moving from state to state

[Buzz123]

What is the name of your state? Utah to Florida

In 2003 I moved from Utah to Florida changing jobs in the process. Utah has an income tax and Florida does not. I am trying to figure out what I owe Utah. My moving date is a bit cloudy, I closed on a home in Florida on September 20, I quit one job October 10 and started the other one the next day. I travel a lot for my work so office location is no big issue, in Utah I home officed, in Florida I hava a small 1 man office. The moving van picked up most of my furniture on October 30 and delivered it to Florida November 7. Between September and November I was back and forth between Florida and Utah and other travel it would be hard to figure out where I was really living in that timeframe. How do I legally determine when I stop paying Utah income tax?

Can I claim to have moved on September 20? October 10? October 30 or November 7? Do I apply it to money earned before the date or money paid before the date. What about a check I got for vacation payoff from the first job in mid November? What about a check I got for a bonus from the first job in mid December almost 2 months after I moved? Obviously I want to pay as little as possible, but I do want to be on the right side of the law.

thanks,

Buzz

 

[abezon]

I'd say you moved when you started living in the new house even if you still had stuff in Utah at that time.

 

[Buzz123]

Thanks, that helps.

What about income earned while working in Utah but not paid until after the move to Florida?

Or the final payout for unused vaction, it was mostly accrued while liveing in Utah but I was not paid until I had been a resident of Florida for a month.

Or the bonus, paid for work mostly in Utah but after 2 months of Florida residency.

 

[JETX]

And I would say that you moved when you:
- Closed on the sale of your house in Utah, or
- the last day of your lease to a rental property.

 

[BlondiePB]

You are considered a Florida resident ...
when your true, fixed, and permanent home and principal establishment is in Florida. Filing a declaration of domicile, qualifying for homestead exemption, or registering to vote in Florida can establish residency. Other actions, such as obtaining a Florida driver's license, only indicate an intent to establish residency.

Unless you own a home outside of Florida with that home being your primary residence, it appears you established Florida residency the day of your closing on your home in Florida.

If you quit your job in Utah on October 10th, you owe state income taxes on income earned through that day or through whatever day you stopped earning wages in Utah. You may have to file those taxes as a non-resident of the state of Utah should Utah's laws require you to do so and acquire those forms.

As for the unused vacation payout and bonus, if you go to www.myflorida.com you'll find links in the website where you can ask those questions.

 

[JETX]

Since this thread has now somehow become 'when did you live in Florida', lets try to get it back to the FACTS....

The question is:
"How do I legally determine when I stop paying Utah income tax?"
*** Your obligation to stop paying Utah income tax ceases when you are no longer being paid in Utah. And that would be your LAST income earned in the state.

 

[BlondiePB]

Since this thread has now somehow become 'when did you live in Florida', lets try to get it back to the FACTS....

The question is:
"How do I legally determine when I stop paying Utah income tax?"
***Your obligation to stop paying Utah income tax ceases when you are no longer being paid in Utah. And that would be your LAST income earned in the state.

My response to OP:

If you quit your job in Utah on October 10, you owe state income taxes on income earned through that day or through whatever day you stopped earning wages in Utah.

As for the unused vacation payout and bonus, I referred the OP there so that 1) OP can do a little of his/her own homework, and 2) OP will have very useful website. Yes, OP does indeed owe Utah income tax for all earned income from that state.

OP also stated in original post:

Between September and Novermber I was back and forth between Florida and Utah and other travel it would be hard to figure out where I was really living in that timeframe.

Respectfully, JETX, it seemed like Buzz123 needed help in establishing just exactly which state he/she was a resident of, so I thought I would help him/her out.

 

[Snipes5]

Florida residency is irrelevant, because FL has no income tax.

OP needed to find out what date to list on the UT tax return as having left the state.

Use the date you left and established a residence someplace else, regardless of whether or not you had to return to tie up loose ends, such as selling a home.

For income, use the amounts from your W-2 that are listed as UT income.

If you were self-employed, use amounts earned while doing business and living in UT, ie before the date you left.

The vacation pay was connected to the job in UT, so as a Preparer, I would consider that UT income regardless of the fact that you received it a few weeks later. Vac pay should have been reflected on your W-2 anyway.

Snipes