My rights were violated

[stealth2]

That's a joke, right?

If they did subject him to it, he would own the company then. Plus whoever did it is in line for some hefty jail time.

Reading comprehension is a beautiful thing...

 

[Trickster]

I also don't remember Jesus stealing.

(Matthew 21:1-3 NIV) As they approached Jerusalem and came to Bethphage on the Mount of Olives, Jesus sent two disciples, {2} saying to them, "Go to the village ahead of you, and at once you will find a donkey tied there, with her colt by her. Untie them and bring them to me. {3} If anyone says anything to you, tell him that the Lord needs them, and he will send them right away."

Based upon the Biblical facts within the verses cited, it could be reasonable to conclude that based upon the evidence, police would have probable cause to arrest Jesus for his instructional part in stealing a donkey. In a strange way, it would be like in present day of a tantamount case where ole Hank told his gang to "Go to the town ahead of you, and at once you will find a blue Dodge Charger parked there, with a bass boat by it. Unlock them and bring them to me. {3} If anyone says anything to you, tell him that the Trickster needs them, and he will send them right away"

I think ole Hank and the gang would be indicted for theft of the car and the boat, or going back in time 2,000 years or so, a donkey and a colt.

WWHD - What Would Hank Do?
(Personally, I don't think Jesus was a thief but I found it interesting based on this discussion

 

[stealth2]

But did the owner of the donkey and her colt object?

 

[justalayman]

(Matthew 21:1-3 NIV) As they approached Jerusalem and came to Bethphage on the Mount of Olives, Jesus sent two disciples, {2} saying to them, "Go to the village ahead of you, and at once you will find a donkey tied there, with her colt by her. Untie them and bring them to me. {3} If anyone says anything to you, tell him that the Lord needs them, and he will send them right away."

Based upon the Biblical facts within the verses cited, it could be reasonable to conclude that based upon the evidence, police would have probable cause to arrest Jesus for his instructional part in stealing a donkey. In a strange way, it would be like in present day of a tantamount case where ole Hank told his gang to "Go to the town ahead of you, and at once you will find a blue Dodge Charger parked there, with a bass boat by it. Unlock them and bring them to me. {3} If anyone says anything to you, tell him that the Trickster needs them, and he will send them right away"

I think ole Hank and the gang would be indicted for theft of the car and the boat, or going back in time 2,000 years or so, a donkey and a colt.

WWHD - What Would Hank Do?
(Personally, I don't think Jesus was a thief but I found it interesting based on this discussion

you obviously are misinterpreting that passage. Did you miss this:

If anyone says anything to you, tell him that the Lord needs them, and he will send them right away."

That infers there is an agreement already in place. If you want to compare that to a situation with Trickster in place of the Lord, to be comparable, as long as Trickster had a prior agreement with the owner would release them to Trickster, then the person retrieving the animals is simply giving notification that they are acting according as requested by Trickster to retrieve the animals the owner had already agreed to provide Trickster with.

I already know your next argument; but there was not a prior agreement.

Obviously you are incorrect. Jesus already knew that the owner had agreed to provide the Lord with the animals. Otherwise this specific term would make no sense:

, tell him that the Lord needs them, and he will send them right away.

Somewhere along the line, Jesus was made aware that the owner was willing to provide the animals for the Lords use. Jesus was simply accepting that offer.

as additional support of my point; how did Jesus know where these specific animals were tied if there was not a prior agreement?

 

[Trickster]

Hey, I concede that I may have "misinterpreted" and as my applying the taking of a donkey by Jesus to the taking of a blue Dodge Charger to Trickster, and considering all other variables, speculations, interpretations, misinterpretations, etc., would naturally be left up to a judge. All I said in jest was under current law, the actions of instructing someone to go "take" a donkey. or go "take" a Dodge Charger and if "he" or "anyone" says anything just tell them "hey, the Lord or in my analogy "Trickster" tells Hank to say it is for him and he needed it". Bugsy Segal probably made a few deals of those "offers you can't refuse". In any event, all I said was the description within the biblical versus establish PROBABLE CAUSE to arrest Jesus and his gang (desciples) or Trickster and his gang. Once again, this is a classic reason we have so many problems. When we are challenged on what we "believe" we throw out all logic and burn someone at the stake. Remember, Salem torched a whole bunch of gals for being a witch. Whether or not Jesus had permission, Jesus didn't have permission, and a host of other speculations could go on forever. But I have seen people jailed or indicted then jailed for far, far less.
But for anyone to suggest my interpretation is wrong is a judgment upon my interpretation. Next thing you know we'll have some Muslims, Buddists, Hindus, Tibeton monks and everyone else giving "their" interpretation. Therefore, whether Hank took a Dodge Charger with or without permission or Jesus took a donkey with or without permission is a question for a jury. To get to that jury Hank as well as Jesus would have to be arrested based upon PROBABLE CAUSE.

 

[justalayman]

Whether or not Jesus had permission, Jesus didn't have permission

and that makes sense how?

For a crime to be committed such as the theft you are suggesting, there has to be an aggrieved party. In your situation the person the car was stolen from was the aggrieved party and as such, could file a complaint. The story of Jesus is based on the fact the owner willingly provided the donkey to Jesus and as such, there is no aggrieved party therefore, no crime. The owner of the donkey would have had to file a complaint for the police to arrest Jesus. Since as the story was related, the owner willingly provided the donkey, he would not have filed a complaint.

. Remember, Salem torched a whole bunch of gals for being a witch

Actually, current belief is that there were no people burned as a means of killing them for being witches.

To get to that jury Hank as well as Jesus would have to be arrested based upon PROBABLE CAUSE.

and for there to be PC, there would have to be a complainant which in Jesus' situation, would not have been.

 

[tranquility]

Even Paul knew the importance of getting expert help:
Titus 3:13
"Diligently help Zenas the lawyer and Apollos on their way so that nothing is lacking for them."