Protective Order Still in Effect or WTF?

[Skyymiles]

What is the name of your state? Florida

In Okaloosa County Florida, what happens to me logistically speaking, if I have been served with a Repeat Violence Injunction without a "end date", or indefinite evaluation, from a Parent on behalf of a minor turning 18 next year. It says when the Psychiatrist says "she's ok" then the injunction is no more??? How do I know if now even 2 years later this is even still in effect? And would it automatically go away when she turns 18? Thanx.

 

[moburkes]

It is still in effect.

 

[Skyymiles]

Is there a FL Statue that protects her still after reaching the age of 18 or would I ever at all be notified realistically if the status of this orde was to change, I mean do i get any heads up if her parents were going to change their mind theoretically speaking?

 

[moburkes]

What heads up? Why are you trying to date someone whose parents' rules you don't appear to respect?

 

[CdwJava]

I suppose you can call the courthouse every week to find out if it is ever lifted.

However, the safest route would be to just cut your losses and leave the girl alone and move on.

- Carl

 

[CdwJava]

According to a Google search of various FL legal sites, it appears that an order without an expiration date will remain in effect until such time that a court modifies or removes the injunction. So, apparently, until a judge signs off on the girl's mental state being okay, you'd better keep your distance or risk jail.

- Carl

 

[Skyymiles]

I dunno I guess, originally I suspect some sort of internal abuse from a parental figure in the family. The minor of whom the mother filed for the original temporary injunction has a cutting issuse, as soon as I turned 18 the parents targeted me and requested one. I went to court and the Permanent Injunction was issued. Between me and her we never wanted that. But I know that has no bearing in the Judge's eyes while she is a minor. We didn't shop, hang out, go to the beach, movies, together EVER. We simply attended the same Church services and local School. Ironically the ONLY 2 places that the injunction could not have any jurisdiction as far as forceing somebody to swith places of worship or education. I'm essentially saying I think the whole thing was bogus. We really enjoyed each other's company and I believe that her parents were jealous of the relationship I had with their daughter. I had no history of ANY disciplinary action in my enitre school record. Nothing, and now this on my record, for how long , and if its even reversable who knows, it's slightly frustrating...

UPDATE1: APPARENTLY she still thinks she can talk to me I have around 145 saved txt messages on my cell phone from MSN Mobile messenger, but I'm afraid the court will try to turn the tables back on me.

 

[moburkes]

And, you've better NOT respond to ANY of those messages. NOT EVEN TO SAY THAT YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO TALK TO HER. Unless, of course, you want WORSE stuff on your record.

 

[Gracie3787]

I agree with the others in that the injunction is still valid.

However, since the parents filed on behalf of a minor it might be possible for the now adult to file to request the injunction to be removed. I've never run across a situation like yours, but it does make sense that when she became an adult, it would be the girl's choice on what to do about seeing you and the injunction.

You will get a better idea of what can be done by getting a consult with an attorney. You can get a 30 minute consult for $25 by calling the Florida Bar Attorney Referall Service at 1-800-342-8011.

In the mean time, stay away from the girl, don't even answer her messages.

 

[Skyymiles]

In all seriousness, and I respect any experienced answers here, is a txt message or messages for the sake of argument, from both a MSN Messenger account and a cell phone number(which through investigation) could be proven registered in her name, be enough evidence to convict her of breaching her own protective order, or is that even worth asking? Thanx.

 

[Gracie3787]

In all seriousness, and I respect any experienced answers here, is a txt message or messages for the sake of argument, from both a MSN Messenger account and a cell phone number(which through investigation) could be proven registered in her name, be enough evidence to convict her of breaching her own protective order, or is that even worth asking? Thanx.

At the least, it might be good evidence to use in having the injunction removed. Yours is an unusual situation, that you really should consult with an attorney about it.

 

[Skyymiles]

UPDATE # 2 Potential Recovery in the works?

Ok so.... I have been made aware on several occasions that the original person on who's behalf this order was filed for now wants to remove it. My question is: How hard will it be? I've skimmed over other posts asking the similar question, to which several people have replied that the courts/judges dont like to go back and fourth and could potentially end up just issuing a "no contact" order? There has never been a change/extention to the original RO, I'm just curious to know what kind of resistance she's up against if she checks on this with the cleark of courts... this is Florida again BTW..
thanx in advance, everyone has been very helpful.

i think this could happen as soon as tomorrow.

will i have a court date where I need to be present to have it completely annuled (sp.)? or removed, and or will she be court ordered to seek like "removal advice" before going through with it. She claims that she trust's her psychiatrist to allow her to remove it if it's what she so desires, I guess I'm just concerned the 'psy' may have to be the one to sign off on it according to what the original text read about the 'psy' making the determination of when it became 'ok' if you will for us to make contact again.

 

[tranquility]

Why do you think the order applies to her?

 

[LdiJ]

Ok so.... I have been made aware on several occasions that the original person on who's behalf this order was filed for now wants to remove it. My question is: How hard will it be? I've skimmed over other posts asking the similar question, to which several people have replied that the courts/judges dont like to go back and fourth and could potentially end up just issuing a "no contact" order? There has never been a change/extention to the original RO, I'm just curious to know what kind of resistance she's up against if she checks on this with the cleark of courts... this is Florida again BTW..
thanx in advance, everyone has been very helpful.

i think this could happen as soon as tomorrow.

will i have a court date where I need to be present to have it completely annuled (sp.)? or removed, and or will she be court ordered to seek like "removal advice" before going through with it. She claims that she trust's her psychiatrist to allow her to remove it if it's what she so desires, I guess I'm just concerned the 'psy' may have to be the one to sign off on it according to what the original text read about the 'psy' making the determination of when it became 'ok' if you will for us to make contact again.

How do you know that she wants the order lifted unless you have been having some sort of contact with her? Why haven't you moved on after 2 years?

 

[Skyymiles]

Why do you think the order applies to her?

bc i called the cleark of courts in the county is was issued in and asked if it was still legit/ or in order, and they couldnt be sure bc of the odd wording, but they suspected it would be is what they told me. just sounded kinda fishy...