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NVdad returns from FL w/ daughter... NV takes jurisdiction!

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NVdad

Member
What is the name of your state?What is the name of your state? NV, FL

I am back from my court ordered child pickup... for those of you wondering how this would play out, here's the story:

Jurisdictional hearing in NV was held 6/28. Ex appeared by phone, and did herself more harm then good. She refused to return daughter by June 30 per most recent court order (NY)... Judge got pissed! Judge gave NV temp. emergency Jurisdiction, issued a court order for pickup of minor child. I stated I would pick her up on July 1st, Since my ex was unwilling to put her on a plane, even if I payed. My ex was still on the phone, she KNEW I would be there July 1!

June 29, I left for FL, arrived in Tampa 10 am, rented a car, and went to county courthouse. After 2 hours, found someone who knew what I had to do... only to find the judge in the FL case on vacation for 12 days, and the papers locked in her office! took another 2 hours to get the papers and an emergency judge to issue pickup order. Went to the sheriffs and @ 6 pm. and proceeded to her residence. Boyfriend's vehicle was there... but no answer. (Turns out he was there hiding) Sheriff suggested I return in the morning.

I rented a room, returned @ 6 am... her car was there, so I called the sheriffs. 3 squad cars arrived, AND an unmarked car... they knocked, no answer. They got permission to enter, and FOUND THE EX, THE BF, and their child inside! My daughter was at her aunt's, they had planned to leave for DisneyWorld at 1pm! If I had arrived after 1 pm, it would have been kidnapping, an Amber Alert... what a mess, all because my ex WOULDN'T talk to me, or obey the NV judge. The police picked up me daughter IN A SQUAD CAR. She was so very upset! She cried all the way back to Nevada.

This was NOT an easy thing. The police refused to let the kid say goodbye to her half sister (my daughter is 11, sister 4) SOoooooooo... I arranged for the 2 of them to spend some time together before we left for NV saturday PM. What else could I do? I am a daddy, and my baby missed her sissy.

We had a hearing this week on the jurisdictional issue. The FL judge was ready to give it up from the start... on the basis that the stay in FL was TEMPORARY, and jurisdiction follows the custodial parent (ME, her dad) The NV judge had to review FL interpretation of UCCJEA, and accepted jurisdiction. We return to court in 2 months to resolve issues of visitation ( I intend to modify visitation to allow more time with the mother IF SHE BEHAVES HERSELF, for the kids sake) and the issue of damages, for my expenses to enforce the court order.

In the end... it's cost $3000+ in attorney fees, and over $1300 to travel to FL and pick her up... it isn't easy or cheap to travel last minute on 4th of July weekend! My daughter is just a poor kid who wants to be with us both, and my heart bleeds for her. I hope my ex has learned a lesson here (I think it scared the hell out of her), so we can get to the business of looking after our daughter. Her BF was the major idiot in this story, pretending to know something about the law because he has a relative who is a D.A. He told my ex she didn't have to accept service of papers from out of state (resulting in 2 drop services) and was the one hiding out in the Apt. when the police came. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if the Sheriffs were knocking on YOUR door and you saw 3 squad cars outside, would ya think they were just gonna leave and never come back? What an idiot!



As I told my Ex... I prevailed. I ALWAYS prevail, but nobody WON. And our daughter LOST, big time. I hope that finally sinks in....

NOTE to anyone moving out of state or even thinking of it: GET A COPY OF THE UCCJEA, it should be required reading! And please, think of the kids FIRST. Before my ex moved to FL, we had a very liberal visitation policy, and now we have to live by strict rules brought on by the cost and distance involved.
 


rmet4nzkx

Senior Member
Thank You for the update.

Sorry it had to be so traumatic for your daughter, but you knew that was a given going because you knew your ex would not comply with the court order. It was also not appropriate for her to send your daughter off to Disney World when she knew you would be comming to retrieve her so that you would look like the bad guy. No doubt it will be difficult on both girls for a while and the younger one will have difficulty understanding what happened and will not get an accurate account from her parents. In the future as much as you may want to allow your daughter a continuing relationship with her mother, I suspect that while she is with her current boyfriend his influence may also play a large role, so when you go to court again, be sure to ask for supervised visitation if and or when visitation is petitioned for and in the mean time be sure to ask for child support, your costs and sanctions for your ex's contempt of court. You may also want to consider obtaining counseling for your daughter and that you ex pay the cost.

Did you also retrieve the kitty?

I aplogise for any of the members who in their vigor to provide you with their personal opinons or observations tried to lead you in the wrong direction. Some have different ideas about what a court order means and only seek to reframe a question in a way that forwards their personal agenda. I'm glad that you took the time to arrive in advance so your could attend to all the matters with the courts before the pick up time. Give us future updates, you could have updated either of these earlier threads that would have kept the whole story together.

Best wishes for time with your daughter and healing for all involved.
https://forum.freeadvice.com/showthread.php?t=253419
https://forum.freeadvice.com/showthread.php?t=254871
 

NVdad

Member
kitty left in FL for now!!

LOL.... Well my daughter decided to leave her precious kitty with her sissy for now. Seems that my wife and I are expecting in January, and she made the decision after I told her SHE would be in charge of the litter box because her stepmom could get toxoplasmosis from contact with kitty litter. BTW, My daughter and her step are like sisters...

Getting the Ex to pay will be difficult, she plays a little game where when she seeks custody, she is doing good financially and in a committed relationship with her BF. But when we look for support, she is a poor struggling single mom. (Cake and eat it too?) But I think we will work out a deal where all support goes into a college fund. She's a bright girl, and deserves a college fund. But I'm more concerned about covering my expenses, most of that money is on credit cards. It sure is making it difficult to entertain the child for the next few weeks and get her school clothes until after the rent is paid.

And yes, I should have updated those threads. For anyone interested, follow the links to the threads for the whole story:

https://forum.freeadvice.com/showthread.php?t=253419
https://forum.freeadvice.com/showthread.php?t=254871
 

rmet4nzkx

Senior Member
Too bad the ex is left with the kitty box ;)
Leaving behind her clothes means a substantial outlay for clothing, however very nice clothing may be found at thrift stores, sometimes even new and sales can help a lot. Maybe you will find someone just a bit larger that will have good quality hand me downs. It is unlikely what she wore a year ago will still fit. Still pursue support and restitution for all your costs. NV is supposed to be a good place to raise a family so there should be plenty of things to do. Maybe not Disney World but close. My son while on R&R from Iraq took his 8 yo daughter to Disney World, he planned the whole shabang, Disney World hotel package for 5 days, all she wanted to do was swim in the pool! Find a pool and both your girls will be happy.
 

LdiJ

Senior Member
rmet4nzkx said:
Too bad the ex is left with the kitty box ;)
Leaving behind her clothes means a substantial outlay for clothing, however very nice clothing may be found at thrift stores, sometimes even new and sales can help a lot. Maybe you will find someone just a bit larger that will have good quality hand me downs. It is unlikely what she wore a year ago will still fit. Still pursue support and restitution for all your costs. NV is supposed to be a good place to raise a family so there should be plenty of things to do. Maybe not Disney World but close. My son while on R&R from Iraq took his 8 yo daughter to Disney World, he planned the whole shabang, Disney World hotel package for 5 days, all she wanted to do was swim in the pool! Find a pool and both your girls will be happy.

Dang...that Disney World bit happened to me and my ex too...LOL...

We did a "joint" vacation with our daughter when she was 8....spent a ton of money...and although she really enjoyed the time at the parks...she honestly wanted to spend most of her time in the pool!! I think the long lines at the parks just wore her out.

However you let some personal info slip there Rmet....lol....that explains a few things.
 

rmet4nzkx

Senior Member
LdiJ said:
Dang...that Disney World bit happened to me and my ex too...LOL...

We did a "joint" vacation with our daughter when she was 8....spent a ton of money...and although she really enjoyed the time at the parks...she honestly wanted to spend most of her time in the pool!! I think the long lines at the parks just wore her out.

However you let some personal info slip there Rmet....lol....that explains a few things.
I don't know what you think it explains :confused: It is no seceret that one of my sons had been in Iraq for more than a year and has take R&R several times, he had brought all my Grandaughters out to see me, his and his brother 2 girls, he has taken her to Space Camp, Skiing, Disney World this is not the first time I've talked about that He also was primary caretaker for his daughter from age 6 mo to 13 mo and again from 24 to 30 months because his wife was deployed, not a custody issue and I am the designated guardian on their family plan, so don't think there is any hidden agenda. I know a little something about military law, SSCRA and jurisdiction, in addition to my other areas and I back up my advise with apprioriate citations.
 

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