More about Social Room use

[rmet4nzkx]

Both of OP' posts have been edited, the story changes as it looks for different responses. But here is the first one from his first thread:

undefinedVirginia, My wife and I own A condo and are trying to rent the social room for my 8 year olds Birthday. One room is nice the other is bad they will not let us have the nice one even though it is next to our building and we have allot of stuff to move there. food, gifts etc etc. They want to give us the bad one all they way down the hill where we would have to drive there. They say because they voted years ago to only have board meetings in the nice one which is only once A month. They never updated the Bylaws and in my Bylaws it still gives you A chose of both rooms. Plus they took the stove out of both rooms without replaceing them. Now ive rented A nice party room some where else. Can I sue for the cost of the room im renting, or is it A waste of time??????


George Moore

Very clear this is not a civil right's issue.

 

[dogstooth]

who said that. But this case has nothing whatsoever to do with "CIVIL RIGHTS". You're stretching and poorly at that.

The fact that no one is allowed to rent this room precludes a claim of discrimination on its face. The fact that another room was made available and the poster chose to rent another room of their choosing precludes any other claim.

No another room wasn't made available, the Poster rented a room outside of his property. The details are sketchy to who is allowed to rent the room, and that's why I told the him to get the rules in writing. Its sounded to me as though this room is rented for other purposes.

If the room is only for board meetings, then you are right. If there is a co-ordinator who decides based on his/her predjudices, then we may have civil rights violations. Where is my poor logic?

The civil rights issue came up when another poster said that they "can fully understand why someone might not want a bunch of 8yo running around". I asked this person "what other groups" were on his list of undesirables.

Who is on your list, Belize?

 

[BelizeBreeze]

No another room wasn't made available, the Poster rented a room outside of his property. The details are sketchy to who is allowed to rent the room, and that's why I told the him to get the rules in writing. Its sounded to me as though this room is rented for other purposes.

If the room is only for board meetings, then you are right. If there is a co-ordinator who decides based on his/her predjudices, then we may have civil rights violations. Where is my poor logic?

The civil rights issue came up when another poster said that they "can fully understand why someone might not want a bunch of 8yo running around". I asked this person "what other groups" were on his list of undesirables.

Who is on your list, Belize?

stupid people who find legal claims out of mist in the air for one.

 

[dogstooth]

Both of OP' posts have been edited, the story changes as it looks for different responses. But here is the first one from his first thread:
Very clear this is not a civil right's issue.

Rmet4nzkx, You still haven't answerd my question about what other groups you wouldn't rent to.

 

[rmet4nzkx]

Can't you read?
Originally Posted by georgemoore63
undefinedVirginia, My wife and I own A condo and are trying to rent the social room for my 8 year olds Birthday. One room is nice the other is bad they will not let us have the nice one even though it is next to our building and we have allot of stuff to move there. food, gifts etc etc. They want to give us the bad one all they way down the hill where we would have to drive there. They say because they voted years ago to only have board meetings in the nice one which is only once A month. They never updated the Bylaws and in my Bylaws it still gives you A chose of both rooms. Plus they took the stove out of both rooms without replaceing them. Now ive rented A nice party room some where else. Can I sue for the cost of the room im renting, or is it A waste of time??????
George Moore

No another room wasn't made available,
Yes it was, See above
the Poster rented a room outside of his property. The details are sketchy to who is allowed to rent the room, and that's why I told the him to get the rules in writing. Its sounded to me as though this room is rented for other purposes.

If the room is only for board meetings, then you are right.
see above
If there is a co-ordinator who decides based on his/her predjudices, then we may have civil rights violations. Where is my poor logic?
They were offered a room, one not used as a board room, neither had a stove, he chose to rent a nice party room elsewhere.

The civil rights issue came up when another poster said that they "can fully understand why someone might not want a bunch of 8yo running around". I asked this person "what other groups" were on his list of undesirables.
Have you heard of risk management, plus, there was no sound proofing on the room per OP. HOA's have been hit hard with lawsuits for injuries & death incurred by children during parties, I know of one near here where at a swimming party, a child in a wading pool, supervised by their parent sat over a drain and it sucked her guts out, she died about a year later. That suit lead to the redesign of pool drains. This had NOTHING to do with civil rights!

Who is on your list, Belize?

 

[rmet4nzkx]

Rmet4nzkx, You still haven't answerd my question about what other groups you wouldn't rent to.

You are an idiot!
Please get someone to read this to you and explain it to you!

 

[dogstooth]

You are an idiot!
Please get someone to read this to you and explain it to you!

Don't want to answer the question? I'm just trying to shine some light on your predjudices. Go back and hide in the shadows.

 

[HomeGuru]

Don't want to answer the question? I'm just trying to shine some light on your predjudices. Go back and hide in the shadows.

**A: dogbreath, you're an idiot.

 

[BelizeBreeze]

Don't want to answer the question? I'm just trying to shine some light on your predjudices. Go back and hide in the shadows.

I stronly suggest you end this NOW! BOTH OF YOU!

 

[rmet4nzkx]

Don't want to answer the question? I'm just trying to shine some light on your predjudices. Go back and hide in the shadows.

I am developing a prejudice against you because you are too dense to read before sticking your foot in your mouth.

Now go and find someone to read the posts and explain them to you.

 

[dogstooth]

**A: dogbreath, you're an idiot.

One what basis do you make this claim.. HomeDicHead

 

[HomeGuru]

One what basis do you make this claim.. HomeDicHead

**A: post reference id#808400.

 

[rmet4nzkx]

Don't want to answer the question? I'm just trying to shine some light on your predjudices. Go back and hide in the shadows.

Let's shine some light up dog's ......
uhh? prejudices

What is the name of your state? Washington State

My neighbor was granted an exclusive easement to access his dock that was mistakenly put on my waterfront from a bad survey. This was done after his unsuccessfully attempt to take it by adverse possession by a previous owner 10 years ago to uncloud the title.

When I moved in, he immediately posted "no treasspassing" signs and told me he took the land by adverse possesion. I looked into it and confronted him with the easement, and he told me it was exclusive, meaning I excluded from using it. So basically it was his property, and I would be trespassing it we used it (the land...not his dock/boathouse).

At this point at had no desire to fight with him, and since it was his access to the dock, I felt this was a fair compromise.

Since then he's been using other portions of my property for guest parking and blocking the driveway (which is a separate ingress/egress easment). I felt it was time to address both easment issues. He had a cow.

The easement states " hereby, the A***y's hereby convery to the H****an's a perpetual exclusive easement over and across that portion of their real property describe in Exhibit A".

I'm guessing I've got a pretty good claim to my property. I'd just like to use it for the same purposes that "we" all are using it for....access to the lake...and parking a extras car.

He's retained a lawyer, and at this point I'm mad. I'm going to try to void the easement for "lack of consideration". At the very least I want capitulation.

Am I wrong? Does he have the right to keep me off?

What is the name of your state?Washington State

I sat with an attorney to draw up CCR's and easement covenents. After talking to him for an 1 1/2 hours he told be he couldn't take work. When I left he told me I owed him $100 dollars for the consultation. I paid him because it's a small town and I didn't want to start a fight with the only real estate attorney in town after just moving in.

During this time I went over all the property issues with my adjacent neighbors and he gossiped about all my neighbors. I basically concluded he was the "yiddish" word for a bad lawyer and was glad to have nothing to do with him.

Unfortunatley now, a year later, my neighbor has retained him to challenge one of the easements that I had talked to him about. This involved adverse possession that neighbor tried years ago, and now the neighbor is acting up again.

Since I confided in him during a paid consultation, does this constitute a conflict of interest? I'm guessing now the neighbor had hired him years ago for this issue, and he sat there and talked to me about it, then charge me, and sent me on my way.

His advice for the $100 was "go get another attorney". Now he is going to sue me after listening to my side of the story first hand without stopping me.

What can I do?

What is the name of your state? Washington

My neighbor was granted an easement 15 years ago to settle a boundary dispute. Since then, our property has been sold a few times and now I am the serviant owner.

I've got no problems with the easement, but occasionally I'd like to use the property for basically the same reasons the neighbor uses the property(access to a lake). The neighbor has told me that the easement is "exclusive" and I need to "stay off". Although it is an exclusive easement, there is no wording in the document to this. Addtionally, I spoke with the grantor and he stated that the intent of the easement was to share access to the lake.

The neighbor's attorney sent me a letter telling me to stay off the property. I sent him one back explaining why I am allowed access and that I like to have a written agreement for shared use of the property so everyone is happy.

Now they are stonewalling. They've instructed the attorney not to talk with me, nor will they. They've become threating, and I don't want my 5 kids down at the lake.

Obviously I've need to get a lawyer, but if its going to come to this, I'm not going to "dick" around. I want this guy spanked for his bad behavior. I've sent serveral nice letters asking for a peaceful solution, but I'm being ignored.

If I file a complaint, and win, can I sue for my attorney fee's?

 

[dogstooth]

Rmet....what is your point. Am I not allowed to ask a question? Is there something here that is illegal...iUnethical...mmoral?

 

[seniorjudge]

undefinedVirginia You have no idea of the pain my wife went through trying to rent the Social room in our complex....

Run for a postion on the board...political power is great....