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KimInNY

Member
What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? NY

Ok, I asked this in the employment portion, but it applies here.

If I leave my job, to insure my safe and total get away from a well documented abusive relationship, can I claim unemployment ins? Do I have to leave for a shelter, or can I just try to get away on my own?
 


ErinGoBragh

Senior Member
From http://www.nelp.org/docUploads/pub135.pdf.


Page 1
May 2002
UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE FOR SURVIVORS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
Expanding Unemployment Insurance for Women,
Low-Wage & Part-Time Workers
By National Employment Law Project
Many victims and survivors of domestic violence, sexual assault, and stalking must
leave work in order to protect themselves, their families, and their coworkers. A
growing group of local and national advocates has encouraged making victims
eligible for unemployment insurance (UI) benefits when they are forced to leave
their jobs because of their fear for their safety and that of their families. These
initiatives are part of a larger effort in states across the country to reform the
unemployment insurance system to better meet the changing needs of today’s
workers.
Some facts about domestic violence, sexual assault, stalking, and
employment: One out of every four American women suffers physical abuse by
an intimate partner at some point in her life. Ninety six percent of employed
domestic violence (DV) victims in one survey stated that the domestic violence in
their lives interfered with her ability to work. A woman may be harassed by
threatening phone calls at work or may need to miss days of work because of
injuries or attempts to seek legal remedies for the abuse. In the worst cases, a
victim may be attacked by the perpetrator at work.
Rape, sexual assault, and stalking are aspects of domestic violence that may
prevent a victim from maintaining employment. A perpetrator may stalk a victim at
her workplace because it may be the only place he knows to find her. Stalking
may include up to 20 phone calls a day, waiting outside her workplace in his car, or
coming into the workplace and verbally or physically assaulting her. These
experiences may also cause a victim to be forced to leave her employment to seek
safety.
A survey of survivors of domestic violence found that abusive husbands and
partners harassed 74% of employed battered women at work. Domestic violence
caused 56% of them to be late for work at least five times a month, 28% to leave
early at least five days a month, and 54% to miss at least three full days of work a
month. One-quarter of battered women say they had to quit work at least partly
due to domestic violence. One-half of women who survive sexual assaults say
they had to quit work due to the assault.
Unemployment Insurance for Survivors of Domestic Violence
Page 2
Unemployment Insurance for Survivors of Domestic Violence, p. 2
What are the hurdles that survivors of violence face when they must leave work and apply for
unemployment insurance? Workers are generally not able to qualify for unemployment insurance when
they leave work “voluntarily,” unless they have “good cause” related to work. In many states, personal
reasons cannot constitute “good cause” for leaving a job, so survivors of domestic violence and assault
who must leave work to flee violence or protect themselves from violence and stalking may not qualify for
unemployment insurance.
Even where domestic violence is “good cause” to leave work, women may not qualify for unemployment
compensation benefits because they are not “able and available” to work as required by state
unemployment laws; that is, they are moving, caring for small children, healing from injuries, residing in a
safe house, in medical facilities or treatment, and unable to engage in an intensive search for work. In still
others, survivors may need to refuse an offer of work because it interferes with achieving safety.
Which states permit survivors of domestic violence to quit work and receive unemployment
insurance? Eighteen states have passed new laws that explicitly allow survivors of domestic violence to
leave their jobs due to the violence. These are California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Maine,
Massachusetts, Minnesota, Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina,
Oregon, Rhode Island, Washington, Wisconsin and Wyoming. In the 2001 and 2002 legislative sessions,
bills have been introduced in Arizona, Georgia, Hawaii, Iowa, Maryland, New Mexico, North Dakota,
Tennessee, Vermont, and West Virginia.
In three additional states, domestic violence is not a specific reason to justify leaving a job, but court
decisions, rules, or agency policies allow DV survivors to receive unemployment insurance. These are
Arkansas, Florida, and Pennsylvania. States that do not explicitly protect domestic violence survivors, but
do permit personal reasons as valid reasons to leave work include Alaska, Arizona, Hawaii, Nevada, Ohio,
South Carolina, Utah, and Virginia. In these states, court rulings or administrative policy changes could
allow DV survivors to receive unemployment insurance. Even in those remaining states that still require
some fault on the part of the employer for a worker to qualify for unemployment benefits, there is a strong
case to be made that benefits should not be denied when the employer has failed to adopt adequate
policies that address domestic violence and the workplace.
No state explicitly allows victims of sexual assault to receive benefits, though some states' definitions of
“domestic violence” may be construed to include sexual assault and/or stalking.
What if the “work search” requirement interferes with a woman’s ability to protect herself? In some
states, women may initially qualify for unemployment, but later not be considered eligible because they are
not able to actively search for work. State laws often include burdensome work search requirements that
may interfere with a survivor’s ability to get medical or legal help or find a safe place to live.
Two states, Massachusetts and Washington, have enacted legislation that helps a woman continue to
receive compensation while she is seeking safety. In a letter to NELP in fall of 2000, the U.S. Department
of Labor agreed that states can, consistent with federal law, change to their laws to liberalize their work-
search requirements for survivors of domestic violence. Like Massachusetts and Washington, other states
can simply require survivors of domestic violence to register for work, without engaging in extensive work
search, and claimants may refuse job offers that interfere with their ability to get safe. In the 2002
legislative session, measures in Maryland and Hawaii offer similar protections.
 

ErinGoBragh

Senior Member
To summarize from the above, it seems that you CAN claim unemployment insurance in NY for leaving the job to due DV. It seems that you do not need to go to a shelter to get benefits, you merely need to be able to search for a job as required by unemployment. I would call your local unemployment office for further clarification of what the exact requirements are.

I wish you the best of luck.
 
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KimInNY

Member
Ok, Thank you for that i read it a few times.

, now what if i wanted to move out of state. What about is the diffrence between a victom and a survivor? Can past incidence give me enough good cause or does it have to be something that just happend, and what if the current abuse is more mental?emotional?financial then physical (there is a long past of sever physical too, just not recently ( 1 yr ago. )

Can I move out of state and collect unemployment, and when i get there could I get help from the state of ____?

I want to leave, I KNOW i have to leave the state and my job, and my family,
I dont want the DA , or ADA involved. I just want to run away and start from somewhere.

Then when I am in a new position in a new state, I can Have a life, and family.
 
To summarize from the above, it seems that you CAN claim unemployment insurance in NY for leaving the job to due DV. It seems that you do not need to go to a shelter to get benefits, you merely need to be able to search for a job as required by unemployment. I would call your local unemployment office for further clarification of what the exact requirements are.

I wish you the best of luck.

Nice job Eryn...
 

Just Blue

Senior Member
Kim...I am posting this here to make sure you see it. You do NOT know that law and are passing out crappy advice to other members. STOP posting on other threads. NOW! Your "interpretation" of Mass DV laws is absurd. DO NOT POST IN THIS FORUM. EVER. That you are STILL in your violent relationship disqualifies you from posting in a educated, sane and legally correct manner. Seek care from a mental health professional. PM me and I will provide a list of resources to help you...but stay the hell off this forum unless it is to address your OWN sick, violent relationship on your OWN thread.
 

mmmagique

Member
I understand how you feel bsg, but, is there not anything in tos about posting off-topic?
Or about how ill-advised someone's advice is, that they are still allowed to post?

I'm only asking this because I honestly don't know.
 

ErinGoBragh

Senior Member
I understand how you feel bsg, but, is there not anything in tos about posting off-topic?
Or about how ill-advised someone's advice is, that they are still allowed to post?

I'm only asking this because I honestly don't know.

It's not really off-topic IMO since you're seeing shades of this thread in Kim's other posts. Also, Kim has PMs disabled, so it's kind of the only way to tell her.

You CAN post on advice here if it's ill-advised or just flat out wrong, but you won't last long. I've seen seniors reference to members being banned for consistently posting advice that was very inaccurate, and OP's posts in other threads also seem to ride the edge of highjacking, since they tend to be based more around her stubbornness/unableness to interpret law properly and draw attention away from the main focus of other threads. Also, most of the time people who consistently post inaccurate advice will either
a) Get the clue and not post, just read, the forums for a while until they understand the laws better or
b) leave.

That's my 2 cents anyways.
 
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Just Blue

Senior Member
I understand how you feel bsg, but, is there not anything in tos about posting off-topic?
Or about how ill-advised someone's advice is, that they are still allowed to post?

I'm only asking this because I honestly don't know.

Posting wrong/illegal advice and arguing with other members who are trying to give an OP the legally correct answer is against the TOS. Continuously posting wrong/illegal advice will get you banned. Coming back and doing it some more will get you IP Banned. This site is the best of the advice sites because many of the members make sure that what is posted is relevant and correct. Admin backs us up by getting rid of idiots who irresponsibly post garbage.

Telling a member to not testify is so incredibly wrong ...it's a good way for a person to end up in jail for contempt! I am pissed that the OP would advise as she has...really pissed! The people in this forum have enough problems without ending up in jail because they stupidly listened to Kimmy.
 

ErinGoBragh

Senior Member
Posting wrong/illegal advice and arguing with other members who are trying to give an OP the legally correct answer is against the TOS. Continuously posting wrong/illegal advice will get you banned. Coming back and doing it some more will get you IP Banned. This site is the best of the advice sites because many of the members make sure that what is posted is relevant and correct. Admin backs us up by getting rid of idiots who irresponsibly post garbage.

Telling a member to not testify is so incredibly wrong ...it's a good way for a person to end up in jail for contempt! I am pissed that the OP would advise as she has...really pissed! The people in this forum have enough problems without ending up in jail because they stupidly listened to Kimmy.

Wow, I didn't see that post you're talking about.. that's beyond appalling.
 

Just Blue

Senior Member
Wow, I didn't see that post you're talking about.. that's beyond appalling.

She told a member to not "cooperate" with the prosecution and that the DA will drop charges...She is entrenched in her own violent relationship and should not advise anyone.
 

mmmagique

Member
Yeah, I saw all this after I asked these questions. I was very curious about the questions though, so I'm glad I asked!

I really was surprised at the things she told that other woman to do, and how she justified falsely accusing someone of something they didn't do, to get back at them for hurting the other person's feelings...
 

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