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My Mother-in-law Told the Staff Not to Let Us Contact My Father-in-law

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not2BAD

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What is the name of your state?What is the name of your state? California


My father-in-law suffered a stroke 10-years ago which left him partially paralyzed and unable to speak English. He understands what people are saying, but when he tries to talk, only jibberish comes out of his mouth. My mother-in-law has put him in various skilled nursing facilities in their area and the one he is in now is close to their home, but about 100 miles away from us. Unfortunately, we are not able to visit him very often because we lack reliable transportation.

Recently, my husband was able to borrow a friend's car so we could take the kids to visit their grandfather on his 80th birthday. However, the staff would not allow us to have any contact with him because of my mother-in-law. She wrote a letter to the facility’s staff giving them “authorization to withhold" from her husband "all telephone and personal contact" with my husband and me.

We have never done or threatened to do any harm to my father-in-law (or anyone else). My mother-in-law thinks we are going to tell her husband what she’s up to and then he’ll get upset: she evicted us from the home we rented from them for the past 22 years (which we thought we were buying) – grandkids and all; and then she threw away most of our belongings. Why? Because she can. And because our rent-to-own agreement was a verbal one between father and son. Also because real estate prices are sky high and she hopes to get $400k if she sells to someone else compared to $5000 that we had left to pay. She plans to use the money not for herself AND her husband, but solely for herself .

My mother-in-law has power-of-attorney for my father-in-law and can do whatever she pleases with his property or their property, but does that give her the authority to decide who has contact with her husband? It’s like she issued a restraining order against us. I thought only a judge or magistrate has the power to issue restraining orders. Maybe it is legal, but it certainly doesn't seem ethical for her to isolate her husband from his only son or any other close family member just because she is hiding information from him. Is there anything we can do? Any good advice is appreciated, thank you.
 


I AM ALWAYS LIABLE

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not2BAD said:
What is the name of your state?What is the name of your state? California


My father-in-law suffered a stroke 10-years ago which left him partially paralyzed and unable to speak English. He understands what people are saying, but when he tries to talk, only jibberish comes out of his mouth. My mother-in-law has put him in various skilled nursing facilities in their area and the one he is in now is close to their home, but about 100 miles away from us. Unfortunately, we are not able to visit him very often because we lack reliable transportation.

Recently, my husband was able to borrow a friend's car so we could take the kids to visit their grandfather on his 80th birthday. However, the staff would not allow us to have any contact with him because of my mother-in-law. She wrote a letter to the facility’s staff giving them “authorization to withhold" from her husband "all telephone and personal contact" with my husband and me.

We have never done or threatened to do any harm to my father-in-law (or anyone else). My mother-in-law thinks we are going to tell her husband what she’s up to and then he’ll get upset: she evicted us from the home we rented from them for the past 22 years (which we thought we were buying) – grandkids and all; and then she threw away most of our belongings. Why? Because she can. And because our rent-to-own agreement was a verbal one between father and son. Also because real estate prices are sky high and she hopes to get $400k if she sells to someone else compared to $5000 that we had left to pay. She plans to use the money not for herself AND her husband, but solely for herself .

My mother-in-law has power-of-attorney for my father-in-law and can do whatever she pleases with his property or their property, but does that give her the authority to decide who has contact with her husband? It’s like she issued a restraining order against us. I thought only a judge or magistrate has the power to issue restraining orders. Maybe it is legal, but it certainly doesn't seem ethical for her to isolate her husband from his only son or any other close family member just because she is hiding information from him. Is there anything we can do? Any good advice is appreciated, thank you.


My response:

Okay, if you acknowledge that what she's doing is legal, then what do you want from this site?

IAAL
 

not2BAD

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My mother-in-law thinks we are going to tell her husband what she’s up to ...

BlondiePB:
So, will you?

If we are allowed to visit my father-in-law, then yes, we will probably tell him - depending on the circumstances surrounding our visit - because he has a right to know. But first, my mother-in-law "(P.O.A.)" has to "authorize" our visit with him.
 

not2BAD

Junior Member
My mother-in-law has power-of-attorney for my father-in-law and can do whatever she pleases with his property or their property, but does that give her the authority to decide who has contact with her husband? It’s like she issued a restraining order against us. I thought only a judge or magistrate has the power to issue restraining orders. Maybe it is legal, but it certainly doesn't seem ethical for her to isolate her husband from his only son or any other close family member just because she is hiding information from him. Is there anything we can do? Any good advice is appreciated, thank you.


response:

Okay, if you acknowledge that what she's doing is legal, then what do you want from this site?

My Response:

Please re-read the last paragraph of my original post. I'm not acknowledging that it's legal. I'm asking if my mother-in-law (P.O.A.) has the authority to withhold ALL contact (personal visits and telephone calls) between my father-in-law and my husband & me (simply because she's hiding information from him) - Is it legal? I AM acknowledging that it's not right IF it is legal.

All I want from this site is some relevant advice.
 

rmet4nzkx

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Your mother in law may decide who has access to her husband, POA or not. Perhaps she has her reasons, such as your criminal history which you explained in another recent post?
not2BAD said:
What is the name of your state? California.
marielle@knac.com
While on misd. informal probation, I was arrested and convicted on a new charge. I accepted a deal from the court and received time served, plus 3-years felony formal probation. At the same time, I was sentenced to 1-year in county jail for violating the probation I was already on and taken into custody at the courthouse.

Due to overcrowding, I was released in 2 days. This must have angered the sheriff's dept. because they arrested me again 2 days after being released. Although I was not at the actual scene of the crime, I was close enough they said and based on my history, I was probably involved. Although the DA rejected the newest case because the sheriff's didn't have a search warrant, the DA has requested revocation of my newest probation even though the two suspects that were at the scene have not been charged.

Two days after being bailed out, I checked in with the probation dept as instructed, and the probation officer told me that I was not even on my newest probation at the time of my latest arrest. He said my newest probation hadn't started until that moment when I was in his office and that I was on the older misd. probation still.

When I went to court for my arraignment, I wasn't on the calendar because the DA wasn't picking up the new case. But up in the DA's office I was told they were going to pursue a probation violation - they just didn't know which probation they were going to try to violate me on! They finally decided to violate me on the new probation, which could cause me to be imprisoned for a maximum of 8 years, as opposed to a 1-year maximum on the misd. probation.

I told my lawyer what the probation officer said about not being on the new probation until I checked in and my lawyer said the PO was wrong, that I was on the newest probation the moment the judge sentenced me. This doesn't make sense to me, since I was taken into custody for violating the older, misd. probation; and, theoretically, I could have been in jail for one whole year - yet, according to my lawyer, I would have been on probation at the same time? How could I be under the supervision of the probation department (for the felony probation) while I'm in custody and under the supervision of the sheriff's department (for violating the misd. probation)?

Another question I have that is unrelated to my probation question is: What should I do about the arresting officer who tried to have me sign a form that gave permission for the officer's to search the camper where the "crime" occurred? When I told her I did not have the right to give permission before or after-the-fact because I did not own the camper, nor was I in the camper, she came back 20 minutes later with a new booking slip for me to sign. I asked her what the difference was between the original booking slip and this one and she said they were exactly the same, but she messed up the original one. Then I noticed there were 4 additional charges and pointed that out to her and asked her why there was more charges. She said, “didn’t we ask you to sign something and you wouldn’t? Well this is what you get for not cooperating” I told her I wanted to speak to someone in internal affairs but she got nervous and quickly walked away. Is there anything I can do or could have done?
:confused:
 

not2BAD

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rmet4nzkx

Your mother in law may decide who has access to her husband, POA or not. Perhaps she has her reasons, such as your criminal history which you explained in another recent post?
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In Response to rmet4nzkx:

You obviously don't know my mother-in-law! I could fill the criminal forum with some of her past exploits, which make my recent run-ins with the law seem trivial.

I chose to post on this website hoping that I would receive some meaningful advice on two different topics. However, I apparently made the wrong choice. Of the two posts I've made so far, I have yet to receive any useful or relevant advice - just some one-liner questions, an off-the-wall comment, and now, I'm being judged. I thought I would get some answers here, but I guess I'm on my own.

Oh well. I'm sorry for wasting your time. And mine.
 

rmet4nzkx

Senior Member
The point is, in order for anyone to give you any advice we need all the relevant facts, which in this case would include your criminal history, because if you take any legal course it will be an issue.
 

BlondiePB

Senior Member
rmet4nzkx said:
The point is, in order for anyone to give you any advice we need all the relevant facts, which in this case would include your criminal history, because if you take any legal course it will be an issue.
Perhaps the OP doesn't think one's criminal history is relevant. :rolleyes:
 

not2BAD

Junior Member
There is hope after all!

I've found a legal forum website that only allows qualified persons to post their replies!

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It costs no money to post to the forums at http://www.lawguru.com. The only price is that you can only post one question every 30 days. The best part is that not just any wannabe can post a reply, so the replies usually offer advice that is both useful and relevant. :D
 
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