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gettup

Junior Member
If your disability was so severe, then you should have had an attorney represent you in court. If you were qualified as low-income and disabled, that probably could have gotten you a legal aid attorney in most situations.

Otherwise, if you proceeded, knowing that you were unable to properly represent your case, then the court did what it was required to in your situation.

There is still nothing that you have said that distinctly qualifies as failure to accommodate your disability for the purpose of this eviction. But if you insist there is, then you could contact legal aid now, or the ACLU or ADA, and see if someone there is willing to take your case on appeal and fight the battle for you. (I'm thinking they probably won't.)

Appeal? how so? I filed a timely appeal, which was arbitrarily dismissed for no reason whatsoever. I filed the appeal, posted the supersedes bond and was awaiting the transcripts from the hearing so that I could file them with the Superior Court along with my brief but the Justice Court didn't produce the transcript and instead dismissed my appeal at the same time they lifted the stay for the writ of execution. Even though the Arizona Rules for procedure of eviction (specifically, Rule 17b (2) states that failure to comply with conditions set by the court while remaining in possession pending an appeal shall NOT be cause for the dismissal of the appeal:

(2) Rent Pending Appeal. If the appellant wants to remain in possession of the premises while the appeal is pending, the appellant must pay to the clerk of the court any rent due and continue paying to the clerk additional rent as it becomes due during the appeal. Failure of the appellant to pay any rent due as it accrues is cause for the appellee to seek an order allowing it to enforce a writ of restitution, but shall not be cause for the dismissal of the appeal. In this event, the appeal will proceed despite the appellant's loss of possession of the premises while it is pending.
(Supreme Court No. R-07-0023 Page 17)

How is it then, that my appeal was dismissed at the same time the stay was lifted?


So what was your reason for asking me if the rental due date stipulated in the lease was actually ON the third, or was it on the first and considered late by the third? does that really make a difference if I don't have a case?

And what's the point of writing a statute that says the rent is to be paid to the court in accordance with the rental agreement if the court is gonna have you pay it when THEY want you to pay it regardless of what any statute says? And why is there no repercussions when these statutes aren't followed? The statutes set out all these rules that should be followed but don't stipulate any consequences when they're not. YET, it CLEARLY stipulates in these same statutes, consequences for the tenant when THEY don't adhere to rules set forth in the statutes.

Here's an example:

12-1178 A defendant who is lawfully served with a writ of restitution and who remains in or returns to the dwelling unit, as defined in section 33-1310, without the express permission of the owner of the property commits criminal trespass in the third degree pursuant to section 13-1502.

It clearly defines the consequences and under what section the tenant will be charged and what they will be charged with.

But what about a tenant who was UNLAWFULLY served with a writ of restitution, i.e, a vacated judgement for writ of restitution? why are there no consequences defined and no specific charge spelled out under any specific code?

then 12-1178 C. states:

C. No writ of restitution shall issue until the expiration of five calendar days after the rendition of judgment.

So what happens if ANY writ of restitution IS issued before the expiration of five calendar days after the rendition of judgment?

Why are there no penalties or repercussions if these rules ARE violated?

I realize this is not relevant to a disability discrimination, I'm just seeking your expert opinion as to why this is, if you could answer that for me I would greatly appreciate it.

If you say that's why one would appeal, well, my appeal was arbitrarily dismissed for absolutely no reason, so is there no recourse for these unlawful actions other than the appeal process?

BTW... I am not trying to get possession back. This all took place last year in October 2011. The appeal was dismissed when the stay was lifted and I know of no other recourse other than the appeals process so that was the end of the road for me.

I have 180 days to file a complaint with the Department of Justice for discrimination under Title II, which leaves me with about 30 days, but you guys are saying I have no case for discrimination, so I guess I just have to accept that there is nothing I can do.
 


gettup

Junior Member
If your disability was so severe, then you should have had an attorney represent you in court. If you were qualified as low-income and disabled, that probably could have gotten you a legal aid attorney in most situations.

I DID apply for legal aid. I didn't hear back from them so I proceeded without them. It wasn't until the vacated writ was served unlawfully that I actually drove down to the Legal Aid office after I filed the motion asking to allow me to post the supersedes bond since I was denied that option when the illegal writ was served. They told me my case had been assigned to an atty, but that he hadn't contacted me yet because of his full caseload, but they went and told him about the vacated writ being served and he told them to send me back. It was during THIS visit that I got the phone call from the court at 3:45pm telling me my motion to post the supersedes bond had been granted, but that I needed to post it by 5pm or lose the right to regain possession.

After hanging up with them, the legal aid attorney is the one who told me to ask for reasonable accommodations, I had never heard of such a thing until he advised me I was entitled to them because there was no way I could be expected to go get the bond money from the bank and drive all the way from Phoenix to Chandler under that kind of pressure considering my mental disability. I called the court back and asked for the reasonable accommodation and they denied it. The Legal aid attorney told me to call back and INSIST they accommodate me and to tell them I am at the legal aid office and the atty there is advising that they grant it, so they did.

When the whole thing with paying the rent by 5pm on the first went down, I called the Legal Aid Atty and he said he was too busy to help me and that he wasn't planning on calling me for an appointment for another week, but obviously I needed legal advisement now, and he walked me through the appeals process and said he would be available to give me legal advice but as far as going to court right now he had other cases that were consuming his time. He told me a Special Action needed to be filed in Superior Court but that it could only be done by an attorney, because it required a lot of research of caselaw and he just didn't have the time to do it. He told me I needed to file a complaint for Judiciary complaint for disciplinary action against the judge/clerk/court and a discrimination complaint with the attorney general's office, which I was getting ready to do when I was pulled over and taken to jail for driving on a suspended license, which I paid the fine for but didn't realize I needed to take an abstract to the DMV for reinstatement, I thought it was automatically reinstated when I paid the fine.
This violated my probation, which I am on for the case with the man who stalked me and I was in jail for 47 days. I called legal aid when I got out and made an appointment with the attorney to see if he has the time to help me file those two things now, but it isn't for another week, and in the meantime, I was came across the Title II act of the ADA and thought I clearly had a case under that act, but apparently not.

Otherwise, if you proceeded, knowing that you were unable to properly represent your case, then the court did what it was required to in your situation.

I proceeded because I had no choice. I didn't proceed KNOWING that I was unable to represent myself, when I didn't hear back from legal aid I thought I was able to at least attempt to represent myself, but I don't think anybody who represents themselves pro per is PROPERLY representing themselves. But I also didn't expect the court to violate my rights and to, what I feel was, discriminate against me. I didn't deserve the treatment I received from the court during this process, so I don't understand what you mean by "the court did what it was REQUIRED to do in my situation." what is it exactly that they were REQUIRED to do? serve me with a vacated writ? ignore the statutes that state I am to pay my rent to them as per the rental agreement? which was on the third? and demand that I pay it on the first? knowing that I could not? were they required to allow the landlord to file a motion telephonically to lift the stay? even though that is not allowed? but not let me pay my rent telephonically? even though IT was not allowed either? was the judge required to not let me speak at my hearing? but allow my landlord to, & at great lengths on the very topic that she forbade me to speak on after I disclosed my speech disorder in open court? were they required to arbitrarily dismiss my appeal when I didn't pay the rent on the first? despite the fact that I didn't have to pay it til the third? and despite the statutes saying that failure to pay the rent to the court is not grounds for the appeal to be dismissed? and that the appeal will proceed despite the failure to pay rent? I'm not sure what you mean by "the court did what it was required to do." Please enlighten me. I don't think they were required to do anything that they did, not legally anyway, but I'm not a lawyer so I could be wrong.

see if someone there is willing to take your case on appeal and fight the battle for you. (I'm thinking they probably won't.)

So can I file another appeal, despite the fact that mine was dismissed?

Can you PLEASE tell me how the Justice Court had the right to dismiss it, when it was on appeal for a reason? for them not doing their job, so wasn't it out of their hands once I appealed it? and for the Superior Court to decide? When a complaint is filed against a company or a person, does the company or that person conduct the investigation against themselves? that's like having the fox watch the hen. I filed the appeal because I felt the Justice Court didn't conduct the proceedings lawfully, so who are they to dismiss it? and for no reason at that?

With all due respect, please don't think I am patronizing you, that is not my intention. I am merely trying to understand how this could have happened and why there is absolutely no recourse for me in this matter. I certainly appreciate your expert opinion and I do respect it, I am just challenging some of the things you are saying because they don't make sense to me, and for that reason, I am asking you to clarify, so that I may better understand and better able to examine my options, if any. which doesn't seem to be the case.

Thank you again, I truly appreciate your time.
 

gettup

Junior Member
So what is it you actually wish to accomplish?

I want to be compensated for damages. They never returned my supersedes bond after deducting whatever it is that they deduct. I only regained possession for 10 days and the bond was for 3 months rent. I was homeless because of their unlawful actions, which caused me to live in my car because I have no family here, and not many friends because of my disorder, certainly none I could stay with. I got a hotel for the days I could afford, but it's costly and when I ran out of money, I had no choice but to sleep in my car. I eventually was stopped and it was discovered that my license had not been reinstated after paying a fine. That is my fault, I was unaware that I needed to take an abstract from the court to the DMV in order to get it reinstated, but nevertheless, I was in my car and had I not been forced out of my home I would've never been in my car at that hour of the night, hence, I wouldn'tve went to jail.

Yeah, I could've gotten pulled over anytime, but even police officers say they are less likely to pull someone over for a violation during the day than they would at night. The officer told me if he saw someone not using their blinker to make a turn during the day, he probably is not as likely to pull them over than if he saw them do it at night. I was exposed to a much greater risk of being pulled over than I would have been had I not been forced out onto the streets without notice. I was given 15 minutes to get out when they served the vacated writ, and when they lifted the stay after I regained possession, I still was only given a matter of hours to get out, how can someone find a place to go on that short of notice?

Being locked up for 47 days just for driving on a suspended license is a little extreme. Considering I'm not the one who got the tickets that suspended my license and the judge conducted and identity hearing and did a handwriting analysis and determined it was not me who got the tickets, someone had used my name and info when they got pulled over or possibly my actual license when my purse was stolen. Those tickets were dismissed and I paid for one of them before I realized someone had used my info and I didn't know I had to go down to the DMV with the abstract from the court and give it to them, nobody instructed me to do that and I don't work for the courts OR the DMV so how would I have known? so yeah, my license remained suspended even after the judge dismissed those tickets.

I take responsibility, but I hardly ever drove, in fact, I never drove after developing PTSD, I was too fearful, so the chances of me getting pulled over were slim to none, My boyfriend always drove anytime we went anywhere but he was in an accident right before this eviction took place and passed away.

My storage payment became due 1 week after I went to jail but I wasn't able to pay it and had nobody I could call collect to go pay it for me. My disability check posted to my account shortly after I went to jail so I had money, but had no access to it while in jail and 30 days later they sent a notice of intent to auction off my stuff and 10 days after getting no response to letter of intent, they auctioned it off, which was the same day I was released. Ya, such luck.

I want to be compensated damages, nothing more, nothing less than what I lost caused by this tyranny of a court, they were just brutal in their treatment of this entire case from beginning to end. Please go back and read my original post in it's entirety, I know it's long, but it will explain a lot. Maybe you will all see things from my point of view once you read it. I did nothing to deserve this. I could see if I was some low life who didn't pay their rent or was behind on their rent, but I wasn't. The landlord did this to get me out because he wanted to short sale to avoid foreclosure. I understand his position, but Jesus Christ, did he have to carry it out this way? giving me absolutely no notice or time for that matter to find another place?

I would've looked for another place and moved if he allowed me that option, even though I had a years lease and still 9 months to go on it, but I could've been out in a couple of months to help him avoid foreclosure but instead he had me kicked out on the street knowing my boyfriend just passed away and knowing I have a disability, he didn't care. He was just looking out to cover his own ass, and THAT shouldn'tve came at the expense of his tenant who did nothing to deserve this.
 

gettup

Junior Member
Wow REALLY?

Do you REALLY not have anything to say in regards to my last post?

WHAT was it that you felt the courts were REQUIRED to do?

Please take my last post into consideration when answering that question please.

Thank you
 

Zigner

Senior Member, Non-Attorney
Your last question was asked in February of 2012. If you haven't done anything to date, you're not going to do anything. I would suggest that you seek the assistance of an attorney. Good luck.
 
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TheGeekess

Keeper of the Kraken
Do you REALLY not have anything to say in regards to my last post?

WHAT was it that you felt the courts were REQUIRED to do?

Please take my last post into consideration when answering that question please.

Thank you

Alrighty then. :cool:
 

quincy

Senior Member
Do you REALLY not have anything to say in regards to my last post?

WHAT was it that you felt the courts were REQUIRED to do?

Please take my last post into consideration when answering that question please.

Thank you

I'm sorry, gettup. I would respond but I started reading your posts on 2-27-2012 and am not quite finished yet. Why don't you give us another year?
 
Do you REALLY not have anything to say in regards to my last post?

WHAT was it that you felt the courts were REQUIRED to do?

Please take my last post into consideration when answering that question please.

Thank you


Any reason why you're still piping on about this?
 

OHRoadwarrior

Senior Member
After things did not go your way in the courts decisions, you started screaming ADA...Disabled Person.... ADA.... The judge knew you had already lost the case, were making ridiculous requests that were an undue burden on landlord and the court and decided not to play your games. The court fully and fairly attempted to act within the confines of the law, faithfully discharging their duties. They are exempt from liability. If you actually have money coming back from the court, obtain the disbursement record and file a motion with the court for a refund.
 

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