Chelle0511
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Sorry midian, I wasn't trying to hijack your thread. My apology. It just ticks me off when crazy women give good women a bad name! The End.
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stealth2
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It's nearly impossible to say as you've provided very little info, beyond Mom gave Dad custody and someone lied about something. We can't know why the lawyer didn't present certain things if we don't know what they are. It may be that they were hearsay, or that they didn't really prove anything, or that they were irrelevant.
Your g/f may want to consult with a different attorney to see how things currently lie.
Your g/f may want to consult with a different attorney to see how things currently lie.
okay... well the lawyer never brought up the wednesday is going to school and trying to better herself... or that she now has a job and is not in a financial bind. She never brought up the fact that tyhe father left for the first two years of the childs life, or the fact that he choked his mother and wednesday at one point. She didnt ask if wednesday was afraid of the father which she is reason described above... tons of things... the fact that the child doesnt even have her own room at thier house anymore, and if she were with us we have a room set up for her. The fact that thier house has no child proofing and ours does... tons of things.... need more?
Inquiry123
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No good news, sorry.
Deff:
If you lost the preliminary hearing, Wednesday's child is going to be living with Dad. Here are the details that you've laid out...
1. Wednesday gave the child to Dad, who she now says strangles women and babies -- not good judgement for a parent. So, the court will either think Mom is lying about the situation or that she certainly didn't think it was that dangerous in the first place.
2. Wednesday admits that she will not do what it takes to provide for the needs of the child. Regardless of whether Dad paid his support or not, a parent HAS to provide for the NEEDS of the child. For example, did you ask for financial help from family, or a local church? Did you get a part-time job to make ends meet? Hold a car wash? Did you go to a food bank? Do you have cable? An ISP? Cell phone? The cold, hard truth is that she could have provided for the child if she wanted to...something else was MORE important -- the court understands that.
3. Dad stepped-up to the plate. He took over when Mom took the easy road. Yes, he may have played you...but you let yourselves get played -- again, not good judgement.
4. You have no support system (grandma, etc.) and Dad has his extended family standing up for him.
Wednesday will be able to get a very fair visitation schedule...the same as Dad used to have. Although you thought you were having financial problems before, have you considered how she's going to come up with the child support she's going to be ordered to pay? I know that this isn't what anybody wants to hear...sorry. Good luck with your situation.
Deff:
If you lost the preliminary hearing, Wednesday's child is going to be living with Dad. Here are the details that you've laid out...
1. Wednesday gave the child to Dad, who she now says strangles women and babies -- not good judgement for a parent. So, the court will either think Mom is lying about the situation or that she certainly didn't think it was that dangerous in the first place.
2. Wednesday admits that she will not do what it takes to provide for the needs of the child. Regardless of whether Dad paid his support or not, a parent HAS to provide for the NEEDS of the child. For example, did you ask for financial help from family, or a local church? Did you get a part-time job to make ends meet? Hold a car wash? Did you go to a food bank? Do you have cable? An ISP? Cell phone? The cold, hard truth is that she could have provided for the child if she wanted to...something else was MORE important -- the court understands that.
3. Dad stepped-up to the plate. He took over when Mom took the easy road. Yes, he may have played you...but you let yourselves get played -- again, not good judgement.
4. You have no support system (grandma, etc.) and Dad has his extended family standing up for him.
Wednesday will be able to get a very fair visitation schedule...the same as Dad used to have. Although you thought you were having financial problems before, have you considered how she's going to come up with the child support she's going to be ordered to pay? I know that this isn't what anybody wants to hear...sorry. Good luck with your situation.
yes yes and i know what your getting at and he hasnt bchoked the child just his mother and wednesday... btw.
And i agree to an extent i both she and i have gotten rid off misc. expense to make room for her, but your telling me this ass hole can get away with murder even though hes been a dead beat and continues to do so?? hes not even the one fighting for the custody of the child.... his mother is because she loves the little girl.... that i understan but she wont be able to protect her forever. He already shows signs of being abusive and i know where that goes.
I understand the court would frown on the decision but he was supposedly getting help... remember... thats why she agreed in the first place.....
And i agree to an extent i both she and i have gotten rid off misc. expense to make room for her, but your telling me this ass hole can get away with murder even though hes been a dead beat and continues to do so?? hes not even the one fighting for the custody of the child.... his mother is because she loves the little girl.... that i understan but she wont be able to protect her forever. He already shows signs of being abusive and i know where that goes.
I understand the court would frown on the decision but he was supposedly getting help... remember... thats why she agreed in the first place.....
stealth2
Under the Radar Member
midian said:
And most of that is completely irrelevant! Wednesday (where on earth did you come up with this pseudonym?) gave Dad custody. So the de facto presumption is that he is fit to care for the child. Regardless of what he did or didn't do prior to that - it wasn't important to Wed when she gave him custody. So all of that is moot.
Lots of kids don't have their own room.
How do you know that Dad's house isn't child-proofed? Unless Mom has current photos - irrelevant.
Actually I can't see where you can use any of the prior allegations against him since she knew of all of these at the time she turned her daughter over to him. Her knowing all the circumastances and at that point in time she felt that ,even after all of this, the child would still be better off with her father does not help your case.
Another thing is that it does not matter that he choked her or her mother.(Least this is how it worked in my case) The courts will only look at what he did personally to the daughter and from what I have read there is nothing at this point that he has done to her. I know that is not reassuring at all but that's just how it goes. The mom should have thought more about turning her over to her dad if she thought he was such a threat. Good Luck but I don't think you have much going for you as to get the child back at this moment in time. Best thing is to make sure that the daughter is taken care of even though she is not in the home with her mom.
BTW, unless the mother is willing to buy them a home with so many bedrooms I don't think is a factor. As long as a child has a seperate bed or place to sleep there is nothing that can be done. Oh my God, if that was so I would be POOR as hell for having to go out and buy a 6-7 bedroom house!
Another thing is that it does not matter that he choked her or her mother.(Least this is how it worked in my case) The courts will only look at what he did personally to the daughter and from what I have read there is nothing at this point that he has done to her. I know that is not reassuring at all but that's just how it goes. The mom should have thought more about turning her over to her dad if she thought he was such a threat. Good Luck but I don't think you have much going for you as to get the child back at this moment in time. Best thing is to make sure that the daughter is taken care of even though she is not in the home with her mom.
BTW, unless the mother is willing to buy them a home with so many bedrooms I don't think is a factor. As long as a child has a seperate bed or place to sleep there is nothing that can be done. Oh my God, if that was so I would be POOR as hell for having to go out and buy a 6-7 bedroom house!
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okay well so it was a bad decsion i agree.... now is there any advice you can give me as far as to help getting the child back. What we can do to prove herself a fit parent?
And she dressed up like wednesday from the adams family for halloween.... thats where it came from stealth
And she dressed up like wednesday from the adams family for halloween.... thats where it came from stealth
the answer to that is both yes and no... he filed at the attorney generals that he had the child and when they found out where he workked they did auto withdrawl from his checks. She in turn gave that money to him... i would consider that giving him money, but i dont know what do you think..?
btw she had no money to give after paying for school and all that which is why she gave him the child support money.which yes stealth i know is irellivant in court...;(
btw she had no money to give after paying for school and all that which is why she gave him the child support money.which yes stealth i know is irellivant in court...;(
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jslopez711
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And the other way around too.Chelle0511 said: