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stealth2

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midian said:
the answer to that is both yes and no... he filed at the attorney generals that he had the child and when they found out where he workked they did auto withdrawl from his checks. She in turn gave that money to him... i would consider that giving him money, but i dont know what do you think..?

btw she had no money to give after paying for school and all that which is why she gave him the child support money.which yes stealth i know is irellivant in court...;(

Well, no. That's simply returning his money to him, but it's not equivalent to her helping support the child.
 


midian

Junior Member
okay... well let me ask you stealth.... what could wednesday do to prove to the courts now.... like i said i am not droppping this fight and i need help on how to help her.... not being beatin down.... any advice you could give me that would help would be nice.
 

stealth2

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At this point, she's going to have to prove him unfit. Which is going to be damned hard to do since he was fit enough for her to voluntarily give hims custody of the kid. Nothing that he did prior to her giving him custody is going to help. So..... what has he done SINCE to make him unfit to raise the child?
 

stealth2

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It all depends on what he's done to render him unfit. Does he take multiple women into his bed while the kid watches? Does he beat her within an inch of her life? Does he make her scrub the house top to bottom with a toothbrush while naked and listening to Michael Jackson songs?

We're not in the situation - we have no way of telling you what he may or may not be doing to cause him to be found unfit.
 

midian

Junior Member
well his mother has multipul men that she brings around kelsey which is the daughter..... and she lives with the father i think i mentioned that before... but the last judge didnt give a crap about that
 

midian

Junior Member
and the father has an alchol problem, and he drives but i would have to get proof of that on video or something i would think.
 

stealth2

Under the Radar Member
Just having them around isn't going to amount to much. Having the kid witness sexual activity would. As for Dad's drinking - it's not illegal. Mom would need to have (for example) proof of DUI arrests/convictions. A video showing him with a beer in his hand and then getting in the car isn't going to cut it - there is a legal limit of how much alcohol you CAN have in your system and drive.
 
midian said:
and the father has an alchol problem, and he drives but i would have to get proof of that on video or something i would think.
~May I ask a question. After all the replies that you have received... what exactly is it that you are wanting to know? Her chances of receiving full custody? What did your attorney tell you, for one? For two, if this attorney that you have is not "doing a satisfactory job", then can his/her ass and hire a new one! I don't think that there is much else that we can tell you. You asked what your g/f can do to win custody of her child and we have told you. Start calling various attorney's in your area and set up free consultations, decide which one will better help you and proceed from there.
 

midian

Junior Member
as you wish and we have been consulting other lawyers chelle. Im sorry about asking continuous questions but i dont know anything about law, and i dont want to see the kid taken away from Jennifer especially when i know what the fathers motivations are. Yes, her chances of getting the child back would be nice, hadnt considered asking that question, but now that you mention it i would like to know,
 

midian

Junior Member
What i want to know is what can she do to prove him unfit chelle, if thats what we have to do i will find a way but i was looking for input as to how i could go about it.
 

stealth2

Under the Radar Member
It is not an easy thing to do. Parenting standards are relatively low, and as long as the kid is housed, fed, clothed & not beaten - he's probably a fit parent.
 
stealth2 said:
It is not an easy thing to do. Parenting standards are relatively low, and as long as the kid is housed, fed, clothed & not beaten - he's probably a fit parent.
~ She is absolutely correct. Maybe try for joint custody... something is better than nothing. In the end, visitation may be all that she gets, but she can utilize this time greatly if she chooses. As a mother I know that it must be hard. I just have to wonder why she gave the child to him in the first place. There are so many sources of help. Catholic Charities, FISH, CEFS, and let's not forget the government. Again, take advantage of all the free consultations that she can get. Accept visitation if that is all that she gets, and from then on out document every little thing that dad does wrong and try again a year or so later.
 

midian

Junior Member
yes theres fish and cefs etc but since she lived with her mother and heath and myself we all made to much for thier aide!... maybe she should have filed by herself but well i am helping as much as i can, so she wasnt lieing to them.... and im not giving up...
Believe me she tried darn near everything, i know i went with her for most of them.
 

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