Regarding recorded conversations

[stepmom04]

Shall not be unlawful... UNLESS... purpose of committing any criminal or tortious act

A tortuous act: Would be going to court over a breach of contract for which relief may be obtained in the form of damages or an injunction.

As in trying to use the recording as evidence for contempt charges. It means that recording someone to use it against them in court is illegal.

Sure, you knew what MOST of the words meant. I can see why you’d be confused. But why are you arguing when you haven’t taken the time to pull out the big fat dictionary?

Real legal question here...if you can prove by a recorded conversation that the other party is lying and untruthful in their statements...it's a crime?

Would land line communciations be included in this? And how could either be proved?

 

[Just Blue]

Real legal question here...if you can prove by a recorded conversation that the other party is lying and untruthful in their statements...it's a crime?

Would land line communciations be included in this? And how could either be proved?

YES!! IT IS A CRIME!

Phone records.

 

[stepmom04]

YES!! IT IS A CRIME!

Phone records... dummy!

There lying and perging themselves in a court of law is also a crime.

My conversations were always on landlines..both ways. I can not get phone records for my landline. I've tried.

 

[Bloopy]

YES!! IT IS A CRIME!

Phone records... dummy!

Crime? Actually, it gets messy again.

OP was in trouble because what she thought was covered by "one-party" state rules got fuzzy with crossing state lines and the possibility of a cell phone and federal law.

To answer Stepmom04's hijacking question, we'd need to know the state (sigular) involved and confirm both phones were landlines.

Otherwise I agree with you completely

 

[jbowman]

YES!! IT IS A CRIME!

Phone records... dummy!

Ok, before this gets completely out of hand.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with someone asking for clarification. There is nothing wrong with someone asking questions. I have had to ask a question 42 different times to finally understand the answer. And this answer, quite frankly is very confusing. I still really dont understand how a recorded phone calll can be used in court but also considered a crime.

Stepmom04, please take heed the advice given to you by Humus. Ask questions, fine, but not advice--for quite a while.

 

[bononos again]

There lying and perging themselves in a court of law is also a crime.

I am not an idiot. My conversations were always on landlines..both ways. I can not get phone records for my landline. I've tried.

Ever heard the saying, "Two wrongs don't make a right"?

 

[stepmom04]

Crime? Actually, it gets messy again.

OP was in trouble because what she thought was covered by "one-party" state rules got fuzzy with crossing state lines and the possibility of a cell phone and federal law.

To answer Stepmom04's hijacking question, we'd need to know the state (sigular) involved and confirm both phones were landlines.

Otherwise I agree with you completely

AR...and both landlines.

 

[Bloopy]

AR...and both landlines.

You missed the hint to start your own thread.

 

[stepmom04]

Ok, before this gets completely out of hand.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with someone asking for clarification. There is nothing wrong with someone asking questions. I have had to ask a question 42 different times to finally understand the answer. And this answer, quite frankly is very confusing. I still really dont understand how a recorded phone calll can be used in court but also considered a crime.

Stepmom04, please take heed the advice given to you by Humus. Ask questions, fine, but not advice--for quite a while.

Point well taken. I will not give advice. But I really think she need clarification. I can only post my experience..not advice..experience.

Thank you Bloopy for the clarification why hers was considered to be messy.

 

[Silverplum]

There lying and perging themselves in a court of law is also a crime.

I am not an idiot. My conversations were always on landlines..both ways. I can not get phone records for my landline. I've tried.

I perform yet another favor for you: "perjuring." From the word "perjury."

 

[stepmom04]

You missed the hint to start your own thread.

I did start this thread

 

[jbowman]

You missed the hint to start your own thread.

This IS her thread, Bloop. LOL

 

[Bloopy]

I did start this thread

This IS her thread, Bloop. LOL

Slapping forehead.... I thought we were still in Brandi’s thread… What day is it?

Anyway,

Yes. AR is a one-party state. You may record the landline conversations that YOU are a party to and TRY to use it in court.

Most judges still hate it and shy away, but at least it isn’t illegal.

Getting a legal transcription of the conversation -$$$- is a more realistic way of getting the legally recorded conversation into court.

You may NOT record your children’s conversations with the other parent.

 

[Bloopy]

My conversations were always on landlines..both ways. I can not get phone records for my landline. I've tried.

If you cannot get phone records, how will you prove that both phones were landlines?

Messy again.

 

[Just Blue]

AR...and both landlines.

The OP in the other thread said that she couldn't be sure if her ex was on a land-line. Plus recording a conversation and recording a conversation for COURT are two different things. A judge may get pissed that the OP was recording and not allow the evidence in court. How is the OP going to prove that the recording wasn't tampered with? How is she going to prove that it is ACTUALLY her ex's voice? Recording people without their consent is just problematic for so many different reasons. And when your reson for doing it are as nitpicky as OP's reasons I forsee her being slapped down hard.