Pre employment / not eligible for rehire

[Zigner]

Never said it was illegal to not hire. Me i know that dont have to that doesnt mean they didnt discriminate against or use unfair hiring practices against. So yes i know i dont to hire me.

You were asking over and over about how to show that it was illegal.

 

[sir812006]

You were asking over and over about how to show that it was illegal.

Im trying to figure out if the way they went about things was illegal. What happen to seem really fishy and empolyees doing some shady things behind the scenes.

 

[Zigner]

Never said it was illegal to not hire. Me i know that dont have to that doesnt mean they didnt discriminate against or use unfair hiring practices against. So yes i know i dont to hire me.

Im trying to figure out if the way they went about things was illegal. What happen to seem really fishy and empolyees doing some shady things behind the scenes.

In one breath you say one thing, then in the next, you say another.

If it was legal to not hire you, then that means the way they went about it was legal. If they chose not to hire you based on illegal discrimination, then it would have been illegal, but that's not the case here.

We're done here. Really.

 

[cbg]

Never said it was illegal to not hire. Me i know that dont have to that doesnt mean they didnt discriminate against or use unfair hiring practices against. So yes i know i dont to hire me.

There was NO illegal discrimination as defined by law.

This was NOT an unfair hiring practice as defined by law.

I do not know how many other ways I can tell you that YOU. HAVE. NO. LEGAL. RECOURSE.

 

[sir812006]

There was NO illegal discrimination as defined by law.

This was NOT an unfair hiring practice as defined by law.

I do not know how many other ways I can tell you that YOU. HAVE. NO. LEGAL. RECOURSE.

Thank you for investigating my case.

 

[sir812006]

There was NO illegal discrimination as defined by law.

This was NOT an unfair hiring practice as defined by law.

I do not know how many other ways I can tell you that YOU. HAVE. NO. LEGAL. RECOURSE.

Yes that didn't balantly say we not hiring you because you're a Christian. Today case are uncover discrimination and during investigation. I found one law they breaking Arizona. On when ask for criminal record you must include statement that conviction will not be an absolute bar to employment. Which they do not have this statment. So the company is not perfect.

 

[cbg]

No one said they were perfect. But refusing to hire you because, in their view, you lied on your initial application is 100% legal no matter how you slice it.

 

[CTU]

Yes that didn't balantly say we not hiring you because you're a Christian. Today case are uncover discrimination and during investigation. I found one law they breaking Arizona. On when ask for criminal record you must include statement that conviction will not be an absolute bar to employment. Which they do not have this statment. So the company is not perfect.

Please go away now.

Thanks ever so much.

(free advice: Try to use correct spelling and grammar. Not doing so makes you look ... well, not exactly the best candidate out of the bunch)

 

[sir812006]

No one said they were perfect. But refusing to hire you because, in their view, you lied on your initial application is 100% legal no matter how you slice it.

Never said it was illegal to not hire me because it look like i lied. I very aware of that that dont have to hire me. Also i dont care about any grammer right now smh.

 

[cbg]

I'm going to hate myself for asking this.

So if you agree that nothing illegal transpired and that they are not required to hire you, just exactly what have you been arguing for four pages now?

 

[sir812006]

I'm going to hate myself for asking this.

So if you agree that nothing illegal transpired and that they are not required to hire you, just exactly what have you been arguing for four pages now?

I don't know if anything illegal transpired. Yes it is not illegal not hire a person outside of protected class. If there a internal company policy stating if you fail to disclose then you're not eligible for rehire. So you have a internal policy that you want give me unless i sign this offer letter. How im going to be bound to company policy that you wont let me see unless im an employee but in order to become an employee you have to sign an offer letter making you an empolyee. That dont make sense. There something fishy going i believe it with my criminal record and race. Alot of what they dont me dont even add up. So is what they did illegal i dont know yet and i dont know what all they. If an investigation is launch i bet there is some illegal things they did.

 

[PayrollHRGuy]

First it was your criminal history, then your religion (Christian), now your undisclosed race.

Obviously you aren't going to give us enough information to be of any help to you and likely wouldn't accept what anyone told you when trying to help. If you feel you have been illegally discriminated against file a claim with the EEOC. Here's a link.

https://www.eeoc.gov/employees/howtofile.cfm

 

[cbg]

Tell you what.

Since you don't believe anything I'm telling you, how about you call three lawyers of your choice, tell them exactly what you told us, and see what they tell you.

But I warn you, if you plan to come back and tell us that any of those lawyers have told you that you have any legal recourse other than to suck it up, be prepared to provide us with names and contact information that can be independently verified. Because if you don't, I'll call you a liar. Yes, I'm that sure that you have no case.

 

[sir812006]

This where they went wrong

If i failure to disclose on my application in 2016 then they knew that from jump. Why would you need to get a disposition if you already knew it came up in my background. Once you seen that i did not disclose my charge then there was no need to see the disposition. if your company wide policy state if you are release for non disclosure then you are not eligible for rehire. You cant have a company policy that significant disadvantages title VII protected individual which includes my race. By them asking for my disposition after knowing it was not disclose open the door for discrimination because they should have stop and rescinded the offer soon as they seen the charge pop up but they rescinded the offer after reviewing my disposition. So they went further to want to look in my background. There was no point to get the disposition if your policy says bar people from being hired if they dont disclose. They look at my charge and then deem not eligible for rehire. So yes there policy and how they went about things is in question. There employee gave me to much info that raises alot of questions.

 

[Zigner]

If i failure to disclose on my application in 2016 then they knew that from jump. Why would you need to get a disposition if you already knew it came up in my background. Once you seen that i did not disclose my charge then there was no need to see the disposition. if your company wide policy state if you are release for non disclosure then you are not eligible for rehire. You cant have a company policy that significant disadvantages title VII protected individual which includes my race. By them asking for my disposition after knowing it was not disclose open the door for discrimination because they should have stop and rescinded the offer soon as they seen the charge pop up but they rescinded the offer after reviewing my disposition. So they went further to want to look in my background. There was no point to get the disposition if your policy says bar people from being hired if they dont disclose. They look at my charge and then deem not eligible for rehire. So yes there policy and how they went about things is in question. There employee gave me to much info that raises alot of questions.

Awesome! Grab an attorney and sue the pants off them! You only fail at what you do not try.