police station drop tonight

[JD4100]

ok that makes sense to me the part that if we cannot mutually agree then by default the other visitation rules would apply.
Thank you for that.

The other thing that maybe i am not getting across , and pardon me , is that i am NOT denying visitation. I have showed up twice now , on record , at the police station with my son and all his things. Ready for him to get out of my car and go into his fathers car. I have repeatedly said , where ever you want to meet in a public place that is safe, i will be there. Where ever , what ever time. I am ready now - where do u want to meet? Lets go!

Today when we went back to the police station again, ready for my son to go to his dad's - i showed the police officer all of our email exchanges - even the officer said i was making more than enough effort to turn my son over to him.

 

[CdwJava]

Yep , i hear you. We both must agree. But wouldnt the court find that i have clearly made attempts to come to a agreement.

Maybe. But if all you have are e-mails, then all he has to do is say he did not get them. And, the court may find that your suggestions were not reasonable for him - for whatever reason.

The point is, the same argument you will try to use to say YOUR position is reasonable, HE can try to use to say HIS position is. The two of you need to come to some sort of resolution, or, go to court and have it put in black and white the times, dates, and locations when these exchanges will occur. As it is, the language makes it impossible for the police to enforce, and a judge may well yell at everyone and tell them to just grow up.

I have printed out more than 25 emails stating - i am open to suggestions here. I have stated lets come up with a safe and effective plan together. He either says NOPE , bring him here , or brings up another topic , or just ignores me.

Then bring him to his place, and bring a friend with a video camera. Perhaps get an addition to the court order that says that the new wife cannot speak to you during these exchanges or some such thing.

Thank you all for your responses. And maybe I will bring a video camera tomorrow MAybe i will win "America's funniest home video " and then i can afford to hire a lawyer!

A video camera is one of the best ways to make sure people mind their manners.

- Carl

 

[JD4100]

Ronin, i have re read your reply. And i think i understand. Correct me if i am wrong.

Got it on the "wording" of holidays visitation. It would default to the last arrangement. This makes sense. I will abide to that rule of thumb in the future.
thank you.

As far as my self being "in contempt of the order" - i have record from the past 4 days leading up to last night in over 24 emails - hey lets come up with a safe place and time for the exchange. If that does not appeal to a Judge then so be it. I know i tried. I am not a criminal. I tried to find a solution for 4 days. But i get what your saying - just because i dont like it - does not make it legal for me to change things. With out a court ordered change - i must follow what has been previously agreed to. Understood.

The incident that happened 4 days ago at his residence did not do physical harm to myself our my child. Basically his step mother was screaming negative comments about me and my parenting to me and my son who was getting in my vehicle. NOW - in our court order it STATES: NO PARENT CAN SAY DISBARRING COMMENTS ABOUT THE OTHER PARENT TO THE CHILD. So is that not in contempt of the current court order?

Thank you all again in advance- I really appreciate this. And i am not looking to "get her". I really only bring this up if they say i was in contempt of the court order. Otherwise , i am not doing anything about this. I am just asking the question. Thank you.

 

[JD4100]

cdwjava - thank you for all your responses. I am writing down your suggestions.
I appreciate it.! And BTW - that old video camera is charging for future use!

 

[JD4100]

And i just recieved a email from his father saying " go to the police station and i will pick him up there".
So we are on our way now. WOW.

Am i wrong that family law is a lot of he said/ she said? Ok gotta go.

 

[waitinMd]

Disparaging - just fyi...

And it says either parent... not step-parent.. so you may to go back to court to get a modification to the order that gives a designated place for drop off, and no third party interference.

 

[CdwJava]

And i just recieved a email from his father saying " go to the police station and i will pick him up there".
So we are on our way now. WOW.

Am i wrong that family law is a lot of he said/ she said? Ok gotta go.

Family law matters are very frustrating for a host of reasons.

Hopefully the two of you can get along better int he future.

- Carl

 

[JD4100]

WaitinMD - thank you thank you for correcting me. Disparaging. not Disbarring. Geez now not only do i look like a idiot , but i am sounding like one too! I really want to use the right terminology so pls anyone correct me as you wish!

Carl- it is very frustrating - but you know after this incident 4 days ago - it really knocked me on my head. I mean i am a proud American citizen - i do believe in our judicial system and so i must learn it and try to make it work for me. As frustrating as it is - my son is in my best interest and he being emotionally well is my priority. So i will continue trying to work with his father in a calm and productive manner.

BTW- the drop went perfectly fine. Took all but like 4 mins.

I am going to collect my thoughts - maybe go for a run - and i will be back to post a new thread regarding attorney questions. Again , i cannot thank this forum enough for helping me keep level headed these past few days and pointing out the law. Thank you.