this was to secure the unit, plain and simple. I hope this never happens to you so you don't have to feel what I am feeling now. My sister is dead, and someone went in and basically robbed her house, had the manager changed the locks and called the police when she saw people robbing it, this could have all been avoided. I really cannot believe that you feel that there is nothing wrong here. I posted here to get legal advice, if you have none then please don't respond to my post. I am not looking to get into any more arguments with people. I am dealing with the pain of losing my sister and my best friend. I sincerely hope this never happens to you.

 

[anteater]

Contact law enforcement to report the theft?

 

[Proserpina]

She did not secure my sister's home after being notified that she died, and was notified that a will was written. She told me she watched people loading their cars up with her belongings. How would you feel if this happened to you? When I was a property manager, and had a resident die, the person that was made executor was then given the key to the unit. Her part in this was to secure the unit, plain and simple. I hope this never happens to you so you don't have to feel what I am feeling now. My sister is dead, and someone went in and basically robbed her house, had the manager changed the locks and called the police when she saw people robbing it, this could have all been avoided. I really cannot believe that you feel that there is nothing wrong here. I posted here to get legal advice, if you have none then please don't respond to my post. I am not looking to get into any more arguments with people. I am dealing with the pain of losing my sister and my best friend. I sincerely hope this never happens to you.

Okay - first, you need to calm down. If you're too upset to post right now, we understand - losing a sibling is terrible, and you're grieving. We're open 24/7.

Second, you did NOT say anything about an executor, nor have you confirmed that the will is even valid.

Third, you have no proof that anything was stolen.

Finally - we're not going to lie to you and tell you what you want to hear just because you're grieving.

It is entirely possible that Mom claimed to be the next of kin (which unless your sister has children or a spouse, would likely be the case).

I see no wrongdoing - LEGALLY SPEAKING - on the part of the property manager.

(At least thus far)

Edited to add: How do you know it wasn't one of the "shack ups" doing the stealing? Let's assume the manager wasn't there 24/7....

 

[dchristie]

Okay - first, you need to calm down. If you're too upset to post right now, we understand - losing a sibling is terrible, and you're grieving. We're open 24/7.

Second, you did NOT say anything about an executor, nor have you confirmed that the will is even valid.

Third, you have no proof that anything was stolen.

Finally - we're not going to lie to you and tell you what you want to hear just because you're grieving.

It is entirely possible that Mom claimed to be the next of kin (which unless your sister has children or a spouse, would likely be the case).

I see no wrongdoing - LEGALLY SPEAKING - on the part of the property manager.

(At least thus far)

Edited to add: How do you know it wasn't one of the "shack ups" doing the stealing? Let's assume the manager wasn't there 24/7....

Yes, I am very hurt now. The property manager was well aware that my mother was not the legal next of kin. As, I told her and faxed her a copy of the will. After I faxed her a copy of the will she then told me that they were taking things out of her home. I said please call the police, and she just watched. I finally called the police, and they came over and chased a guy out. I was very close with her, and was well aware of how she kept her home and what types of things she had. I am not over exaggerating in the least when I tell you it looked as if she were robbed. Pictures were broken from where they were stepped on, clothes were thrown out of drawers, just a mess. I took photo's, why I don't know. I think I was just in shock. What was frustrating is when I got down there I made several attempts to contact the office manager, and she wouldn't answer (she gave me her home phone). By the way she was only 46, and for someone to do this to her is just disgusting to say the least.

 

[OHRoadwarrior]

The property manager has no legal right to assume authority over your sisters property. She is free to forbid any non tenant permission to enter onto the parks non leased/rented areas. She is free to ban you from the previous aforementioned property. She is free to not recognize anyone as having legal capacity over your sisters property, until they have that authority recognized by a court.

 

[Proserpina]

The property manager has no legal right to assume authority over your sisters property. She is free to forbid any non tenant permission to enter onto the parks non leased/rented areas. She is free to ban you from the previous aforementioned property. She is free to not recognize anyone as having legal capacity over your sisters property, until they have that authority recognized by a court.

And she is free to allow the legal next of kin (and I'm not sure OP realizes what that term actually means) access to remove the deceased's belongings.

Trust me.

I've been there, done that, and had to get rid of the t-shirt.

 

[ecmst12]

Your faxed will is actually NOT a legal document and until it's been submitted to the court, probate opened, and you declared the executor, you don't have the right to do anything with her things. And it's not the property manager's job to enforce a will anyway. It's not her job to secure the unit, and it's not her job to call the police if someone is in there.

 

[Searchertwin]

After I faxed her a copy of the will she then told me that they were taking things out of her home. I said please call the police, and she just watched.

You have to look at things from another person view. The manager said they were taking things out of the house.
How does she knows who has the legal paperwork? You have two strangers saying they have a will, is this will been through probate, does it state who the executor is, as stated by ecmst?
What is she suppose to do? Which one will sue her for doing what the other claims she had no right to let that person in? Best thing for her was to stay out of it. Don't hold that against anyone.

I took photo's, why I don't know.

Because someone you love was violated and you were not there to stop it. The camera was just an instrument to help with the disbelief.

As far as the mother and two sisters, maybe in their eyes they done nothing wrong. Maybe they do and don't care. All I can say is to let it go and forgive them, they will answer some day to the Lord.

You do what you feel is right. Gather your sister belongings and treasure what you have. Material things is just that, material things. Your sister knew her mother and step sisters. She did the best she could to try and prevent this to happen. So be relieved that your sister knew this might happen and accept it, cause she did.

Sorry, you lost your sister and best friend.

 

[dchristie]

Thanks all. I tried to respond last night, but was unable to. This whole thing is so very frustrating. I am confused about the will I have not being a legal document, it is a signed notarized paper. How does one make it legal so this does not happen to me if I die, because I am sure it will, if you only knew these people, but I guess we each have those types in our families. So thanks again to all of you that responded I really appreciate it.

 

[anteater]

I am confused about the will I have not being a legal document, it is a signed notarized paper. How does one make it legal ...

Until the will is submitted for probate and adjudged to be a valid will by the court, it is only a document that expresses one's wishes. As part of that probate process, the court appoints an executor/administrator for the probate estate, granting the executor/administrator legal authority to act on behalf of the estate. Until appointment by the court, the executor nominated in the will does not really have any legal authority, although actions by the nominated executor, such as securing the estate's assets, are usually considered to be legitimate.