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klsuch

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Hi here I am again for some advice. I have lived in my complex for four years and was expecting to sign a new lease for April 2002 to March 31 2003. Last week I went into the rental office and inquired to the manager of the units that were being rented (some are owned) because I wanted to form a tenants association. Well today I received a letter in the mail that they choose not to renew our lease. With no reason stated. Is it just a coincidence that I wanted to form an association? What should my next step be?
 


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happy&lucky

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You see Klsuch.......

You have a bad attiude and a very bad education in LIFE SKILLS....

You have NO right to form a tenants association, because you are not under any kind of government rent regulations, like in NYCity.

You have NO right to a renewal lease like a rent controlled or rent stabilized tenant does in New York City.

The only way you can start a tenants group and not be evicted is if the building is unihabitable , such as Drug dealing in the halls, prostitution, no heat , broken doors no hot water, assults, police coming there every day....then you can freely create a tenant organization to report them to the proper authorities, and withold the rent and be able to use your rent money to get some things fixed, hire security or at least to get the landlord to pay you to move.

So have fun looking for a new home.
 
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happy&lucky

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Here is a staute:

S 223-b. Retaliation by landlord against tenant. 1. No landlord of
premises or units to which this section is applicable shall serve a no-
tice to quit upon any tenant or commence any action to recover real
property or summary proceeding to recover possession of real property in
retaliation for:
a. A good faith complaint, by or in behalf of the tenant, to a
governmental authority of the landlord`s alleged violation of any health
or safety law, regulation, code, or ordinance, or any law or regulation
which has as its objective the regulation of premises used for dwelling
purposes or which pertains to the offense of rent gouging in the third,
second or first degree; or
b. Actions taken in good faith, by or in behalf of the tenant, to
secure or enforce any rights under the lease or rental agreement, under
section two hundred thirty-five-b of this chapter, or under any other
law of the state of New York, or of its governmental subdivisions, or of
the United States which has as its objective the regulation of premises
used for dwelling purposes or which pertains to the offense of rent
gouging in the third, second or first degree; or
c. The tenant`s participation in the activities of a tenant`s
organization.
2. No landlord or premises or units to which this section is
applicable shall substantially alter the terms of the tenancy in
retaliation for any actions set forth in paragraphs a, b, and c of
subdivision one of this section. Substantial alteration shall include,
but is not limited to, the refusal to continue a tenancy of the tenant
or, upon expiration of the tenant`s lease, to renew the lease or offer a
new lease; provided, however, that a landlord shall not be required
under this section to offer a new lease or a lease renewal for a term
greater than one year and after such extension of a tenancy for one year
shall not be required to further extend or continue such tenancy.
3. A landlord shall be subject to a civil action for damages and other
appropriate relief, including injunctive and other equitable remedies,
as may be determined by a court of competent jurisdiction in any case in
which the landlord has violated the provisions of this section.
4. In any action to recover real property or summary proceeding to
recover possession of real property, judgment shall be entered for the
tenant if the court finds that the landlord is acting in retaliation for
any action set forth in paragraphs a, b, and c of subdivision one of
this section and further finds that the landlord would not otherwise
have commenced such action or proceeding. Retaliation shall be asserted
as an affirmative defense in such action or proceeding. The tenant
shall not be relieved of the obligation to pay any rent for which he is
otherwise liable.
5. In an action or proceeding instituted against a tenant of premises
or a unit to which this section is applicable, a rebuttable presumption
that the landlord is acting in retaliation shall be created if the
tenant establishes that the landlord served a notice to quit, or
instituted an action or proceeding to recover possession, or attempted
to substantially alter the terms of the tenancy, within six months
after:
a. A good faith complaint was made, by or in behalf of the tenant, to
a governmental authority of the landlord`s violation of any health or
safety law, regulation, code, or ordinance, or any law or regulation
which has as its objective the regulation of premises used for dwelling
purposes or which pertains to the offense of rent gouging in the third,
second or first degree; or
b. The tenant in good faith commenced an action or proceeding in a
court or administrative body of competent jurisdiction to secure or
enforce against the landlord or his agents any rights under the lease or
rental agreement, under section two hundred thirty-five-b of this
chapter, or under any other law of the state of New York, or of its
governmental subdivisions, or of the United States which has as its
objective the regulation of premises used for dwelling purposes or which
pertains to the offense of rent gouging in the third, second or first
degree.
c. Judgment under subdivision three or four of this section was
entered for the tenant in a previous action between the parties; or an
inspection was made, an order was entered, or other action was taken as
a result of a complaint or act described in paragraph a or b of this
subdivision.
But the presumption shall not apply in an action or proceeding based
on the violation by the tenant of the terms and conditions of the lease
or rental agreement, including nonpayment of the agreed-upon rent.
The effect of the presumption shall be to require the landlord to
provide a credible explanation of a non-retaliatory motive for his acts.
Such an explanation shall overcome and remove the presumption unless the
tenant disproves it by a preponderance of the evidence.
6. This section shall apply to all rental residential premises except
owner-occupied dwellings with less than four units. However, its
provisions shall not be given effect in any case in which it is
established that the condition from which the complaint or action arose
was caused by the tenant, a member of the tenant`s household, or a guest
of the tenant. Nor shall it apply in a case where a tenancy was
terminated pursuant to the terms of a lease as a result of a bona fide
transfer of ownership.
 
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happy&lucky

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Klsuch:

Did you pay 2 months security or last months rent?

As long as they dont harass you or stop you from setting up a meeting, or prevent you from handing out flyers, then a non renewal seems legal.

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S 230. Right of tenants to form, join or participate in tenants`
groups. 1. No landlord shall interfere with the right of a tenant to
form, join or participate in the lawful activities of any group,
committee or other organization formed to protect the rights of tenants;
nor shall any landlord harass, punish, penalize, diminish, or withhold
any right, benefit or privilege of a tenant under his tenancy for
exercising such right.
2. Tenants` groups, committees or other tenants` organizations shall
have the right to meet without being required to pay a fee in any
location on the premises including a community or social room where use
is normally subject to a fee which is devoted to the common use of all
tenants in a peaceful manner, at reasonable hours and without
obstructing access to the premises or facilities. No landlord shall
deny such right.

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I THINK THAT IS YOUR ANSWER........

YOU DO NOT HAVE A RIGHT TO A RENEWAL LEASE

So they are NOT denying you anything you dont have.

UNLESS it is stated in your lease you have a right to a renewal, then you will have to move.
 
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klsuch

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Happy&lucky I know that it is illegal for a landlord to retaliate against a tenant due to thier being associated with a tenants association. There are lots of things that are wrong in my complex and we as tenants have every right to form an association. I am contacting an attorney. So please if you have nothing good or helpful to say pleas do not post.
 
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klsuch

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I also feel that since they knew that I wanted to form a tenants association. They opted not to renew because then why would I want to pursue a tenants association if I no longer would be here in 2 months. Ultimately they interfered in my starting an association because I will no longer be here and don't have time because I will be looking for a new home.
 
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justathought

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I'm not a lawyer, nor do I live in NY, but as a tenant I have an opinion.

From a contractual point of view, your contract is about to run out. In order to stay, you need to sign a new one. One party is choosing not to sign into a new contract, I don't see why they have to justify their reasons.

Just as if you wished to move at the end of the contract period, they would have no right to make you stay. Your contract is expiring. *Unless* your lease has a renewal clause, I think it's time to start looking.

I don't believe it's retaliation. As long as they are allowing you to stay through to the end of the contract period without harrassment, there's no "retaliation". Retaliation would be eviction for a bogus reason or slamming your "rental credit history" or something contrary to lease provisions.

Once your contract period ends, so do your rights. So they've resigned in the past... doesn't mean they have to do it forever.

If it was me, I'd start packing... If they don't want me there, I'm not going to find a way to make it happen.

Good luck though!
 
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happy&lucky

Guest
That is correct.......YOU have NO guarentee of a renewal lease, so they are NOT obligated to give you one... Therefore they have NOT taken any rights away from you.

But because you are a DUMB woman, you screwed yourself real good.

Now what would i have advised if you came here FIRST and asked about starting a tenants organization....

UH gee how about bull krapping them and say how you like the place and you are thinking of going back to school and you dont want to move between classes get them to sign a NEW 2 year lease.

THEN START ORGANIZING YOUR GROUP....

but you are a dumb woman, who hopefully has learned from this experience, that pissing off the landlord when your lease is about to expire is NOT a good idea!

Better luck next time grasshopper...
 

SAK2000

Member
ATTN: HAPPY&LUCKY

"You have a bad attiude and a very bad education in LIFE SKILLS.."

Now isn't that the pot calling the kettle black?!?!?!?!?
 

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