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AHA

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Amy R said:
OMG..why am I getting attacked in here, I NEVER SAID I WOULDNT PAY! I simply asked why do I have to pay?? I can see after we get divorced and the reason we arent divcorved is because of him not me..and I do pay for my child's well being.

"I simply asked why do I have to pay"

Just the fact that you even sink so low as to ask something like that says everything!!!!!!! Is your child going to live on nothing?? You are an embarrassment to mothers and your kid is better off not growing up with you with that attitude against your own flesh and blood.
 


BethM

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Amy dear, here is the problem. You keep using the words “have to.” It’s a matter of semantics. You see, most of us say we “have” to do things that we aren’t really looking forward to doing. Example..I have to go to work today or I have to go down and fill the car up with gas or I have to go have a root canal. Using the words have to, to describe something we are doing or about to do indicates a less than willingness on our part to do it. It’s just something we “have to” do.

It doesn’t make sense for you to say that you pay child support and don’t mind it and then turn around and ask why you “have to” if you aren’t divorced. Your argument that you don’t mind paying the support is being killed by those two little words. Now if you had said, “I gladly pay child support but was wondering why the support was ordered since we are not yet divorced.” Then no one would have attacked you.

I would suspect that you pay the support but resent paying it. You wouldn’t even be on here asking the question you are asking because if you were paying the support because you feel a maternal, moral obligation then it wouldn’t matter what your girlfriend said or what the state laws were. You would be voluntarily paying it. You certainly would not be using the words have to over and over again. The way we communicate can sometimes inadvertently disclose our true feelings about a situation. That is what has happened here. You pay the support but wish like hell you didn’t “have to.”
 

I AM ALWAYS LIABLE

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BethM said:
Amy dear, here is the problem. You keep using the words “have to.” It’s a matter of semantics. You see, most of us say we “have” to do things that we aren’t really looking forward to doing. Example..I have to go to work today or I have to go down and fill the car up with gas or I have to go have a root canal. Using the words have to, to describe something we are doing or about to do indicates a less than willingness on our part to do it. It’s just something we “have to” do.

It doesn’t make sense for you to say that you pay child support and don’t mind it and then turn around and ask why you “have to” if you aren’t divorced. Your argument that you don’t mind paying the support is being killed by those two little words. Now if you had said, “I gladly pay child support but was wondering why the support was ordered since we are not yet divorced.” Then no one would have attacked you.

I would suspect that you pay the support but resent paying it. You wouldn’t even be on here asking the question you are asking because if you were paying the support because you feel a maternal, moral obligation then it wouldn’t matter what your girlfriend said or what the state laws were. You would be voluntarily paying it. You certainly would not be using the words have to over and over again. The way we communicate can sometimes inadvertently disclose our true feelings about a situation. That is what has happened here. You pay the support but wish like hell you didn’t “have to.”


My response:

Are you Glenda, the good witch of the north?

IAAL
 

tigger22472

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I AM ALWAYS LIABLE said:
My response:

Are you Glenda, the good witch of the north?

IAAL


Have the grandkids over for TBS' viewing of The Wizard of Oz tonight or did you sit down and decide to relive your own childhood? :)
 

I AM ALWAYS LIABLE

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tigger22472 said:
Have the grandkids over for TBS' viewing of The Wizard of Oz tonight or did you sit down and decide to relive your own childhood? :)

My response:

The grandkids have the volume up on our 80" Diagonal Plasma Theater Television. I couldn't help but hear that name, and I can't believe I was able to use it! Couldn't you just hear the "trill" sound in BethM's written voice?

IAAL
 

tigger22472

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I AM ALWAYS LIABLE said:
My response:

The grandkids have the volume up on our 80" Diagonal Plasma Theater Television. I couldn't help but hear that name, and I can't believe I was able to use it! Couldn't you just hear the "trill" sound in BethM's written voice?

IAAL

Now that you mention it you could hear her in a very soft voice tell her how dumb she sounded... if only we all had her tact..LOL

I remember those days, before VCR's and DVD's of waiting for that annual viewing of the Wizard of Oz. My cousin and I always spent the night at my grandparents' house(until we moved far away) and we would wear one of our grandpa's t-shirts and lay on the floor to watch it. I had it on tonight too and my son had to 'remind' me we have it on video. I told him that took the fun out of it.
 

BethM

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Are you Glenda, the good witch of the north?

IAAL, I am indeed a good witch, just not that particular witch. I am also a mother so am well versed at communicating to those who need help understanding some fairly simple concepts.

Amy's post tickled me good. That "have to" thrown in there while at the same time arguing that she didn't mind paying was more than I could let go by without comment.

It reminded me of that movie...Saved, where the girl throws her bible and hits another girl in the back and the entire time she is yelling, "I am full of Christ's love." I always get a hoot out of the way people can contradict themselves in such blatant ways don't you?
Beth
 
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Amy R

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BethM said:
Amy dear, here is the problem. You keep using the words “have to.” It’s a matter of semantics. You see, most of us say we “have” to do things that we aren’t really looking forward to doing. Example..I have to go to work today or I have to go down and fill the car up with gas or I have to go have a root canal. Using the words have to, to describe something we are doing or about to do indicates a less than willingness on our part to do it. It’s just something we “have to” do.

It doesn’t make sense for you to say that you pay child support and don’t mind it and then turn around and ask why you “have to” if you aren’t divorced. Your argument that you don’t mind paying the support is being killed by those two little words. Now if you had said, “I gladly pay child support but was wondering why the support was ordered since we are not yet divorced.” Then no one would have attacked you.

I would suspect that you pay the support but resent paying it. You wouldn’t even be on here asking the question you are asking because if you were paying the support because you feel a maternal, moral obligation then it wouldn’t matter what your girlfriend said or what the state laws were. You would be voluntarily paying it. You certainly would not be using the words have to over and over again. The way we communicate can sometimes inadvertently disclose our true feelings about a situation. That is what has happened here. You pay the support but wish like hell you didn’t “have to.”

thanx for responding, and not attacking me=) I really appreciate ur honest, loyal answer. I guess thats what I actually meant to say but coudnt get it into those exact words. *thanx* and I do pay for the support and dont wish I didnt but just wondering exactly what you wrote up there. well thanx bye
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Amy R

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AHA said:
"I simply asked why do I have to pay"

Just the fact that you even sink so low as to ask something like that says everything!!!!!!! Is your child going to live on nothing?? You are an embarrassment to mothers and your kid is better off not growing up with you with that attitude against your own flesh and blood.


Okay I guess I put it into the wrong words. *sorry* and I appreciate your response=)
 
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Amy R

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I AM ALWAYS LIABLE said:
My response:

You're being "attacked", as you call it, for asking such a STUPID question in the first place. You keep equating your marriage to whether you SHOULD pay support to your child, and I keep telling you that your marriage has NOTHING to do with it - - yet you KEEP mentioning it. Are you really that dumb?

What if you were never married, had a child, and had the child taken from you because you were a druggie or an alcoholic (which I suspect is one of the reasons, anyway - - but that's beside the point)? Wouldn't you EXPECT to support your child regardless of someone TELLING you that you HAD to?

IAAL

Okay sorry, I will not ever bring up where I was married again. But excuse you, I am not a druggie or whatever u call it. I did not appreciate that! I work a full-time job and have a nice car, I wouldnt have those things if I were a druggie, right?? and the money would all go to what you suspect I do...

I guess I put it into the wrong words, I'm sorry again! and sorry for my past post! I really appreciate you response=)

P.S Please do not talk about my father, because you wouldnt like if I talked about yours..
 
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Amy R

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--PARIDISE-- said:
Amy R said:
OMG..why am I getting attacked in here, I NEVER SAID I WOULDNT PAY! I simply asked why do I have to pay?? Because the guy wearing the black robe ordered it.


I can see after we get divorced and the reason we arent divorced is because of him not me..and I do pay for my child's well being. That poor kid. At least dad has him/her and not you.

And for your info, "DAD" does not have him! He's with me too! He's with me during the summers, GOSH! Anyways, thanx for your response! Greatly appreciated=)
 

ikecvfd2

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Amy R said:
I work a full-time job and have a nice car, I wouldnt have those things if I were a druggie, right??

Wrong!! I know of several druggies that work fulltime and have nice cars. my ex for example.
 

tigger22472

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BelizeBreeze said:
Ar you serious? I have stayed out of this for a LONG time but that stupid reply I just had to laugh.

Hell, I've known several 'famous' people and stars who also smoked the best weed and they didn't drive around in VW vans. :rolleyes:

It's funny you say that. I was watching "Inside the Actor's Studio" on Mark Wahlberg the other day and he was talking about when he was a teenager and bagged groceries 'a few hours a week' and yet had this awesome new decked out car. The joke was his mom didn't figure out his front porch was where he had his REAL job.
 
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