OT: Planned Parenthood sued for CS; failed abortion

[Clod]

Maybe the abortion was successful

You can ovulate as soon as two weeks after an abortion, which means yes, you could get pregnant again within two weeks after an abortion.

 

[moburkes]

You can ovulate as soon as two weeks after an abortion, which means yes, you could get pregnant again within two weeks after an abortion.

Didn't know that. I guess you do know that you can get PG after an abortion, but, until you said it, this never occurred to me. I hope it occurs to the doc. Also, what percentage of abortions fail? Interesting point to bring up.

I was told my daughter would have downs, and the geneticist couldn't believe that I didn't have the amnio. She wasn't born with downs, but she does have another condition. Does that give me the right to sue?

 

[Ohiogal]

Didn't know that. I guess you do know that you can get PG after an abortion, but, until you said it, this never occurred to me. I hope it occurs to the doc. Also, what percentage of abortions fail? Interesting point to bring up.

I was told my daughter would have downs, and the geneticist couldn't believe that I didn't have the amnio. She wasn't born with downs, but she does have another condition. Does that give me the right to sue?

Sadly you probably could. Though don't call me to take your case. I wouldn't.

 

[moburkes]

Sadly you probably could. Though don't call me to take your case. I wouldn't.

Oh, you know I wouldn't. If my dad didn't sue his doc for negligence/malpractice when his leg got gangrene, and had to be amputated, I wouldn't sue for the privilege of my child. Nope. Nor did I sue any of the many times I was hit from behind while I was pregnant. Hopefully, my karma is good.

 

[MrsK]

Hmm, nowhere did I see that this woman's age was addressed. She was 43 when she gave birth. That means she will be 61 when her little one graduates from High School. Now, being an older mother myself, I can understand a bit about the financial burden involved when you see the light at the end of the tunnel on retirement and it turns out to be a train.

I'm am totally against abortion from a moral standpoint, but I don't think this woman deserves the bashing she is getting. She didn't realize she was still preggo until she was in the middle of labor. So what if she fell in love with the baby at her birth instead of bonding for 9 months of pregnancy. The fact is, she decided early on in the pregnancy that she might want to retire one day and that choice was taken away from her in a country where abortion is LEGAL. So, even though I don't agree with suing for child support, I do hope she gets a million or so on the malpractice and uses it to retire now and raise a healthy happy child.

I don't know about the other moms here, but I had my first one at 20 and my last one at 36, what a huge difference in stamina!!! It's hard to work and raise a child in your twenties and thirties, I can't wait to see what it will be like in my 40's and 50's.

Well, just my opinion, nothing legal. But then a lot of everyone elses posts are just opinions with just a little sprinkling of legal opinion in the mix.

If she was worried about the financial burden, she shouldve given the child up for adoption. But since she chose to raise it, she needs to get over herself, she should not be getting any $$ from planned parenthood. Just like ANY medical procedure, there are side effects, there are not always guarantees that the procedure will work. I'm wondering if there was not some sort of form she signed stating that this was possible, because if she did, she's **** out of luck. (and I hope she did, because I think she deserves not one penny).

Also, she didnt know she was pregnant until she was 7 months along. NOT in the middle of labor. Which leads to the question: What type of idiot does not realize they are pregnant before they are 7 months along?

 

[MrsK]

You know what many posters routinely tell MALE posters who end up parents when they didn't plan to be:

If you have sex, you can end up with a baby. If you don't want the responsibility, you should keep your pants zipped.​

Why should the answer really be any different? The male parent doesn't even HAVE the option. Poor mom - she has a baby she didn't want? Guys live that reality every day and nobody reimburses THEM for ending up a parent when they hadn't bargained for that possibility. Ultimately, if one doesn't want a baby, the proper answer is to make choices that don't put them at risk for pregnancy.

Word.

I dont feel bad for this woman at all. And I'm pro-choice.

Even worse- think about how that KID is gonna feel. "Yeah, I tried to have an abortion and it didnt work, so I decided to keep you, and go after PP for some money because I didnt think I should have to support you since I didnt feel like giving you up for adoption, but I didnt feel like you were worth me spending my own money to raise you, either."

And you know the kid will find out one day. Definetly.

 

[MrsK]

I read one of those links and it makes NO SENSE:

High Court Wants Boy Compensated For Being Born With Down Syndrome
By Dave Reynolds, Inclusion Daily Express
November 28, 2001

PARIS, FRANCE--The Cour de Cassation, France's high court of appeals, has ruled that the parents of a boy who has Down syndrome should be compensated because he was born.

The boy, identified in media reports only as Lionel, was born in 1995. His parents then sued the mother's gynecologist because the doctor had not detected during the pregnancy that the boy would be born with Down syndrome.

A court agreed with the parents and ordered the doctor to pay around $100,000 for medical negligence.

Now, the country's highest court has decided that the $100,000 is not enough. The court wants the amount increased substantially because the parents claim they would have had an abortion if they known he would be born with a disability.

The decision reinforces another high court ruling made one year ago. The court ruled last November that Nicola Peruche, who was born with several disabilities, could sue his doctors because they had failed to diagnose that his mother had rubella during the pregnancy. His parents also claimed that they would have had him aborted if they had known he might have disabilities.

Disability rights advocates who are trying to fight the Peruche ruling in the courts were further angered by this new ruling.

"Certain judges in the high court of appeal still think it is better to be dead than handicapped," said activist Xavier Mirabel.

I know for a fact that the ONLY definitive way to know if a fetus has Down's Syndrome is by either CVS or Amnio. Thus if the parents never had either test, how COULD the Down's have been expected to be diagnosed?

And there are a whole host of other abnormalities that wouldn't be known until birth. (we watch Babies- Special Delivery" on Discovery Health Channel and another Baby delivery show on that network)

That is ridiculous! Its a shame that sue happy ppl who have more free time than sense can just sue people for issues that are not their fault (ie parents suing b/c a Dr didnt detect DS in their child but they didnt have an amnio, etc.)

 

[Ohiogal]

If she was worried about the financial burden, she shouldve given the child up for adoption. But since she chose to raise it, she needs to get over herself, she should not be getting any $$ from planned parenthood. Just like ANY medical procedure, there are side effects, there are not always guarantees that the procedure will work. I'm wondering if there was not some sort of form she signed stating that this was possible, because if she did, she's **** out of luck. (and I hope she did, because I think she deserves not one penny).

Also, she didnt know she was pregnant until she was 7 months along. NOT in the middle of labor. Which leads to the question: What type of idiot does not realize they are pregnant before they are 7 months along?

CNN just aired a story of a 420 pound woman who did not know until she delicered.

 

[MrsK]

CNN just aired a story of a 420 pound woman who did not know until she delicered.

Yeah, I'm thinking denial. Maybe in an EXTREME case of being so morbidly obese, but I'm still having a REALLY hard time buying it, and I absolutely DO NOT buy it for this case.

I've had 4 kids, and I really do not buy anyone who says "I just didnt know I was pregnant." Please.

 

[nextwife]

Saw that.

Bottom line: she ULTIMATELY decided she WANTED to raise the child. That should make it as much her responsibility as the father's.

 

[nextwife]

Word.

I dont feel bad for this woman at all. And I'm pro-choice.

Even worse- think about how that KID is gonna feel. "Yeah, I tried to have an abortion and it didnt work, so I decided to keep you, and go after PP for some money because I didnt think I should have to support you since I didnt feel like giving you up for adoption, but I didnt feel like you were worth me spending my own money to raise you, either."

And you know the kid will find out one day. Definetly.

I missed reading the fine print where the Pregnancy Warranty was stated.

 

[You Are Guilty]

I've had 4 kids, and I really do not buy anyone who says "I just didnt know I was pregnant." Please.

Here's the 400-pound story:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070305/us_nm/usa_pregnant_dc_2

I have a number of physician friends from my med mal days who have stories from their OB/GNY residencies at some of the uh, "less desirable" hospitals, where women would come in with no clue they were pregnant. Of course, most were crackheads, (but not all).

Never underestimate the power of human stupidity.

 

[moburkes]

Here's the 400-pound story:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070305/us_nm/usa_pregnant_dc_2

I have a number of physician friends from my med mal days who have stories from their OB/GNY residencies at some of the uh, "less desirable" hospitals, where women would come in with no clue they were pregnant. Of course, most were crackheads, (but not all).

Never underestimate the power of human stupidity.

I highlighted the most important, and funniest, part of your post. There is nothing worse than kicking and hitting inside your belly. How do you ignore that? The closest that I came to not realizing was when the doctor laughed at me and told me that I was not having gas pains, that they were labor pains. But that was for 2 minutes of the 9 months. Maybe they thought they had gas for 9 months, and thought it wasn't severe enough to go to the doc.